Player Guilds

@coffeelight5545 said in Player Guilds:

PvP is a growing problem in sea of thieves. Many people keep getting attacked by random people who only want to mess with your day. We need a safe server with like minded people. To solve this I recommend Player guilds with the guilds having the option to jump on a server where only members of their guild are allowed.

The concept would be simple. You can create a guild and play on a normal server. You can invite people to your guild and when you get enough people playing at once, everyone in that guild can hop onto a private server where only members of that particular guild.

In order to remove unwanted members of a particular guild, at least half of the guild must vote to have a particular member removed

There are a number of issues with this suggestion. For starters, I would just like to point out that Sea of Thieves is a PIRATE game. In a PIRATE game you should expect people to randomly attack you. In case you don’t believe me, simply look up the definition of pirate and you will find the following; a person who attacks or robs ships at sea. I seriously cannot understand why people fail to realize that PVP encounters are an INTENTIONAL feature of the game that are not going away. Anyways, that is besides the point. If this suggestion was implemented into the game, it would seriously mess up the game’s current balance. I can only imagine how quickly large groups of people would amass a large sum of gold and reputation after filling a server with their “guild” members and grinding out Athenas. It would break virtually all of the progression system because there would be nothing stopping people from doing this. There is also the fact that servers don’t grow on trees. RARE has to maintain and pay for all of SOT’s servers, which means in order for this to happen RARE would either have to A, allow players to host their own servers, or B, host a server for EVERY single guild that wants one. Both are terrible options which would never work for Sea of Thieves or for RARE.

@coffeelight5545
As long as you rent the server with real world money so they can make my game better I don't care. Do it by the day or even weekly. I think $10 for 7 days sounds fair per person.

@zaannox
They will have their servers and the money can go to benefit the rest of the players on development of future DLC. It won't be long we will be paying for animals to be our pets. I just think they shouldn't have a free ride is all.

@exeternautical

Rare has plenty of servers. All the guild would allow is people the option of choosing a server with like minded people. I’m not suggesting paying actual money to rent a server.

I’m also aware about how ACTUAL pirates lived. True Caribbean Pirates NEVER buried treasure or hunted down skeleton or delivered cargo for that matter. True Pirates attacked merchant ship. This is a game, not real life. It’s meant to be fun

I am also aware that this game was built to include PvP. The problem is that not everyone enjoys PvP. That’s why I suggested a guild based server choice

@gatorwocky said in Player Guilds:

I think what is really needed is the addition of tissues for the tears. Or vials to collect those tears and those filled vials will have special powers. The consumer of said vials can skip the lines at Disney or something.

Fight or die.

This makes no sense. I’m not crying if that’s what you are trying to say. I’m just making a suggestion on how to improve the sea of thieves. I’m not upset if you don’t like my idea

This isn't an original idea. It is a tired idea. I don't care what it is you wish to do on the seas. We can be allies or we can just leave each other to our own tasks. However, be prepared to fight or I could be the one to sink your vessel. You are asking to run and hide. I don't care how you wrap it up or what pretty bow you put on it, you want to hide. You are wanting to run and hide and you want Rare to help you.

Fight or die.

@gatorwocky it's folk like you that drive people away from the game bud. The OP made a suggestion. You don't agree with it's that's cool but no need to talk down to other folk on here mate.

My job is not to promote the game, bud. I'm here to play a game. People that purchase a game and then want it changed fundamentally to suit them need another game. I also find it odd that a person with CarcassHorde as a screen name seems to have problem with killing other pirates.

I purchased a PvPvE game. I didn't purchase farm simulator or whatever that trucking in Europe game is.

I'm enjoying this discussion, by the way. I've laughed out loud once or twice. Thanks!

@coffeelight5545 Just because you can't deal with other players doesn't mean that Rare should introduce "player guilds" just to cater to your lack of skill/will to adapt.

I was playing through Mario yesterday and the goombas kept killing me, they should just make a mode without them.

@coffeelight5545 a dit dans Player Guilds :

PvP is a growing problem in sea of thieves. Many people keep getting attacked by random people who only want to mess with your day. We need a safe server with like minded people. To solve this I recommend Player guilds with the guilds having the option to jump on a server where only members of their guild are allowed.

The concept would be simple. You can create a guild and play on a normal server. You can invite people to your guild and when you get enough people playing at once, everyone in that guild can hop onto a private server where only members of that particular guild.

In order to remove unwanted members of a particular guild, at least half of the guild must vote to have a particular member removed

PvP is a growing problem in a pvp game? oh boy...
Read before buying:

@coffeelight5545 if you want full alliance servers there is already a few discords where they take over the whole server... problem solved?

@xzodeak said in Player Guilds:

@coffeelight5545 Just because you can't deal with other players doesn't mean that Rare should introduce "player guilds" just to cater to your lack of skill/will to adapt.

I was playing through Mario yesterday and the goombas kept killing me, they should just make a mode without them.

