too much salt in the sea

  • VAP2458
    Marauder

    too much salt in the sea

    I have been playing since the beta of the game, I have always loved sea of ​​thieves and I even opened a youtube channel about the game, but lately I have seen the comunity become rotten.
    let me explain better, yesterday, while I was doing a guilded, a brig starts shooting at us, then we reverse course and start fighting, after I have done a triple kill, a hotmic player starts to insult.

    I think making the game so popular was a mistake because it attracted people to play other games that are known to have a toxic community.

    need a much quicker way to report players, I haven't paid to have babes have nothing to do but insult.

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  • Uzugijin
    Master
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    Making a game popular is a must in a game producer aspect.
    If you are certain that the community is hopelessly rotten, then you should just mute other crews. Trash-talk is annoying, but personally i don't really mind it.
    Captain Flameheart's verbal abuse got me used to it.

  • Joe Krakatoa
    Commander
    Insider

    We all sail on a sea of salty tears.

  • Glannigan
    Sailor

    I only use XBOX Live LFG & Party Chat.

    I have never encountered “Toxicity”.

    By doing this you insulate yourself from that garbage.

    There are tools already built into the systems to ensure you have a pleasant gaming experience. It’s just no one uses them.

    I also use the “Block” feature at the end of every session. I probably block 9 out of 10 people I sail with.

    Didn’t adjust the sails, blocked!
    Being a total noob, blocked!
    Did anything I don’t like?, Blocked
    Sucking, blocked!

    My sessions and people I play with just get better and better.

  • VAP2458
    Marauder

    @uzugijin LOL.

    mute isn't enough, toxic players should be banned.

  • VAP2458
    Marauder

    @glannigan yeah, that's a way, but we need a way to clean up the community for everyone, not just us.

  • BARMALEY7580
    Captain
    Insider

    Maybe you destroyed them in some exotic way, but the "children" are now different.
    This game encourages mutual insults, it can't be helped - pirates!

  • Uzugijin
    Master
    Insider

    @vapingbad93 but you can't just filter this out; Sure, on a personal level you could, like Glannigan, but from Rare's it's not that easy. What if you become "toxic" at some point for just one occasion? what if you sail with a toxic crew and you also get accused? Should you be banned right away? Where does toxicity start and where does it end? Toxicity needs two people. One that says and does some nasty things, and another that receives that as nasty. I bet many toxic people don't play this game for a long time, anyway. They come, mess around, get bored and go. They don't become a part of the community.

  • mferr11
    Vanguard
    Insider

    @vapingbad93 said in too much salt in the sea:

    we need a way to clean up the community for everyone, not just us.

    toxic players should be banned.

    Start recording, it's truly the only way to get someone banned. You need hard proof of them being toxic (slurs, racism, sexism, things that are clearly inappropriate)

  • D3ADST1CK
    Vanguard
    Insider
    Founder

    @mferr11 said in too much salt in the sea:

    @vapingbad93 said in too much salt in the sea:

    we need a way to clean up the community for everyone, not just us.

    toxic players should be banned.

    Start recording, it's truly the only way to get someone banned. You need hard proof of them being toxic (slurs, racism, sexism, things that are clearly inappropriate)

    You don't even need to actively record. You can use the clip feature in Windows (and I'm sure XBox has similar functionality) to grab the last minute of gameplay instantly (Windows Key + Alt + G is the default), or use a third party clip recorder as both NVidia and AMD provide this ability in their software.

  • WolfManbush
    Champion

    Negative experiences help people appreciate the positive experiences.

    The world isn't perfect and neither is the sea. That's a part of life. I don't think reporting does much to solve your individual disappointment about the community, that is going to take you adjusting your philosophical sails into a more positive approach to negativity.

    Rarely are servers back to back negative. Whenever I encounter cringey people trying to make others upset I just go to a new server and nearly every time the next server goes smooth. This community is like most others. A lot of people are minding their own business, a lot of people are looking to laugh and have fun and not be unpleasant to others, the bad apples are the minority. They are loud and annoying and rude but they aren't a large portion of the whole. Just ignore them. They aren't worth being upset over

  • JollyOlsteamed
    Captain
    Insider

    I still find it funny that almost every single one of these "toxic game" complaints starts with "i love this game buut.."

