EasyAntiCheat isn't working. Please consider making your own workaround

@hungnferal I just ran into a player exploiting in HG. He was crud launching all day. Never heard him launch from a cannon but he kept boarding my ship from far distances

@wolfmanbush said in EasyAntiCheat isn't working. Please consider making your own workaround:

I dunno how it's worth it to them. Maybe they will go in a different direction in the future (but I dunno, since they are claiming there are a lot less reports)

Whenever something escalates they gotta handle it themselves so I dunno how it's really helping them because that's what they were doing before anti-cheat.

What concerns me about the "less reports thing" is that it really doesn't mention that a lot of experienced players left the game (for a variety of reasons) and a lot believe that "reporting doesn't matter". When people with influence in the community regularly are saying that reporting doesn't matter, that does have an effect around the community.

I dunno how good/bad it is with 3rd party cheats but it seems to be pretty terrible about detecting exploits. So many of SoTs exploits are not complex or sneaky, a lot of it is very obvious in action, yet stays in the game quite some time.

I'm not sure EAC is a tool for detecting exploits, it checks if you have 3rd party cheat/hack software installed/in use and then denies you playing (AFAIK).

@wolfmanbush said in EasyAntiCheat isn't working. Please consider making your own workaround:

@lem0n-curry said in EasyAntiCheat isn't working. Please consider making your own workaround:

I dunno how good/bad it is with 3rd party cheats but it seems to be pretty terrible about detecting exploits. So many of SoTs exploits are not complex or sneaky, a lot of it is very obvious in action, yet stays in the game quite some time.

I'm not sure EAC is a tool for detecting exploits, it checks if you have 3rd party cheat/hack software installed/in use and then denies you playing (AFAIK).

EAC requires a level of access that is not popular within parts of the community that focus on personal security.

I think some of the frustration is that players feel like they are giving up a lot, without much reward.

Some just click on stuff to play a game, that group always exists.

Some are confident in everything Rare does or just knowing a "anti-cheat" is installed/involved, that group always exists.

but I think some are not pleased with giving a lot of access to something that still allows them to be subjected to major exploits on a daily basis in SoT.

Sorry Wolf, but I fail to see correlation between my post and your reply.

would encounter invincible ships that somehow knew where everybody was

Emissary vs grade 5 reapers? And it really isn’t hard to encounter other ships.

But what a lot of players fail to realize is that no cheat detection will ever work 100% of the time. There are always work around and as long online playing is a thing. Cheaters will find back doors

@wolfmanbush said:

What concerns me about the "less reports thing" is that it really doesn't mention that a lot of experienced players left the game (for a variety of reasons) and a lot believe that "reporting doesn't matter". When people with influence in the community regularly are saying that reporting doesn't matter, that does have an effect around the community.

The in-game report system is awful. The upload limit on the site is small (unless they recently upped it; I used to send clips through youtube/streamable). And even when accounts are banned, and especially if they're already ban-evading, it's not like they're gonna say, "well I guess I'll give up this time."

Unfortunately, it seems like a waste of the person's time reporting. It's easier for some folks to just "woo-sah" and VPN to a new stamp.

@lem0n-curry said:

I'm not sure EAC is a tool for detecting exploits, it checks if you have 3rd party cheat/hack software installed/in use and then denies you playing (AFAIK).

Then it is insufficient & I'm curious why Rare went with it in the first place.

@theblackbellamy said in EasyAntiCheat isn't working. Please consider making your own workaround:

@lem0n-curry said:

I'm not sure EAC is a tool for detecting exploits, it checks if you have 3rd party cheat/hack software installed/in use and then denies you playing (AFAIK).

Then it is insufficient & I'm curious why Rare went with it in the first place.

Again: as far as I know. Maybe EAC does more than that.

They say it stops a large number of cheats currently and they are in the process of talking to Epic on a way to upgrade/improve it.
I assume EAC are doing the work on stopping the workarounds the cheat softare developers use when their users get caught / are stopped from using the cheat software.

In the SoT podcast of today they're also talking about Auto-ban, where Rare themselves uses telemetry of exploits to remove players from the game as soon as it picks it up. But for that they need players reporting about the exploits, so the team can figure out what people are doing and how to measure that for the banning (which doesn't need a game update) and (I assume and hope) adjusting the code so these exploits can be removed (for which a game-update is needed).

I've not heard of invincibility cheats for either pirate or ship, or infinite ammo. I often find newer players hackusate without realising there are good players and the servers struggling account for a lot of the suspicious looking activity such as teleporting or hit registration.