Toxic reapers are ruining experiences

this is a bit of a rant regarding reapers I need to get off my chest

But this isn't feedback then. So why?

But the reapers aren’t just pvp hungry players.

These are players that like going out of there way to ruin someone’s experience on the game and enjoying that feeling of hurt they feel.

For starters. Ive max out all the other factions and I have yet to reach 75 for Reapers. So i been doing Reaper stuff. But NOT all Reaper Players are hungry pvp. I mind my own and yes, even RUN from fights. :p So dont be saying 'players' when it more like a small select few, and even then. Ive seen non reapers do more Pvp.

Also..."ruin someones experience, enjoying feeling of hurt they feel"
Im sorry...But again not all Reapers or even players do. Its a PIRATE game. Sorry but you need to understand this better.

I was invited to a Xbox party by one of the galleon members.

THAT! is your own fault for your experience. You should know better than this.

calling me a [mod edit] and being transphobic to me. I was trying to talk to them reasonably but I had four dudes in their 30s cussing me out at the top of their lungs.

Again, your fault here. You could of simply blocked and left. No reasoning with children. Block, Report, and end the day.

we dropped sails with as much as we could carry and ran into the Red Sea.

I also find this funny.

single update the community in sea of thieves was almost shattered

Not quiet. Toxic players have been a thing in SoT and any video game. It just grows like weeds over time. No update is to blame. You just happen to meet a group of crazy kids and accepted an invite to hear them slur.

I literally have to server jump because I know if there is a reaper I’m not making any progress.

Risk and Reward kid. As a experience player, you should know this by now. Like I said, Not all Reapers are hungry and they just wanna lvl there own stuff.

Rare are almost encouraging this toxicity.

Do explain better.

don’t even say that this is a pirate game because pirates historically

Im gonna stop you right there kid. Last i checked, this be a fantasy game as well. Meaning there is no Historical accurate things here. From everyones knowledge from novels, movies. Pirates have been both evil and lazy. Some even honorable but some still pure monsters.

exploiting and abusing weaker or passive players

Sigh.

Attacking people in a pirate game is not toxic. Just because you dont want to participate in that massive game mechanic doesnt mean that any crew owes you a free pass to not sink you and not steal from you.

Also just because you met a toxic reaper crew doesnt mean that every reaper is toxic. Ive met countless angry toxic PvE emissaries who threw slurs at us just for sinking them and stealing their treasure (aka regular pirate stuff) and you dont see me saying that an athena emissary flag is ruining the game and causing people to become more toxic.

Emissary flags are meant to be high risk and high reward. You sign up for pvp as soon as you raise one so your bad experience is entirely a consequence of your own actions.

But the reapers aren’t just pvp hungry players. If they were they would play arena, but as evidence shows they didn’t. These are players that like going out of there way to ruin someone’s experience on the game and enjoying that feeling of hurt they feel.

This doesn't logically follow at al. I enjoy PvP, but I don't enjoy arena. Why? Because I like my cosmetics, I like the different PvP experience that adventure offers, and I enjoy the variation in combat where I can use a Sloop against a Galleon, etc.

While racing to the Red Sea I was invited to a Xbox party by one of the galleon members. Interested in what they had to say since I could see them speaking through trumpets I joined. Immediately when I got in they started cussing me out, calling me a [mod edit] and being transphobic to me. I was trying to talk to them reasonably but I had four dudes in their 30s cussing me out at the top of their lungs.

You met a toxic crew. It happens. This isn't new. The fact that every couple of servers you meet a toxic crew isn't evidence that Reapers is ruining the game.

The main thing right now that’s bothering me is that the game and Rare are almost encouraging this toxicity. They say they want to keep the seas safe and have a sense of community but they pay people huge amounts for killing other players and taking this loot.

If you're referring to Twitch partners, I don't understand. If they're being paid, then a) they're definitely gonna be 100x more civil than anyone you encounter in-game and b) why would this make other players toxic? It doesn't really make sense.

I was about to just leave this post as is and not say anything

but then...