    Anyway back to topic

    You said that "making this game popular was a mistake"

    Theres very little a company can do to garuntee that their game will be popular infact almost impossible

    Sure companies can follow trends

    Like the worst gaming generation of all when every gaming company wanted to do boring "battle royales" horrible nightmare

    But even trends dont garuntee popularity

    Community isn't that rotten at all as you claim it is

    Joined an open crew sloop last night

    I helped a new player do whatever he wanted to do until we came across a galleon

    The new player manned the sails and steered and he did really good to my surprise despite him being very new to the game

    I manned the cannons the fight was very equal until a man from the galleon shouted out "hey man uh we running low on supplies" to which i responded to with "saame.." so we broke up the fight

    We ended up in an alliance after some grog and music and share of tales such as my "jolly's 3 hours on a rowboat" story after that we finished two athenas togheter

    What am i trying to prove with my story?

    You derive one experience of toxicity and make it into a bigger issue than it is

    And since one instance of toxicity made you think this game is rotten i counter that claim with one experience of friendly and sportmanlike encounter

    Community isn't rotten you blow this one instance of toxicity up too much

  • Jeroenix
    Marauder

    @vapingbad93 Unfortunately this trend has become the standard for gaming in general, and some people can't control themselves in a pure PvP environment. It has for a long time, but nowadays everyone's in direct communication. I took the measure to mute all crews per standard (I hope this becomes a default setting one day), because I've had it with people yelling and cursing.

    You're right, they should be banned, but I'm done reporting them. As you stated, it really does take too much time, and I have no certainty it actually helps deter others, or get themselves even a warning.

    Mute. There's no need at all to talk to other crews, nor hear what they have to say.

  • Galactic Geek
    Seafarer
    Founder

    @Jeroenix Reporting takes too much time? It only takes me about 30 seconds through Xbox Live - less if I don't leave a comment.

  • SerDudekiller
    Lord
    Insider
    Founder

    I haven't paid to have babes have nothing to do but insult.

    Money has gone to a good place, since there's people in the company with 200 IQ brains smart enough to implement this:

    Other Crews -> Mute All

    Enjoy.

  • SerDudekiller
    Lord
    Insider
    Founder

    @mferr11 said

    toxic (slurs, racism, sexism, things that are clearly inappropriate)

    Freaking amen. Of the very few people around these parts that doesn't need a hazmat suit to go outside of their house. "Toxic" is commonly and thoughtlessly substituted by players around the forums, Discord & also those that somehow make it in my crew in place of much more subdued words to describe that same behavior. You'll often hear "That's toxic" and you're wondering what the story was, and the person is talking about someone spawncamping them to sink them.

    It's ridiculous how a user's behavior can be so dramatically mischaracterized from the brutal misuse of a word, just because someone felt invigorated to add it to their every day vocabulary to look like all the other "cool kids". Sickening.

  • SoyaBean566
    Marauder
    Insider

    Well I think trash talk hotmicers are hilarious, one of the best things about this game... especially after you killed them. If it gets too anyoning I just turn on mute others crews voice chat but most of the time trash talkers are really funny lol

  • Galactic Geek
    Seafarer
    Founder

    @serdudekiller said in too much salt in the sea:

    @mferr11 said

    toxic (slurs, racism, sexism, things that are clearly inappropriate)

    Freaking amen. Of the very few people around these parts that doesn't need a hazmat suit to go outside of their house. "Toxic" is commonly and thoughtlessly substituted by players around the forums, Discord & also those that somehow make it in my crew in place of much more subdued words to describe that same behavior. You'll often hear "That's toxic" and you're wondering what the story was, and the person is talking about someone spawncamping them to sink them.

    It's ridiculous how a user's behavior can be so dramatically mischaracterized from the brutal misuse of a word, just because someone felt invigorated to add it to their every day vocabulary to look like all the other "cool kids". Sickening.

    This isn't just the "cool kids" either. Adults do it too. Just take 1 look at the news of today and you will see it happening virtually everywhere.

    It almost makes me want to recoil in disgust.

    Words have power - be careful how you use them.

    Many will say trust is dead - but that's exactly why I try so hard to build it up. We need to be able to trust one another...

    ...unless I want all of your loot - then you are well and truly 🤬.

    😅

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