Perhaps someone suggested this idea. Why not add the ability to steal a flag without damaging the ship? Sometimes the game comes across newcomers or weak players who you morally don’t want to send to the bottom, but they have an emissary flag. It would be interesting to show off your stealth skills and steal the flag. It would also be less painful for the players. I have a lot of hours in the game and a lot of money. I don't need loot, but I need flags for the reaper's quest. Maybe I don’t think like a pirate and want to be more loyal to players who are weaker than me, but this will still be considered theft.
Emissary Flags
@cpt-calamity162 Great Idea...Many times we sank newer players, only, because they had a flag...I'd much rather have them enjoy their adventure, but take the flag tax.
@zig-zag-ltu Perhaps this could open up new opportunities for interaction between players. Or new trading opportunities. For example, if something of equal value could be offered in exchange for the flag.
@cpt-calamity162 interesting idea. Might be hard to balance between not being an instant steal and not take as long as sinking a ship.
@foambreaker In fact, this flag may cost only 1 gold coin because it was not obtained in a major battle, but was only stolen. Just a small addition to completing the flag collection achievement with the least amount of damage for players who have spent a lot of time collecting treasures. If you don’t care about treasures and are ready to be content with just one flag, then this means that you shouldn’t give a damn about the cost of the flag itself.
@crowedhunter said in Emissary Flags:
Only if it could be reattached. It's way too easy to board and run around sowing chaos if you aren't trying to fight.
But this sounds like it could be funny though. So I'm for it.
Reattach has it's own issues, but yes, it would be to easy.
Maybe you can only steal it from a rowboat?
@burnbacon пишет в Emissary Flags:
It would also be less painful for the players
Nothing more painful than finally reachib. Grade 5 and reach the docks only to hear “Flag stole” by a player who been tucking on your ship for past hour. Waiting.
New players would love this, tuckers would be a cancer
In any case, this is less offensive than losing completely all the loot, which in the end will not even be sold. There is also nothing stopping you from checking the mast or leaving someone to guard the flag while you sell the loot. Also, if the player is completely alone, any pirate can show favor and wait until the booty is sold. Of course, in my 1700 hours of playing this game, I've met a lot of toxic players. You could even say that they are the majority. However, there are a lot of good people in the game. The point is that my idea is suitable for both toxic people and those who want to show loyalty. No part of this community will be harmed, but it will at least give weak players or newbies a chance to not drown in vain. They will be able to gain positive emotions knowing that they could have lost everything. They could have lost everything, but they only got away with losing the flag.
@foambreaker In fact, I only proposed a general concept. It seems to me that it is better to entrust the development of mechanics, balance and cost to the developers. They know much better what the game engine is capable of. They control the price balance. This really shouldn't be easy. You need to show secrecy, endurance and skills as in a full-fledged battle. I'll be ok with any capture the flag mechanic as long as it's balanced and helps keep new people in open sessions without forcing them to flee to safer seas.
@cpt-calamity162 I think they would be better off just not running an emissary if they're being ambushed a lot. Being able to steal it wouldn't prevent them from being sunk 99 times out of 100.
It would expect it to mainly just be another thing you can do while you're boarding to be annoying.
I don't know, I think it should be worth as much or nearly as much as if you would sink the ship. Remember it's not about the gold it's about the glory :D...few coins wouldn't change anything anyway.
Perhaps a whole emissary system could be reworked.
Instead of voting and having the flag magically appear on your ship, you would acctually have to climb up there and attach it as well?
To steal the flag, it could take perhaps 10-15 seconds and make noise as loud as repairing? If you were to kill the person who stole the flag, perhaps it could drop its value by 1, meaning a level 1 stolen flag would get destroyed in the process.
Idk, really cool idea tho, love the discussion here.
In any case, this is less offensive than losing completely all the loot
I rather keep my flag than my loot. It horrible to be sunk and lose a flag, but I rather have my flag. It far more worth than loot that is easy to come by.
There is also nothing stopping you from checking the mast or leaving someone to guard the flag while you sell the loot.
New players wont do this and once there flag is stolen, they first to assume "cheats" not a tucker. And once they learn of tuckers. It far to much to worry about to "Guard" a flag...this isn't CTF
Also, if the player is completely alone, any pirate can show favor and wait until the booty is sold.
Like those who wait for you to dock at an outpost before blowing you up. Finish a fort and steal the key? Yeah no such luck, and the forums in the past month proven it.
in my 1700 hours of playing this game, I've met a lot of toxic players
Define Toxic.
However, there are a lot of good people in the game.
Can count them all in a single hand. :P
the point is that my idea is suitable for both toxic people and those who want to show loyalty.
But not for the weak and lesser knowledgeable player. Your more profiting players to camp more often now, waiting off there own ship for another who happens to have a grade 5 flag and take it from them. it could of taken them a couple hours to reach it, or first time and some player steals it. I see no loyalty with this.
No part of this community will be harmed
Just those who decide to play SoT for first time and that happens. Its not harm but annoying much like having to always check the hiding places on your ship after leaving a shrine or island. You shouldnt have to worry but for 'ships' not shadow people.
but it will at least give weak players or newbies a chance to not drown in vain.
again, your losing a Flag that offers a Boost in gold. I rather keep that, not the loot.
They will be able to gain positive emotions knowing that they could have lost everything.
They just lost a gold boost, that a huge hit in my book.
They could have lost everything, but they only got away with losing the flag.
Same as before, the Flag has become a mark that is pretty much required to gain gold quicker and faster. Without it your drowning. Sink my ship and steal everything.
I like the idea of stealing a flag, it would have to take time and make noise and mentioned already. Also you should be able to reattach. Fun fact, the flag is in the bottome of your boat. One of my crew glitched through once and got to see it. Which is why you drop a copy when going threw a tunnel.
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