Hackers are killing this for Xbox

@filipisilva360 what i don't get with this post is why do people assume its the pc players who do all the hacking.
ive come across more cheating on console games than I have on pc games ive played

@restnpieces39 said in Hackers are killing this for Xbox:

@colonel-hans why no link to this video? ive put quite a few hours into this game and have yet to come across anyone i felt was hacking on the other hand i've quite frequently been called a hacker when simply outplaying a crew so it seems to me this post is leaning towards the old "he beat me he must be hacking!"

This happened to my BF yesterday. He's good. he's really good. He can 1v4 most crews. SO they just instead called him a hacker and a cheater.

There is a definitely a huge difference between the two. It's just as toxic to accuse people of cheating just because they outplay you.

@wipe-nd-clean Well no one calls me a cheater lol. I suck and die all the time. But thanks.

@acid182 said in Hackers are killing this for Xbox:

@shrek-t-t I'm not entirely certain but is the rep you get for a chest not linked into the amount of gold you get for it which varies greatly sometimes

Not in my experience. The value of an item seems to be directly tied to the xp gain.

@nefrit-od said in Hackers are killing this for Xbox:

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the "there are no hackers" people are starting to sound like flat earthers .plenty of evidence on youtube.

Did you see god mode /One shot /Invincible ship/ speed boost/ teleports / on this video ? When some one asking for video proof we always seeing the same video with visible skels and stuff code and aim for colors.
People know about THIS cheat and Rare working on it, but others rumors about cheats sometimes are just ridiculous.

$9.99 a month and your missing a few. Funny thing is these hackpacks were available for download on the 18th Mar 2018, 2 days before full release. Im starting to think the game companies are selling the bloody things at this stage to get even more dough. I have met a few but there so infrequent that it's hardly noticable. Nevertheless even with an anticheat these hackdevs will have a workaround a day later. After all its not just a one time purchase it's a darn subscription.

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@nefrit-od said in Hackers are killing this for Xbox:

@codplop написал в Hackers are killing this for Xbox:

the "there are no hackers" people are starting to sound like flat earthers .plenty of evidence on youtube.

Did you see god mode /One shot /Invincible ship/ speed boost/ teleports / on this video ? When some one asking for video proof we always seeing the same video with visible skels and stuff code and aim for colors.
People know about THIS cheat and Rare working on it, but others rumors about cheats sometimes are just ridiculous.

$9.99 a month and your missing a few. Funny thing is these hackpacks were available for download on the 18th Mar 2018, 2 days before full release. Im starting to think the game companies are selling the bloody things at this stage to get even more dough. I have met a few but there so infrequent that it's hardly noticable. Nevertheless even with an anticheat these hackdevs will have a workaround a day later. After all its not just a one time purchase it's a darn subscription.

Yeah nice try "rumor" guy ...

Rumor? Nobody can be that naive, As mentioned above we are forbidden to prove via solid evidence on the forums. So when some Random guys says rumor we can just giggle at them
as our hands are tied.

@barnabas-seadog said in Hackers are killing this for Xbox:

Like it or not folks, crossplay is here to stay. SoT is a standard bearer for this Xbox feature.
Why not help Rare/MS improve the experience, because that what they're going to focus on, not splitting the playerbase.
You see hackers, report them to Support and make it easier for to Rare ban them, that's how we keep this issue in check.

Article 7: Cheaters shall be punished.

I'm in the camp that thinks most of these encounters are not hacking/cheating but rather server issues/lag.
On the second topic you mention, help rare/ms improve cross-platform it's been tried but is always triggering a s**t storm. Xbox players are used to an equal play field (everyone has the same graphics, same fps, same controller) so win or lose is purely skill based. Currently cross-platform does not provide that, PC players move faster, jump better, aim easier and can play at 60fps. On top of that they load faster most of the times when coming back from the ferry of the dead. So Xbox people will always suspect hack when they get killed over and over by a pc player while they seem to do no damage to him. But this is probably due to the fact that the Xbox player sees the pc player in a different place than his actual position due to server issues, rendering speeds etc.
Anyway, if this is indeed as you say the flag bearer of Ms for cross-platform games they need to move a large amount of resources into this and balance this out. Otherwise this whole experiment will fail. In my opinion cross-platform play on current gen is only ready for cooperative games not pvp games (even casual ones like SoT).

@barnabas-seadog said in Hackers are killing this for Xbox:

Like it or not folks, crossplay is here to stay. SoT is a standard bearer for this Xbox feature.
Why not help Rare/MS improve the experience, because that what they're going to focus on, not splitting the playerbase.
You see hackers, report them to Support and make it easier for to Rare ban them, that's how we keep this issue in check.

Article 7: Cheaters shall be punished.