(don’t even say that this is a pirate game because pirates historically almost never went after other pirate ships if they new they belonged to pirates, they went after government vessels, plus sea of thieves is more that a pirate game and if you think that’s all it is than go back to COD or Fortnite where you can fight to your hearts content instead of exploiting and abusing weaker or passive players)

just gotta take a deep breath in, and relax...

because pirates historically almost never went after other pirate ships

Pirates, historically, also never

• Attacked living skeletons
• Attacked Megalodons, and Kraken's (folk legend and myth, likely nothing more or close to what we have in game)
• Explored Volcanoes that erupt every 15 minutes
• Fought a giant skull guy in the sky called Flameheart
• Fought ghosts
• Had glowing and/or floating parts on their ship
• Had glowing and/or floating parts on their clothing or equipment
• Had any magical things to create cursed gold or Tall Tales

If you're going to use "historical realism" as your argument to PvP, it works just as well as 90% of the content in PvE.

plus sea of thieves is more that a pirate game and if you think that’s all it is than go back to COD or Fortnite where you can fight to your hearts content

Sea of Thieves is unique, neither of those games has ship combat like SoT does, open-world threats, or single-shot weapon arsenal like SoT that everyone has access instead of dropping into some random place with random luck for random weapons that could mean a win or loss on complete random chance.

instead of exploiting and abusing weaker or passive players

When the Sea is full of Thieves in the game called Sea of Thieves: it's called thievery, not exploitation or abuse...

"rolls on deck laughing"

It doesn't matter what online game you play, these sorts will be in it. It's got nothing to do with reapers. You know in future not to entertain trolls now, don't join randoms VC groups, especially if they've just been chasing you.

@rookhazed merek would be envious of this bait.

@lackbarwastaken Wdym bait? I’m not trying to start anything lol

@rookhazed i refuse to believe you believe what you wrote.

To be honest even if reapers didn't exist I would still sink every ship in sight.

@burnbacon Sorry for the formatting

1. It’s feedback in the form of a rant

2. I’m happy for you that you are max and I’m glad you are doing a passive reaper grind. I never said all reapers. I know there are a lot that choose to go the passive route. I apologize for not staying this point in my post

The thing that got me to fall in love with sea of thieves was the sense of community and that it yes is a pirate game. It’s always been a pirate game, since day one I’ve known that and accept that but people use that as an excuse to be toxic. I don’t mind getting sunk when it’s someone challenging me to a fight or double crossing me once we beat a fort. I’ve had laughs with people after they sink me or vice versa

3. The reason I join parties is because I’ve had many points where I’ve been able to negotiate or work things out. I’ve also had my fair share of misunderstandings so I like to hear people out. I also do report, on Xbox and sot

4. I know other games have toxicity but this is about sea of thieves. Before reapers me and my friends laughed at toxic players and brushed them off. I wouldn’t be making this post if it was one group of crazy kids. This is an almost every day thing at this point. You might not experience as much as me and I’m glad you don’t, but it’s to the point where I can’t enjoy any updates or new events

5. I’m not sure what you mean by risk and reward

6. What I meant by this is that it’s not an excuse people can use. I should have framed this better, I wrote the post and didn’t reread it so if it doesn’t make sense that’s why. I know it’s a fantasy game and I’m glad it is. Real pirating was ugly and boring, Blackbeard’s head was cut off and hung on the front of a ship

7. Not sure why you’re sighing but again, I didn’t really word this right and I apologize. What I mean is that they usually know people will put up little resistance if they are in the middle of an event or voyage and target those people

@scurvywoof What about what I said was toxic? I’m just talking about something in the game that frustrates me

@lackbarwastaken I’m really not, I don’t want to fight with people about this because I’ve heard these things people are saying a thousand times. I’m trying to see if other people have experienced the same things. I have no intention on starting feed wars with anyone and I just wanted to say my piece

@gallerine5582 I apologize for that part. I was extremely stupid to put that in. I know it didn’t make sense but I was just sick of people saying the same thing without actually saying anything else

