Pirate Legend content neglect.

  • Magus104
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    I feel like you guys keep overlooking just how many Pirate Legends there really are. Only you have the full user data. But based off the numbers posted in Aug 2018 you had 4 million players at launch which = almost 50,000 pirate legends. Thats based off data from over half a year ago I can only imagine its gotten much bigger now.

    Considering Pirate Legend is a long grind to get to and the Athena grind is long as well its safe to say the bulk of your ACTIVE player base is pirate legend. I cant play a single session without running into at least 4 other pirate legends and I haven't seen a single developer stream where you guys haven't run into at least 1 Pirate legend.

    You keep talking about the number of Pirate Legends based off the Achievement stats of 1.17% of the players have earned that achievement. But this is a flawed way of thinking. You have the data of the massive drop off of players after launch. You know exactly how many pirates have been created now. The average player has already quit so its safe to say probably 70% of the Pirate legends still play the game so look at your active user count look at 70% of that and there is your REAL Pirate Legend %.

    I just feel like you guys are still even a year later brushing off adding PL content because the achievement score is such a low %. If it was really that low why is it all I ever see? If this mega update doesn't contain anything for PL's I feel like that will be the final nail in the coffin for most of the PLs who a big part of your most dedicated player base as they have stuck through the painful grinds to get PL and Athena 10

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  • ClosingHare208
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    @magus104 yeah we need some more pl content

  • Zaannox
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    @magus104 I have been making posts regarding this topic since the Hungering Deep.

    Don’t get your hopes up. Rare doesn’t care about us, they only care about the numbers.

  • ViperishEmu2992
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    I don't know how many PL's there are? But I do know that after hitting Athena 10 my SoT playing hours have consistently declined. With other games on the horizon I may be done with SoT.

    It's a shame because I love(d) SoT. But the journey feels like it has ended at PL10. I will give Arena a shot but the attraction of SoT for me was never really PvP-based. For all intents and purposes my journey in SoT is finished. I'm sure I am not the only PL who feels this way.

  • Chronodusk
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    @magus104

    My theory is that more legend cosmetics and goals will come some time AFTER the Anniversary Update. I think their focus is on expanding the base pre-legend experience as a whole.

    I predict that this update will put them in a good spot to explore some more things for Pirate Legends.

  • Zaannox
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    @chronodusk They've been in a good spot for a while. I don't see why we have to keep waiting.

  • xIx ZeNo xIx
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    I've been really hoping that they will one day in the future they will increase the lvl cap in the athenas fortune rep and maybe invent a different rep for just pirate legend stuff separate from athenas. Different versions of PL and athenas cosmetics/guns/swords, maybe some daily and weekly challenges to earn (some) dabloons, they could also make the inside of the ship match the outside of the ship too, I'd like to see an awesome bone crusher map table when I use that hull, and have all my stuff inside look like bone crusher stuff, even all the useless barrels that are just there.

  • EGGamer13
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    @viperishemu2992 in the mega update they aren't only adding arena, so you can be surprised if arena isn't for you.

  • Geobiwan
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    No hatred towards all the pirate legends out there. But catering to a very small percentage of players who already have invested many hours into a game that doesn't include microtransactions (at least currently) would be a huge waste of resources. I totally understand the frustration and boredom, but the wonderful thing about the design of sea of thieves is you can simply stop playing the game for months and just wait for the content you want to be made to come out. Sooner or later Rare will smooth out the path towards becoming a pirate legend, it still takes an absurd amount of time and effort and until it doesn't feel like a huge grind there isn't really a reason for them to make being a pirate legend more interesting.

    Rare will eventually make the end game a priority, but they have to get the beginning and middle right first. with the next major patch almost out, and hints already on the horizon about the next patch, I would guess we will get some love for the pirate legends around the Fall of this year.

    If that makes you sad friends, im sorry (and also obviously not a dev) but go play those games "on the horizon". Sea of thieves will be here, better than ever when you return.

  • ViperishEmu2992
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    @eggamer13 I am very happy that Rare keeps adding new things to this game (although I am not always happy with their changes).

    I will definitely give Arena and the Mega-Update a go when it comes out. But is Rare adding new things for Pirate Legends? That is the topic of this thread.

    After hitting Athena10 the game just feels finished for me. It feels like playing the last few games of the season after your team has already clinched the title. It's kind of hard to really pour your Heart and Soul into the game.

  • ViperishEmu2992
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    @geobiwan This is a fair point. It's logical that Rare's priority is trying to attract new players. I think that most PL's understand that decision (At least I am assuming they do?).

