Sniper must be nerfed

@navillicious said in Sniper must be nerfed:

@guepard4 if they were to change the sniper maybe make the cone wider on the barrel when hipfiring so it's not easy to noscope up close? Would rather that over a damage nerf if it were to be changed

I agree and feel a cone or bloom affect would be great. It could also be used to tone down the use of bunny hopping.

Here is a copy of what I have proposed in the past.

Bloom - Your bullets are not pinpoint accurate unless your feet are on the ground (running/standing) and aiming down the sites. Different levels of bloom based on weapon and character movement...

Flintlock:

• Aiming: 0 Bloom
• Hipfire: 1 Bloom
• Aiming + Hopping: 2 Bloom
• Hipfire + Hopping: 3 Bloom

Eye of Reach:

• Aiming: 0 Bloom
• Hipfire: 3 Bloom
• Aiming + Hopping: 4 Bloom
• Hipfire + Hopping: 5 Bloom

Man this has been a popular thing to post about lately.

The blunderbuss is what needs a nerf...there should be ZERO 1-shot weapons in this game, except for cannons. The other thing that NEEDS to happen is that they need to force the cutlass, and a single ranged weapon.

@aod-fluid If you think the current blunderbuss is had to be up against, try playing against the one during release. Compared to that the current blunderbuss is like a feather.

@guepard4
The sniper has a very ling reload time, if you miss your first shot you are pretty much dead to a normal pistol and sword guy.

@guepard4 said in Sniper must be nerfed:

Seriously, it is too easy to kill using the sniper at closed range. It is weird to have 3 weapons when you can use sniper for everything.

You don't sound like someone who is using the sniper rifle, you sound like someone getting killed by it.

@guepard4 I personally think the current weapons are all pretty balanced. First, you have the sniper, it does the most damage, and has the most range, but has a long reload time. I don’t consider snipers to be much of a threat unless I am in the water. If I am on a ship I simply jump and move around until either A: I kill them. Or B: They have to reload, in which case I also kill them. Sniper’s don’t one shot you unless it is a headshot (Could be mistaken on this). This means that you should have ample time to take them out. The next weapon is a blunderbuss. I currently consider these to be the least threatening of all of the current weapons. They have a short range, do a medium amount of damage, and a decent reload time. They are terrible from long range, so you simply don’t go near said person with a blunderbuss. The last weapon is the pistol. The pistol is my favorite weapon, it has the best of both worlds. It has fairly good range, does a decent amount of damage, and has a pretty good reload time. This is my go to weapon because it allows you to deal with situations as they come. If there is someone using a blunderbuss you can use the pistol to take them out from a decent ways away. If someone is using a sniper, you can use the pistol to take them out while you move. The downside to the pistol is that you have to be pretty accurate to do anything.

Overall I don’t really see the problem with snipers, and before you go and say “I haven’t fought them.” I have fought them and used them. There is also the fact that the high damage is due to the fact that again, it’s a sniper. You can’t nerf everything just because it does more damage then other weapons. And you can avoid being shot by moving. While you may think you shouldn’t have to move, a little bit of strategy has never hurt any game. Anyways that’s just my two cents.

@guepard4 said in Sniper must be nerfed:

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@guepard4 said in Sniper must be nerfed:

Seriously, it is too easy to kill using the sniper at closed range. It is weird to have 3 weapons when you can use sniper for everything.

You don't sound like someone who is using the sniper rifle, you sound like someone getting killed by it.

You sound like someone afraid they will take away the only way you can kill others. Sorry if you are a bad player a need the sniper to win something, but it is OP. Good players like me preffer to nerf it.

A good player wouldn't be asking that it get nerfed, they would be able to kill the guy with the sniper rifle.

@guepard4 cant use it for blocking

@guepard4 said in Sniper must be nerfed:

@trickrtreat01 dijo en Sniper must be nerfed:

@guepard4 said in Sniper must be nerfed:

@trickrtreat01 dijo en Sniper must be nerfed:

@guepard4 said in Sniper must be nerfed:

Seriously, it is too easy to kill using the sniper at closed range. It is weird to have 3 weapons when you can use sniper for everything.

You don't sound like someone who is using the sniper rifle, you sound like someone getting killed by it.

You sound like someone afraid they will take away the only way you can kill others. Sorry if you are a bad player a need the sniper to win something, but it is OP. Good players like me preffer to nerf it.

A good player wouldn't be asking that it get nerfed, they would be able to kill the guy with the sniper rifle.

Who said I am not able? Seriously, you are pathetic. You always do the same, instead of talk about the topic you always attack to the people because you are unable to write a single argument. I have you seen do it in a lot of topics. Shut up and get out of here, no one wants your comments.

If I were a moderator, I would have banned you time ago. I don't understand why @Deckhands don't do it. You are toxic.

To be fair, you started the toxicity by calling yourself good and calling another player bad. He defended the guy you attacked and you are calling him toxic for it.

On topic: the sniper is in a strong spot right now, I agree with this. However, if they nerf it then most people will just stop using it because it's not OP right now and then everyone will complain about whichever weapon replaces it in popularity. It would probably be replaced by the blunder, then more people will complain that "blunder is OP because it can one shot". Then if they nerf blunder so it can't one shot then nobody will use it because that's the only point to using it. Then everyone complains that pistol is OP because sniper and blunder both got nerfed and are useless.