Goombas arena human players who mess with people just because they enjoy picking on people. What you are referring to is the same thing that people complain about when the skeleton ships pop up and kill you

@carcasshorde said in Player Guilds:

@gatorwocky it's folk like you that drive people away from the game bud. The OP made a suggestion. You don't agree with it's that's cool but no need to talk down to other folk on here mate.

I totally agree with this statement. I’m just offering a suggestion to make the game more fun. If you don’t like my idea, that’s fine. Don’t call me a looser or say I lack skill. I prefer not to fight people. I get little or no reward and fighting people isn’t fun for me. I will defend myself if necessary and run my treasure into the Red Sea so no one can claim it. I don’t sink ships for fun.

I’m a little disappointed with this thread. I intended this to be a helpful idea but I keep getting attacked from PvP lovers. I am aware how the game was created and perhaps me saying “PvP problem” was a bit harsh. I apologize for that. It’s difficult to appreciate PvP when you run into toxic players who only want to mess up all your hard work.

@goedecke-michel The mindset of people that die in a game and blame it on the game, rather them themselves baffles me. Also yes the only cure is "get gud"

For me the beauty of this game is the unknown encounters every player presents. The minute you remove the unknowable, that beauty is tarnished and befouled. If everyone is like minded, who would bother even questioning an approaching ships motives? Why bother keeping tabs on ships? Why bother cashing in loot periodically? Sure isn't because the AI is a threat in this game.

Here's the thing, I'm not really against player owned and run servers. As long as they are owned and run by players, why not? At least the burden of maintenance and what not isn't on Rare. However, if your only reason for these servers is because you can't deal with the potential PvP encounters, I question why you even bothered getting this game.

@coffeelight5545 said in Player Guilds:

I’m a little disappointed with this thread. I intended this to be a helpful idea but I keep getting attacked from PvP lovers. I am aware how the game was created and perhaps me saying “PvP problem” was a bit harsh. I apologize for that. It’s difficult to appreciate PvP when you run into toxic players who only want to mess up all your hard work.

If you're truely dissapointed just imagine how dissapointed most people are when they browse trough the recent topics and find another one of these gems.

I can understand that you're not meaning any harm, like most PvE afficionados but you should just accept that open play will always be PvPvE it's how the game was meant to be played. When rare talks about private servers they don't mention PvE play but in stead they mention practising ship battles and the (really great) loot and lore events.

While I would welcome the ability to group up with some friends to sail together on the same server I'd also want it to be in an open enviroment where I can still meet other pirates because interactions with other pirates is what makes this game and taking that away would impact the games feel as a whole.

@coffeelight5545

It's a good thing nothing like this is ever going to happen to this game.

Take second to read the other posts about PvE servers or safe servers. The verdict is that it isn't right for the game.

Here is yet another topic where this has already been discussed:

https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/89269/pve-servers?page=1

@coffeelight5545 said in Player Guilds:

PvP is a growing problem in sea of thieves.

An intended feature is not a problem. The problem is people who think the game was supposed to not have PvP.

@coffeelight5545 said in Player Guilds:

PvP is a growing problem in sea of thieves.

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@goedecke-michel We can discuss weather or not Rare will do it at lenghts untill the end of time (or at least untill either Rare stops supporting it or Rare starts PvE servers ^_^ )
But Please know that I'm against PvE servers not because I want easy victims. Heck I personally rarely start attacking people. I'd mostly hate it because it will bring uncalance to the population. People like me who like interacting with other players and the threat of PvP will pay the price because we'll mostly get PvP encounters in stead of a whole slew of different sorts of encounters ranging from fun drinking to sneaky sealty stealing and blowing things up (or getting blown up).

I'd much rather see Rare work around the problem of people who don't like PvP like with introducing alliances and events where people have to work together then forcing people to play in a certain way. Sure It's never perfect but I'd hate to be in an enviroment where those people who make up the majority of the players (calm collected pirates who just mind their own business) to a private server and be left with only the overly agressive PVP people on a server.

(This message was written yesterday but Posted today because I forgot to press submit)

@goedecke-michel I'm glad Rare's on this case and not me for example because I've got no Idea how to solve this puzzle. I feel that if they went for Private servers that would be a last resort.

I like to see this conundrum as a pie where there are 3 pieces.
One third is people who don't want PvP or at least won't engage. Most of them accept that they can lose and move on some are verry vocal which is their right.
One third is people like me who generally don't go out of their way for PvP but will engage in some piracy from time to time.
One third (and I think I'm really being generous) mostly partake in PvP, will attack ships on sight and will sink people for the fun of it.

Now if you make private servers you're pleasing one third of the player base and generally making two thirds angry. I know that not all of Rare's attempts have worked out in the long run but I trust rare and I feel that they can fix this conundrum without resorting to private servers.
An option I'd like to see is queueing together. This will solve 2 problems, People who like to sail with more then 3 friends and people who really don't like PvP. Because if you have this option you just find 6 people (trough a discord or another group) and queue up together to lock out a server, in this way the default would still be open play and the impart to groups 2 and 3 would be minimal because you'd really have to go out of your way to lock down a server.