    PL's just feel neglected and would like to see a bit of love thrown their way. Which is also understandable seeing as how dedicated most of them have been to SoT.

    Unfortunately you can't please all the people all the time and there's only 24 hours in a Dev's day too.

  • Chronodusk
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    @geobiwan

    Sorry but Pirate Legend is really easy to achieve nowadays, and does not require an "absurd" amount of time by any means. What with the Devil's Roar and alliances, skull forts being accessible at any moment... Its very doable if you dedicate a bit of time to it. Plus with players being able to replace two of the trading companies with the Hunter's Call and Sea Dogs (The Arena) it will make it more interesting.

    I think it should be harder to get, its already been watered down with constant high value loot being available.

  • SexyJeep
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    I agree with nearly all the comments posted here. IMO, I feel that being a PL means nothing much anymore. Most the PL's I run into, and even PL 10's, usually have less achievements, less miles sailed, and less overall time played than I do, when I ask. In short, most of them are terrible at the game and it's because they bought their way to the top with letters, using alliances for gross Athena, or speed running everything. Don't get me wrong, if that's the way you want to play, then fine, but when it comes to PVP, game efficiencies, and mastery of this games mechanics, I generally kick your ***.

    Being a Legend in this game was supposed to be about the "Mastery" - a Legend of the Sea, but Rare has made it an over-awarded/watered-down title. Everyone is in such a rush to get to it too, rather than enjoying the grind/ride. So when players finally hit PL or PL 10, they mostly stop playing because they have nothing left to do nor worth achieving. So why were you in such a hurry to achieve it then? Everyone wants to get to the highest level ASAP so that they can basically stop playing the game, lol. It's so comical to me. The whole time, I am sitting here at PL 7 with another 500 hours to go before I hit PL 10 and I am not only still enjoying the game, but can outplay most anyone I come across on the sea.

    There does need to be more content for PL's and Athena though. I would also argue more things in the game that are super rare to achieve that don't require PL or Athena so that there are multiple unique ways to achieve cool cosmetics for your play style.

  • BumBumBac
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    @geobiwan said in Pirate Legend content neglect.:

    I totally understand the frustration and boredom

    I totally don't, i'm PL and my fun isn't based off the titles, gear or quests I'm able to do but off every unique encounter I have with other players.

  • xIx ZeNo xIx
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    @bumbumbac same, I love the game for the game, I just also hope that more cosmetics come out for athenas and maybe a lvl cap increase on athenas in general, I'm only PL5 but I dont want to end at just 10, i wanna keep going lol.

  • Capt Niteshade
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    This is why I'm in no rush to get to PL status, no rush at all.. When it does finally happen for me and me crew mates I'm sure the end game will have already been massively improved, along with the game in general, it pretty amazing right now to be fair though :)

  • Zaannox
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    @geobiwan Being a small percentage of the community isn’t an excuse for shafting us. Hell, Apex Legends, A FREE GAME, might I add. Has content for their high end players. (Talking about the battle pass that you have to play an absurd amount of time to level up). And they JUST LAUNCHED! Please stop using this “you guys are so small” excuse. It’s getting old; and it straight up just doesn’t work. Name one game besides Sea of Thieves that has ignored their high end players like they do.

  • Zaannox
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    @viperishemu2992 Soon we’ll be able to say that fishing, a mechanic that had to be made from the ground up; was added before PLs had their sets completed! I can’t wait to see what people say in Rare’s defense then!

  • Geobiwan
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    @zaannox No need to caps lock friend, we are all on the same side. I am not so much defending them as saying get over it in the nicest way I can think of. You can play something else if it upsets you so much. Sea of Thieves will still be here when you want to come back and it will only be better.

  • Waggy79
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    I'm some way away from PL but would like to see more cosmetics for them. Having a choice of just the purple or ghost clothing means almost everyone looks the same. This goes against Rare's idea of every pirate having a unique look.
    When you compare to something like Destiny where there are so many different 'endgame' items and more players are getting to PL it needs to be addressed.

  • KRYTIKOS
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    Your right, I feel the time I spent becoming a PL was wasted because its pointless, we get a bright outfit and a hideout, but cant even play the song outside the tavern. Between the hackers amd lack of content for PL status, I'm probably out after the mega update because it seems all Rare cares about is a new player number, forget the ones thats put 200-300 hrs into our game. Rare only seems to care about noobs amd nothing more.

  • Zaannox
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    @geobiwan I didn’t use caps lock that much lol

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