@guepard4 I read all the comments. You made no point here you only are making yourself look more toxic right now. I didn't say his comment was civil I said you started it then called him toxic for keeping it going. Also you ignored the entirety of my post that was on topic and decided to focus only on some petty argument instead.

This may require a group hug.

@mangel2500 said in Sniper must be nerfed:

@kzoo-kid dijo en Sniper must be nerfed:

@guepard4 I read all the comments. You made no point here you only are making yourself look more toxic right now. I didn't say his comment was civil I said you started it then called him toxic for keeping it going.

No, Trickrtreat01 attacked first, Guepard is right. I don't comment much, but I always read commends from himn attacking. And I don't get why you are defending him. He just tries to distord topics, and looks like you want the same.

I didn't defend him, not once. I even clarified that point already. All I said was that OP started the toxicity with someone else and therefore doesn't have much room to call the other guy toxic (pot calling kettle black). Also, the majority of my post was addressing the topic (unlike yours) so saying it looks like I'm trying to distort the topic is unfounded.

Personally I’ like the mechanics on the sniper rifle as they are. Yes you can hip fire at close range. But you can also block and side hop and come in with your sword. Like all games it’s just knowing the mechanics and playing a lot to improve your skills.

Calling for a “nerf” is a bit drastic. I think the balance could be adjusted bit, though, simply by reducing the Eye of Reach’s effectiveness when hip-fired. Honestly, it shouldn’t even be possible to fire it from the hip at all. It’s a musket with a telescope lashed to the top. Remove the ability to hip fire the Eye of Reach and it will be perfect.

@genuine-heather I think if you remove the ability to hip fire then the weapon would be useless. But I also think if you nerf the damage it would be useless as well. Without agreeing that it needs a nerf, I think the only way to do so without making it useless would be to make it harder to hit no scopes (hip fires) at medium/long range. Or, buff everything else.

@kzoo-kid said in Sniper must be nerfed:

@genuine-heather I think if you remove the ability to hip fire then the weapon would be useless. But I also think if you nerf the damage it would be useless as well. Without agreeing that it needs a nerf, I think the only way to do so without making it useless would be to make it harder to hit no scopes (hip fires) at medium/long range. Or, buff everything else.

I don’t understand your point. How would removing the ability to hip-fire the Eye of Reach make it useless? Its strength is supposed to be long-range accuracy. It does distance very well, and hits hard. It wasn’t intended to be a close range weapon, so I can’t see how removing hip-fire would render it useless.

@genuine-heather Yes I see your point but in reality if you HAD to be zoomed in to shoot then the number of situations when you can use it goes from a lot to almost none. It would basically be like limiting yourself to only one weapon for any combat on ship. Also in keeping with your points of realism, you would easily be able to shoot someone in close range without aiming down sights. More importantly, the result of this change would be dropping the sniper for the pistol because any scenario where you can even shoot the sniper, you can use the pistol plus you can use the pistol in any situation that isn't extremely long range.

@exeternautical said in Sniper must be nerfed:

@aod-fluid If you think the current blunderbuss is had to be up against, try playing against the one during release. Compared to that the current blunderbuss is like a feather.

I did, and point blank shots with a blunderbuss still normally end in a one-shot kill. There should be no possibility of a one shot kill. I don't care if they just drop one or two pellets out of it, since each one seems to do 10 damage. Leave me with 10 or 20 health at least...

@kzoo-kid We clearly use the Eye of Reach in very different ways. I equip it any time I’m fighting at range. I use it a lot, especially from ship to shore, and I don’t believe I’ve ever fired it from the hip. If I forsee a ship battle, I usually equip a blunderbuss. The blunderbuss is ideal for close-quarter combat. When I disembark on an island I usually take my pistol, for its versatility.

I think firing the Eye of Reach from the hip in close quarters is a bit of an exploit.

@genuine-heather I think you are just limiting yourself when you don't need to, and I completely disagree with calling it an exploit lol. I use the sniper in every situation because it's good in every situation. However, I don't think it's OP because as you've stated blunder is superior in close range, but sniper is still good. The problem which I think we can agree on is that sniper is effective in mid range as well if you are good enough to reliably no scope. This makes it better than blunder at mid range and better than pistol because you can finish with a sword swipe or eat a banana and shoot again, thus making it the best weapon long range, the best weapon mid range, and the 2nd best gun close range. If you completely remove the ability to hip fire then it becomes the best weapon long range, barely usable mid range, and literally useless up close. That is way too hard of a nerf.

@kzoo-kid said in Sniper must be nerfed:

@ I use the sniper in every situation because it's good in every situation.

That alone illustrates the problem. It shouldn’t be good in every situation. That’s the pistol’s role. The sniper does much more damage than the pistol, plus knockback. It shouldn’t have the same versatility. If it couldn’t be fired from the hip, then it would be properly balanced.

If you completely remove the ability to hip fire then it becomes the best weapon long range, barely usable mid range, and literally useless up close. That is way too hard of a nerf.

That sounds about right to me. I guess we have different ideas about the roles of the weapons and how they should be balanced.

@genuine-heather I'm telling you that if they completely removed the ability to hip fire then the weapon is useless and nobody would ever use it in any situation except for MAYBE ship watching and even then you could just use pistol for the same effect.

If that's what you consider balance then I think we have completely different definitions.