What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴

I kinda agree but on the other hand it wouldn't do any harm to have a PVE only option. I wouldn't be using it but I'm sure some younger families might. This game could be really appealing to the younger players if it had a PVE only option.

If there was to be a PvE mode I think it should have some vary restrictive consequences, such as no rankings or progression, and less gold. Or perhaps if you use PvE mode your progress is not carried over to PvP mode, and vice versa. I don't like PvP, but I think it more exciting to see another ship and wondering, with trepidation, whether they are going to say hi in a friendly way, or in a "you're going home in a wooden casket" way.

I used to play only Solo mode in Elite Dangerous but now exclusively play in Open, as again, the not knowing who you're meeting is a fun part.

I deliberately do not fill up my sloop with gold or treasure, so that I present myself as low a target as possible.

I'm not even saying I don't want PvP, but when i'm just starting the game it would be nice to be put into an isolated environment so I can learn HOW TO PLAY without getting blasted into oblivion in the process.

As I wrote in a thread I started myself, a new player needs a chance to learn the ropes before you start letting other people blow them up.

@myrm said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

If there was to be a PvE mode I think it should have some vary restrictive consequences, such as no rankings or progression, and less gold. Or perhaps if you use PvE mode your progress is not carried over to PvP mode, and vice versa. I don't like PvP, but I think it more exciting to see another ship and wondering, with trepidation, whether they are going to say hi in a friendly way, or in a "you're going home in a wooden casket" way.

I used to play only Solo mode in Elite Dangerous but now exclusively play in Open, as again, the not knowing who you're meeting is a fun part.

I deliberately do not fill up my sloop with gold or treasure, so that I present myself as low a target as possible.

Absolutely not. You dont' need to punish the player for not playing with PvP. Just make it completely seperate- seperate progression, seperate everything.
Shaming people for not choosing the most difficult difficulty or game mode is not the way to do things.

I'm also rather annoyed at the negative reactions from the pvp lovers. I mean, who doesn't like to grief new people who don't know what they're doing yet? rolls eyes

I'd like to point out that the description for the game on the Windows Store suggests to the buyer that the game is primarily a co-op experience, not necessairly a pvp-only experience. I did not know that it was 100% PvP only before buying.

@tahngarthor said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

Absolutely not. You dont' need to punish the player for not playing with PvP...

Yes, you have a good point there. :-)

@myrm said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

I deliberately do not fill up my sloop with gold or treasure, so that I present myself as low a target as possible.

This is one of the issues I have with the game. You may with to present yourself as a low target but how is anyone meant to know that? There's no indication to say "my hold is empty". You may wish to present yourself as a friendly non-threatening player but how is anyone meant to know that? Stand on the bow waving? Can they even see you doing that while they unload their cannons at you?

They've said this is meant to be a social game but because it's fast becoming a "shoot first, see if their corpse will be friendly" it's in danger of failing (not the whole game, just the social aspect).

@kungfustu72 said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

This is one of the issues I have with the game. You may with to present yourself as a low target but how is anyone meant to know that? There's no indication to say "my hold is empty". You may wish to present yourself as a friendly non-threatening player but how is anyone meant to know that?

Actually, that's a vary good point you make. :-)

@myrm I think the game needs an automatic "Jolly Roger" when you fire the cannon which is slowly lowered over time. And a cargo flag on the mast to show how many skull/chests/cages you're carrying.

I always find it rather amusing when you have an epic sea battle, a victor eventually emerges - with no spoils of war because no one had anything to fight over in the first place.

@gratchthegarr said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

If you're looking for a nice PVE server to play you might want to check around for a pirate game on Roblox. Then we can all enjoy a game based on PvP and let the devs work on fixes and new content for the whole community while you exchange block currency.

Man, the bulk of this community really is this immature. Now this all seems less and less surprising.

The devs themselves have said they want to appeal to as many people as possible. Adding a single player or pure co-op mode or simply having A BETTER TUTORIAL FOR GOSH SAKE would do wonders for appealing to as many people as possible. When are you going to sort out that this isn't going to harm your experience in any way? You're still going to find plenty of scrubs to chop up and destroy.

Its one thing to ask for a pvp free lobby before you get into game.. its another to want a pvp free server. Which are you referring to?

@myrm said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

@kungfustu72 said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

This is one of the issues I have with the game. You may with to present yourself as a low target but how is anyone meant to know that? There's no indication to say "my hold is empty". You may wish to present yourself as a friendly non-threatening player but how is anyone meant to know that?

Actually, that's a vary good point you make. :-)

This definitely would be one small step towards making the experience less frustrating for a beginner. Frankly, i've been blown up and killed so many times just trying to complete one of the simple beginner missions that I've just about given up. If players coudl distinguish between targets that really have nothing for them and those that they'd actually gain something from taking, that would solve some problems.

@sorenthaz I use emojis just cause it's f'n hilarious to me fool... I don't even know what troll bait is... I don't post or talk on forums much Soo whatever... Just wanted to express my feelings to the ones who want a P.V.E. pirate game... PIRATE GAME lol

@gareeet said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

Its one thing to ask for a pvp free lobby before you get into game.. its another to want a pvp free server. Which are you referring to?

Honestely, it really isn't another thing. Those people off in non pvp scrub land aren't hurting you any. I've heard a number of you say it wouldn't be fun or it would "take away the point of the game." Well, I'd let the people who try using the feature be the judge of that- Because honestly, they aren't hurting you by being in a seperate environment. There aren't that many players per server instance, so odds are you wouldn't even notice these "terriscrubs" (as I've seen one fanboy call them) being missing.