@a10dr750 I said in the post that I’ve experienced toxicity in other games plenty, but in sea of thieves they are trying to be immersive with in game proximity chat, emotes and a text chat so it’s pretty hard for me to just ignore it. I usually do just ignore it but I still see these things, no matter how much I ignore. The reason I joined the party is because we assumed they wanted our loot and ran before they fired a cannon ball. Two of them were sitting on the front of there ship with speaking trumpets so I thought they were trying to tell us something. I don’t usually join parties because people are usually toxic using in game functions

@navillicious Again, I am not upset because I’m getting sunk, I was fine with getting sunk and still am fine with it because I know it’s the nature of the game. My issue is with the reapers that I have met who are extremely toxic, which is the majority of the ones I’ve met

@rookhazed the entire Reaper faction is meant to balance out that nice 2.5x reward you get for being emissary in any faction. Remove reapers, lose the system and its bonuses/cosmetics...

Don't want to be hunted by Reapers? Don't raise an emissary flag and remove 90% of the chance of being targeted by one.

Please read this before commenting because most of these comments I’m seeing are the same

I would like to make this clear

A. I’m not trying to say every reaper is toxic or PvP hungry, I’m saying that most of the ones I’ve had an encounter with have been extremely toxic. I’ve also played other toxic games but this is about more than just a group of toxic people to me

B. I’m not complaining about the fact that I’m getting sunk or the fact that it’s a PvP game, I’ve lost ship fulls of loot and been fine with it, my issue is with the people messaging me that im bad with clown emojis or saying transphobic things when they hear my voice. I never experienced these things until the reapers came along

C. My other reason for making this post is because there has always been pirating in this pirate game, but the game has lost its sense of community its desperately trying to keep together. I’ve made life long friends on this game I will never forget. In the early days of the game I remember playing shanties with eight other pirates on one boat while we sail off to do skull forts, racing around the map against another galleon without anyone firing a cannonball or going around the map and doing commendations with other crews. These experiences are what the game was and still can be (at times) to me

D. I apologize for the way I worded a few things and about the entire “historical pirates” part. I know it’s a fantasy game with the closest thing to reality being the wave physics

E. When I say that Rare is encouraging this behavior I mean they are indirectly feeding this toxicity but paying players more to go out and seek out ships with more value being gained form turning in stolen treasure

My reason for making this post is not to start any fights (as I stated). I simply want to see if people agree with me and I also just wanted to vent my frustration about the current state of the game

All in all I still love sea of thieves, it’s the game that has inspired me to pursue a career in video game design. What I’m trying to say is that I miss the way the game use to be and I hope they add something similar to the Meg that requires multiple crews to work together for something other than a commendation that gives five doubloons

@navillicious I do block but my issue is with the fact that the initial message was sent, plus you can’t mute people or block people in game (as far as I’m aware) plus most of the time that wouldn’t change anything because these people don’t try to message me more that 20 minutes after my initial encounter with them

@navillicious I have received these messages from in game text chat, in game voice chat, Xbox messages and Xbox party chat (though party chat is rare) I usually do leave the server and everything is fine after that. I don’t want to mute all in game voice chat or text chat because that’s cutting me off from all the nice people I’ve encountered and played with

@navillicious What I think the game would benefit from is a system similar to what apex legends does and have someone or some people on twitter or social media platforms or even their own website that you can message with proof of toxicity or cheating and they will warn or ban them. I feel it would be very difficult to implement a individual block/mute button in game because it’s an open world game. Not impossible just difficult

@navillicious said in Reapers ruining experiences:

@rookhazed They could have a list in one of the menu's that has all the players that you can select and mute/block similar to the crew menu, I'm not sure how the reporting system works for this game but Halo has their own support forum where you can submit tickets with pictures/videos for evidence where they have moderators review and take action when needed and I wouldn't be opposed to a system like that either but I feel like an in-game system to at least block players would be more convenient and have less paperwork essentially lol.

Such a list could be used to determine if someone is still close or even on the server.