Rare, you should do something about solo players

Complaining that you dont know what you are doing and got yourself raided. How is this Rares fault? Plenty of people play solo and avoid this exact situation... what would you have rare do anyway? Buff sloops? Nerf galleons? Go learn how to play then make a valid complaint.

@a-darn-zombie Maybe go learn to read!

We don't need any kinds of buff or nerfs. Come back when you'll fully read my "not valid" complaint.

@ConfusedGamer99 I understand what you mean and I agree with you. I should be more aware of my surroundings. But I shouldn't be fleeing all the time because players outnumber me in every situations.

You shouldn't be so scared about your surroundings, even more in a so focused PVE game.

I like PVP, but can't do anything because every ship I encounter are 3/4 man galions.

If only there were only solo ships, maybe being aware of your surroundings would be more interesting, as you would face your attacker. But how the game is done know, it's just constant fleeing, no single PVP phases.

And I saw some players complaining about constant fleeing ships, so I don't thing how multiplayer is done now is adequate.

@CaptainZap2007 I always keep my lanterns off ;) I read the little tips they give during loading screens.

Had a great solo game last night.

I managed to amass 6 cursed skulls and a couple of chests which took a couple of hours of self amusing play time due to sailing against the wind quite a bit. I made it back to a port and took the most valuable skull first but then decided to take all the other skulls off the ship and hide them in a bush.

Just as I put the last one down a galleon sailed in slowly behind my ship, I expected them to let loose with the cannons but instead they decided to board my ship so I used the time I'd brought myself to carry on taking the stashed skulls to sell. I managed a couple before the galleons captain was there waiting for me, he said hello and I realised the skull was missing. He joked with me and said he'd hidden it on the other side of the rock and I could get it. I felt very nervous, my hands were shaking just looking at him and seeing his crew on my ship. But I took his kindness as genuine and picked up the skull and was able to sell it.

I came back to them and said, I've never met kind pirates before, he said they do exist and I then realised it would have been a totally different story if their ship had sailed in a minute or two before.

tl;dr

Deal with it, learn to cope, if you're going to play solo then the biggest part of the game is not being screwed over by larger more organised crews.

People complain about this in Escape from tarkov. Saying teams and solo should be separate, yet EFT devs have made clear that the game should be played in teams. Having pumped a few hours in SOT it’s exactly the same thing. I play solo and if I get sunk it’s my own fault for not teaming up. And In no way they should change that. It’s a team based game. Plus, I like the buzz I get when I take a gallion down that has 4 players. People that are asking for refunds and stuff after a week of release are stupid, they are only going to buy the game when they have released more content. I know it lacks content atm but I’m more than happy with the core basics of the game..

@nekicoule maybe you should come back when you get good. :)

I play solo a lot. It's actually my favorite way to play. Have yet to be raided while on an island. And if I was, then fair play to the players for getting by my detection. As I always have eyes on the horizon.

Before getting off the ship, I get a good look all round to check the horizon. If I see a ship far off, I will remember to keep checking that direction.
Sometimes if I am paranoid, i'll keep the boat spinning in a circle near the island, so it looks like I am on it moving.
Before going onto an island though, I usually drop the anchor, then when the boat is settled, I raise the anchor and leave it bobbing there for a smooth getaway if need be.

You really have to plan better. And when you do lose treasure? Try and remember it's a pvp pirate game and that's the point. Instead of starting pointless threads asking for stupid things.

Solo is more difficult, sure, but not by that much. I don't have a problem going solo to an island, digging up 4 chests, the selling them all without being killed or robbed.

It's not that hard.

@a-darn-zombie said in Rare, you should do something about solo players:

Complaining that you dont know what you are doing and got yourself raided. How is this Rares fault? Plenty of people play solo and avoid this exact situation... what would you have rare do anyway? Buff sloops? Nerf galleons? Go learn how to play then make a valid complaint.

Complaining that he's complaining? What is Rare supposed to do? Shut down the forums or block anyone that has a complaint for a game they paid for? Go learn what people use the forums for, then make a valid complaint.

@cbleman who said he payed for it.. Gamepass, remember? even if he did, this isnt Rares fault, he got rekt and now hes salty. they aren't going to put together "solo lobbies" because some players lack the skill or brains to play safe. Common sense seems to work pretty well for the rest of us who play solo.

Let me argue with something else:

Mobas and other competitive games are meant to be played in organised team, and when players launch in soloq and matchmaking put them against a full premade team, they most of the time complain about it.

I think it's the same thing here, even more when dying can be so punitive.

OK, it's a PVP game, but it's a tiny tiny part of the game. Rare aimed for exploration, experience, the memories you make during trips. They are big quests only PVE, nothing really aim for PVP, nothing tell you ingame that you should play PVP. It dosen't give you a single thing, unless there is treasures on the boat you managed to destroy.

@nekicoule This isn't a focused PvE game. The PvE facilitates the PvP. They both play off each other and are equally necessary for delivering the experience Rare is trying to create. I won't argue that there aren't problems. Rare's experiment doesn't always deliver the results they want, but there are reasonable tweaks that could bring it back on track in those areas. The constant sense of danger when you go it alone, however, is intentional. The difficulty of the game is derived from the threat of other players taking what you have. There's more safety in numbers and the smaller ships are designed to be able to outrun the larger ships.