The only legitimate argument against it is server costs. If there were no human-run ships other than that of the party playing, it would increase the number of active server instances. The other option, having the same number of players but having some system that limits/prohibits PvP, would not incur the higher server costs but would require some amount of development time. But that's development time a company like Rare has the resources to muster without substantially compromising other content in development.

Has game dev experience

@summserious I would like to point you to Sid Miers Pirates, Assassins Creed Black Flag, and the multitude of pirate games on steam that are single player only.

@boxcar-squidy A PVE button that puts them on the same exact servers

In my opinion, SoT is simply "Pirate Deathmatch."

In a deathmatch game, you can gear up and go in with guns blazing. You can camp somewhere and snipe until someone finds you. You can try to team up until it's just the two of you left, etc.

Or, you can find somewhere to hide, and try to be the last person the victor has to kill. Make them WORK for it. Try to lure people together without getting trapped in the fight. Be that annoying fool who announces where other people are. There are ALWAYS other ways to play any game, if you want to find them.

But it's still "Pirate Deathmatch" by design, and that's what most people are going to play.

I do think it would be nice if there was one "social island" on the map, though. No merchants or anything useful, just a spot of land to hang out on, and you could only get there from the Ferry.

@trenix90 said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

@roosterhome said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

I kinda agree but on the other hand it wouldn't do any harm to have a PVE only option. I wouldn't be using it but I'm sure some younger families might. This game could be really appealing to the younger players if it had a PVE only option.

So all people can go there to level and ruin my fun? No thanks. These kids got to toughen up.

How do people who aren't in a game with you ruin your fun?

Seriously? Are you like, actually afraid theere won't be enough players if anyone is allowed to play by themselves or play co-op only? These people aren't affecting you at all, so what should you care?

@elentar said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

In my opinion, SoT is simply "Pirate Deathmatch."

In a deathmatch game, you can gear up and go in with guns blazing. You can camp somewhere and snipe until someone finds you. You can try to team up until it's just the two of you left, etc.

Or, you can find somewhere to hide, and try to be the last person the victor has to kill. Make them WORK for it. Try to lure people together without getting trapped in the fight. Be that annoying fool who announces where other people are. There are ALWAYS other ways to play any game, if you want to find them.

But it's still "Pirate Deathmatch" by design, and that's what most people are going to play.

I do think it would be nice if there was one "social island" on the map, though. No merchants or anything useful, just a spot of land to hang out on, and you could only get there from the Ferry.

I don't agree. If it was "pirate deathmatch" then there would be no need for treasure or forts, venomus snakes, skeletons or any of the other stuff in the game.

There is a game that is "pirate deathmatch, and it's called Pirates, Vikings & Knights. That game is purely about killing each other. This game is not. It has missions that in no way directly involve going around killing people. I mean really, if it's deathmatch, then where is the scoreboard? the stats? the rankings? Maybe there actually should be a deathmatch mode where there is no loot or treasure and it's just fighting, but that should be its own mode.

The only people I see supporting a non pvp server, lobby, or location are pvp players that just want the world to burn.

If the game has 4x the number of expected players, a no pvp option will still give you plenty of people to fight with.

@hobosloth28 said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

@roosterhome actually I think it would hurt, it would be too easy to earn xp and money without any resistance. If you become the first pirate legend by playing in PvE only servers how are you a legend among pirates if you've never been or seen a real pirate in your safe lobbys.

What does it matter how easy it is for them to earn things when they're in a seperate universe from you? Again, it doesn't affect your gameplay at all.

It's like trying to cheat a single player game, sure it's lame, but it doesn't affect anyone other than the person doing it.

And im getting real sick and tired of this notion that because a game has pirates, it must be online PvP. There have been many pirate related games over the years that are not and were not.

Co-op only or solo only can just be in its own little world that doesn't carry over to the PvP world. Every MMO has that, there's nothing wrong with that, and the people that arent playing in teh same world as you aren't affecting you. That argument of unfairness has no merit.

@trenix90 said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

@tahngarthor said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

@trenix90 said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

@roosterhome said in What type of pirate wants a pvp free lobby in a PIRATE game?? Ye landlover 🤣😂🤣☠️☠️🏴:

I kinda agree but on the other hand it wouldn't do any harm to have a PVE only option. I wouldn't be using it but I'm sure some younger families might. This game could be really appealing to the younger players if it had a PVE only option.

So all people can go there to level and ruin my fun? No thanks. These kids got to toughen up.

How do people who aren't in a game with you ruin your fun?

Seriously? Are you like, actually afraid theere won't be enough players if anyone is allowed to play by themselves or play co-op only? These people aren't affecting you at all, so what should you care?

Everyone would play PvE simply to level up and get their cosmetics knowing that there will be no threat from other players. You'll ruin it for PvP players because we'd have no people to play agaisnt. You'd also ruin it for PvE players because they'll find out how lacking the content is within the game.

You're making a really wild assumption given how this game is marketed. You're operating on the assumption that everyone wants an easy game, and that's simply not true. Already, playing solo is the most difficult way to play but many people do it. Have a little faith in humanity.

You're also failing to consider the fact that non PvP could just be entirely seperate and not count towards progress in the PvP environment. Honestly though, all the items are vanity, as far as I can tell, so what the hell does it matter how you got it? Everyone can farm the gold to get the items eventually, whether they PvP'd or not. So it really makes no difference to me the method they used. Aside from that, they can just make PvPing more rewarding- get bonuses for kills or sinking ships or whatever that go beyond just claiming the loot they had.

And if the content is that lacking, then well, maybe they shouldn't have released the game so soon.