Schooners/Clippers

@cannibalchow I appreciate the effort, but this is just an op brig, nothing more

@cannibalchow It's true what you say, but the fact is that we have just 3 ships, and atm we don't need a 4th that's pretty identical to one of these already in the game. A man o' war is a thing, but a brig like is another one. It would be better an entire new type of ship, like just 1 frontal cannon, but very fast. A commercial one, capable of fighting almost nothing

@cannibalchow Idk what you actual mean, cuz I never heard about nothing similar, but the idea sincerely make me curious

So yeah, I would like to see it for sure

@cannibalchow As cool as it may be, and regardless of how newbie I am(in terms of how long I've played this game) I don't think we need more ships right now, fixing certain known issues we have at the moment would be my preference over anything like this to be honest

@cannibalchow said in Schooners/Clippers:

@davidhawk1 Well if 6 man crewed Man O Wars come we'll need a ship that can outrun it which Schooners/Clippers were usually the best thing to swipe by them.

We already do, they're called Sloop/Brigantine/Galleon. Sloops may be the slowest, but a good sloop can outplay a fully crewed Galleon any day

I'm all for new ships in the game and more ship balance. I like what you are trying to do in creating ships specific for certain activities as I always also felt it is important to be to distinguish ships in the distance and kind of tell from their load out what kind of focus they have in that session. Ships need some rebalancing & customization anyway in my opinion if Rare wants the game to keep the game growing. People are too quick to dismiss and say ships are perfect as is.

Fore and Aft cannons are maybe a little OP, and I think maneuverability would need to be closer to galleon to balance. Otherwise, I think ship would be fine addition if Rare were even half interested in introducing play session customization based on ship loadout.

@cannibalchow said in Schooners/Clippers:

Hello there, I've been thinking of another ship that could be added a biig midship between Brig & Galleon just like in real life, a good old Schooner or maybe Clipper.
Here's how they usually look.

I think these would work very well as a Merchant focused ship for fast Cargo delivery missions, more maneuverable PvP but still be armed decently of course, so here's my compilation of Pros/Cons.

Pros:
-Faster and more maneuverable than a Brig in the wind but still slower than a Sloop when there's no wind.
-Merchant focus and maybe have better missions for more supplies when in the ship & doing Merchant Alliance missions
-3 cannons per side but spread far apart
-Tall main mast means better Crows nest view range
-Brigs can still out turn this when there's little to no wind
-possible single fore & aft cannon if need be
2 decks so storing and such will be fast

Cons:
-Lower to the water means less hits it can take and water enters easier
-Masts are larger and easier to hit
-Harder/Longer to turn when all sails are up due to length
-Getting into the wind may be difficult to learn due to sail shape
-Harder to turn due to length & sail shape
-Being caught in a storm means at least 1 person fully dedicated to repairs/bucketting
-If a fore & aft cannon are added there's higher chances of light/loot being seen on your ship
-2 decks so sinking is more prevalent

Thank you for taking the time to read this, I hope you enjoyed the idea.

love it but it prolly won't be added soon but we need a man o' war though

@cannibalchow and the gun ports on the ship will be bigger so one can get hit with a cannon ball or pistol musket or blunderbuss on the ship or it could be easer to hit

@cannibalchow said in Schooners/Clippers:

I might just be the only one who'd want this almost forgotten fast but very brittle ship type.

I want it too now

@cannibalchow said in Schooners/Clippers:

@davidhawk1 Alright but I still would like a ship made to be light and fast and have that unique sail shape, Schooner/Clipper type ships are the perfect midship of a Brig & Galleon.
Here's a tallship Schooner/Clipper

While here's what people are wanting more than anything else, (6 man overpowered Galleon) a Man O' War.

So not sure how a Man O' War can be balanced with the supposed double deck row of 6 guns.

Technically Galleons have way more than just 8 cannons, but look at how they work in-game. Just take out most of the cannons and make it like 6 cannons each side for a Man O' War with a crew size of like 6-8

@crazed-corsair or calling a brig a brigantine? Nice to finally have someone else on my side on this one.

Um it seems you want a super fast ship with lots of cannons that gives you extra rewards for doing merchant?

You want a fast ship. Its called a brig. Sure turning is bad with full sails but what most people don't know/do is raise sails when turning. The brig can turn nearly as well as a sloop with 1 of its sails raised.
Most people I play with don't know how to get the most out of each ship.
I still run into people who have been playing the game for months who don't know about dummy sails.

Are the ships perfect. No. But rare isn't going to spend time designing multiple ship types for the same size crews, when the current ships are fine.

The next ship introduced should either be a ship for 1 person or a bigger crew than 4. Thought given rare pushes "playing with others" I don't see a solo ship being introduced, especially when a sloop is not that hard to solo.

Introducing a new ship doesn't just mean balancing ship battle, it also means. Balancing PvE for the new crew size. A lot more work than most seem to be thinking is needed by introducing a new ship.

@aricardo-0000 I disagree. Adding a bigger ship with a bigger crew would be too unbalanced by crew sizes, since even if you balance the ship the whole game dies not take place on the ships. While I dont this this clipper is the best option, introducing ships that behave differently for the same sized crews would be an excelent way to add more options, more playstyles, and best of all more diversity in what you can run into out on the seas.