@z-h-a-r-v-3-y-x said in Rare, you should do something about solo players:

People complain about this in Escape from tarkov. Saying teams and solo should be separate, yet EFT devs have made clear that the game should be played in teams. Having pumped a few hours in SOT it’s exactly the same thing. I play solo and if I get sunk it’s my own fault for not teaming up. And In no way they should change that. It’s a team based game. Plus, I like the buzz I get when I take a gallion down that has 4 players. People that are asking for refunds and stuff after a week of release are stupid, they are only going to buy the game when they have released more content. I know it lacks content atm but I’m more than happy with the core basics of the game..

They should remove solo play from the game then. But they didn't, they sold the game to people knowing that solo players would buy it. Now they owe it to solo players to address their concerns. They took our money, now they have to address solo players concerns.

@nekicoule I enjoy the solo experience and I do agree with your grievances, it's not fun getting your a**e handed to you by bigger crews/gallions and there have been a few times where I have had loot and then lost it to other crews etc. I see a lot of complaints about this isn't fairetc, but the one thing I say to myself is this is a game about pirates, since when do we think Pirates were fair and honest. For me, it's fine as it is, things happen, that's the life of a Pirate!

@flowerofcarnage you’ve totally missed the whole point of that post.. people that bought the game or even pre ordered should have held back before they bought it. If the game got delayed in release there would have been an up roar, people don’t have patience these days. Yes they maybe should have bit the bullet and delayed the game until they added more content but that’s too late now, just wait and play another game until they do. Patience is a Virtue

@NekiCoule
You didn't by any chance have 4 or so chests (seafarers I think) and a chicken coop?
I just joined a game where my crew was mid sloop attack. I think we were on Discovery Ridge.

I get the OP's point and I get the point(s) of the rabid adversity here. Learn to play, get skills, be smart, don't do this, that, etc. Opinions are like **sholes. Everyone has one, and they all smell like **it.

Instead of people being concerned that the better the game is for everyone, the better the game is for everyone... they're trying to keep it exactly the same for what they alone want.

While the OP has a specific point, exploration for the sake of exploration is not encouraged outside of implementing the skills of a field mouse, in a field surrounded by hawks. Nobody wants to recognize the value of the point, just to point out how stupid they are for thinking such a thing. Shame on you for having an opinion!

This is an open-world game intended for a large audience. The rabid nature of the people who like the game just like it is, never changing, are going to eventually lose interest just like everyone else unless Rare innovates and changes.

Being miopic and self-serving will eventually leave you with nothing more than the exact same skeleton fort to raid and the occasional boat that wanders by.

Make the game more robust for more people and innovate, focus on a bigger crowd than the voices of the loudest supporters and someday, this game might truly be great.

@cbleman Thank you for your replies.

You said out loud what I was thinking quietly.

I was surprised to see how most of the players here replied, and almost gave up with this threads until I read yours.

@Vexed-Anemone I have to say, I lied on my OP. I wasn't seeking treasures, I was at an outpost, got too lazy to change direction seeing a galleon parked there. When I got near the outpost, they all attacked me.

That was my fault. I thought players would be nice and have some honor and humanity to leave a sloop alone at an outpost, but I was wrong.

I lied to have more credibility, sorry about that, but I parked countless of times near other sloops, and nothing happen. Or only one: we started to talk, and I helped him unload his ship.

I think separate servers will encourage PVP for solo players. As said cbleman, how it's done now is just constant fleeing ravens that wants to swallow you whole. If the game is aimed PVP as some said, then why when I play solo I never try to PVP anyone?

I love the game, I don't have the Xbox pass and own the game. Playing with friends is really fun, I feel safe and can explore an island as the others seek the treasures and keep an eye on the boat.

Sadly, I feel the exact opposite by playing solo. I'm scared all the time, I never feel safe, even at outposts. Why can't I have the same feelings playing the same game, but on Solo?

I just ended a session with two friends. We were parked at the outpost and a solo Sloop came by and parked aswell. We, of course, didn't attacked him, we let him unload his boat and asked him to join us for a full galleon.

@nekicoule I prefer to play solo, learn from these clips. I've literally never had any treasure taken from me by other players in the live version of the game.

https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/43336/are-you-feeling-bullied-in-sea-of-thieves-constantly-looking-over-your-shoulder-worried-a-galleon-is-going-to-come-steal-your-treasures-do-you-like-cats-if-so-click-here/12

If you can't swim, would you jump into the deep end of a pool?

You knew it was harder. You knew it would be a challenge. You chose it, and now you are upset when you have to deal with the consequences? Entitled much?

I dont realy get why ppl complain about solo playing. Im a solo player to, and ive bin atacked by solo and party players, but is not that hard. Yes, ive bin killed and stiled, but i can flee to. Is just knowing what to do in a specific situation. I think that is the propose of the game.

@savagetwinky I don't want a safety game, I'd love to do some PVP, but I can't in solo.

I'd love to get better, but I don't think fleeing is the best way to learn, either by getting rushed by a galleon.

But I think it was planed by Rare to separate ships depending of the number of players. Why there will be 4 separate lobbies to put everyone in the same bag at the end? Why would you have to quit to add a player to your ship?

So maybe it was intended, I don't know.