SOT is not the standard, Crossplay came to xbox at least like 3 years ago and it is in a few games. most of those have the ability to make crossplay optional AND they aren't even shooter games where the competitive advantage of M&K a main factor. Crossplay should be optional for any game where it can offer competitive advantage. I.E shooting mechanics. SOT is going against the standard. Hence all the posts asking for the option.

splitting the playerbase is not the best argument I have ever heard for this reason:
Crossplay is a very rare feature at the moment (number of games made vs number of games that support it.)
It has always been this way since the birth of gaming and consoles... Xbox plays with xbox PC plays with PC Nintendo with Nintendo PS with PS.
Crossplay is a feature that increases your pool of players to play with.
Making it optional would reduce the number of players who crossplay but not eliminate it, WHICH still means you have more people to play with than almost any other game on the market, because every other game is limited to 1 system.

SOT theives could just have easily come out without any crossplay action and Xbox players would be oblivious to any issues and PC would be oblivious to any issues, just playing away. But since it does have crossplay, now making it optional all of a sudden breaks the game? how does any other game without crossplay be successful or have people filling servers? Im so lost

I don't think cross play should be eliminated. Just policed by the community. We should be able to block other sailors we know are cheating. The other night this player on a two man sloop killed our four man galleon while we were finishing up a skull fort. We as a team shot him with blunder,swords nothing killed him. Extremely frustrating when you have spent 45 sailing and clearing a fort out. We all just gave up. Would have been nice to just block both of them and never see them again on your server.

@killin0chillin I think nobody wants cross play eliminated, I enjoy too much playing with my friends on PC and Xbox. I think people want the choice, toggle a switch and go to Xbox only servers. I find that fair and wouldn't hurt anyone. And if rare in the end sees that 99% of the players prefer Xbox only servers it would also help them know that they have a problem.

In any case since the forum here seems full of this suggestion and the rating on the Xbox store is also based on people asking for an Xbox only version the minimal thing Rare can do is test on the test server. Make a few Xbox only servers look at win vs lose ratio of Xbox players and then compare them with their stats on mix servers. Then provide the data to the people to either prove to Xbox players there is no difference or adjust the game if they want to keep obligatory cross play. In the end, if Xbox players get fed up and leave we all lose and end up with empty pc only servers 😀.

I be seeing no Pirate hackers matey..

Xbox player here and have been since beta, never came across any cheating whatsoever in the entire time I've played SoT. It might be ruining your experience but why should we suffer because you met a few bad eggs? I'd be surprised if your claim was even legitimate. 3x is not believable sorry. I have over 100hours clocked and I've yet to even meet a hacker. Not saying its impossible but it is extremely unlikely that you came across 3 in the one play session.

Ive come across it one time. must have been a speed hack or something (minor?) because I was in a solo sloop and they were galleon. they started chasing me so I went into the wind and they were catching up fast? I jumped overboard (they were directly behind me), managed to board and drop their anchor and then harass them for a good 15 seconds till they managed to kill me. (all the while my sloop is still sailing straight into the wind. when i respawn back on my ship they are at the SAME SPOT and closing. a few minutes later they were beside me hurling cannons. only fishy thing I've had happen yet

I continued to turn and try to evade them. gave up after 30 minutes of them continually catching me and firing cannons. I was running out of planks

Might be one of those hacks you can toggle on off/adjust and is just minor enough that most people wont notice and you cant really prove it

If you think someone is cheating you are supposed to report them through the Xbox live hub on Xbox or app on PC. This informs Microsoft that they need to look at that player's game history. If the offending player is found to have indeed cheated they will be banned. It's simple and I have been using this feature from time to time(there isn't much cheating on Xbox live). It works, and when Xbox live drops the banhammer, it is serious, you can't just make another account. Your hardware and your account get banned from Xbox live, sometimes permanently.

@acid182 Exactly I have seen it only a few times. Of course then sometimes lag messes me up, frustrating but not hacking. The main issue is that Rare didn't install an anticheat client, they hopefully will eventually and it should help.

Record and report. Really us the best thing to do. The Devs have made it clear they intend to deal with it, just give them time.

Personally I believe most of this is related to desync more than anything. I think the number of claimed hacking or cheaters versus real situations of it are probably in the 800 to 1 if not more than that. For example, I personally invaded an enemy Galleon yesterday. There was more near Point Blank Blunderbuss going off than I have seen in a long time with all four players trying to kill me. I was able to get away from all four of them Blunderbuss me with less than 20 damage taken. All the while I was one or two shotting them with Blunderbuss pistol combo. Plus the 3 times I powder kegged them. No hacks obviously, but my ping was rocking at about 45. One of my crewmates was at 300ish and was being destroyed by the same crew that seemingly couldn't touch me so long as I was moving.

@codplop said in Hackers are killing this for Xbox:

the "there are no hackers" people are starting to sound like flat earthers .plenty of evidence on youtube.

Not saying there are no hackers, but you people keep saying you meet 3-4 A DAY and I've thrown 200+ hours into the launch state of this game and met 0. What are the freaking chances of that? Also, NONE of you have supplied evidence; both Xbox AND Nvidia gpus have DVR capabilities and yet all of you scream cheater and give no evidence, how is that? Are you afraid we'll watch the video and say "uh... yeah, that is how I play, he's not cheating, you're just bad." or what?