@comrade-molly said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@needsmokes said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@comrade-molly

Most people have said similar.. Just click the tab and close window.
So, what's the point in any of it then? Clearly no one wants to be subjected to watching it, that's evident from what's written.

I have been looking at streamer numbers on this game now and then for a few years now, since the delusion became apparent that these people were needed to make a game succeed. And considering millions play this game and only a small handful of thousands watch people playing this game. I'll leave that there. The numbers speak volumes.

The game, and all games will be fine without them. And i would much rather earn content from a game by playing it, rather than do something non game related to earn rewards.

The numbers Rare releases are a clever marketing trick, and they know it. They release total player numbers but they include anyone who's installed the game on Game Pass and tried it once. (This is how we get the lie of "only 3% of players play Arena") (...)

They did not say anything about percentage of players, the 3% you are referring to is time spend in Arena (Joe mentioned that more than 97% of playtime is spend in Adventure).

The amount of time spend by players who installed from Game Pass and tried it once is probably very small.

@needsmokes They play the online game, they use game chat, they agree to those possibilities. Not anyone's fault but the ones letting the children play.

@needsmokes said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

This must be why pirates wear eye patches. They have been forced to gouge their own eyes out watching streamers for a period of time once again!

With so little new content in this update, why oh why are certain items only tied to this horrendous system of unlocking things?

I'm sure most people would much rather play the game they love and earn items the traditional way.

Enough of it.. Add content to your game and stop trying to make us watch this nonsense to earn things.

It speaks volumes when you have to be bribed to watch people play video games when really, you shouldn't be watching at all but playing them haha.

I hate the forced watching of it.
They should allow us to earn then by playing too. 😁

I don't understand why watching 20 minutes of Sea of Thieves is such an imposition. It's about the easiest possible way to get free stuff, short of Rare just outright giving it to you. And there some really good streamers out there. My personal favorite is Beardaggedon. He's a genuinely nice guy and a great player. There are many others. The point is, Twitch drops are not that hard to get. More importantly, they help support the streamers who promote the game. There's always a huge spike in viewers during drops. A percentage of those viewers will stick with a streamer, who in turn helps generate interest in the game. It's a win-win.

@needsmokes said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@genuine-heather

The reason I don't want to have to view twitch to gain cosmetics for a game that I would rather have the opportunity to earn in the game itself is because I personally don't see the positive side of streaming, and I have no desire to help falsely temporarily boost someone's viewing figures to encourage more of it. The reward simply doesn't encourage me to do so. No reward would.

Okay. So don't bother then. There are already plenty of cosmetics you can earn playing the game. Go earn them and enjoy yourself. But many people do enjoy watching streamers, as evidenced by the popularity of Twitch.

I have never seen high viewing figures for SOT, and fail to grasp the overwhelming desire of Rare to keep chasing streaming figures.

SoT actually does fairly well on Twitch. While you may personally be unimpressed by the numbers at any particular moment in time, those numbers add up over time. Like it or not, Twitch viewership is important to gaming companies. Your failure to grasp this doesn't change its importance. Twitch is part of any modern game's marketing strategy.

The game itself is fantastic, and the amount of people who play it is amazing, even after all this time it still grows. Not because of a few thousand people watching someone behaving a bit silly playing it, but by the games attraction and reviews itself.

Absolutely. But it's also a bit silly to deny the importance of streaming completely. A "few thousand people" at any given hour of the day adds up quickly over time. Surely you can do the math. Gaming companies aren't just wasting their time here. They know what they're doing.

Currently on Twitch:

Chess - 50k+ viewers.
SOT during a giveaway 13k viewers.

Chess is the oldest strategy game in the world. I think it's fair to expect a rather high viewership.

What's the point? Worry more about game content and not about who might be watching (not playing)

There's no earthly reason they can't do both. I think it's fair to say Rare has shown they do indeed care about game content. They also care about Twitch. They're not mutually exclusive. If you really don't like Twitch, don't watch. Don't worry about the drops. No big deal.

I certainly hope these beautiful icey cosmetics will be available to earn in game at some point; my main gripe with releasing cosmetics via drops is that if you miss a single day, well you're out of luck. Also, they shouldn't really be adding cosmetics thru such means when it's been nearly a year since the in-game clothing stores have received new clothes...

@needsmokes said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

This must be why pirates wear eye patches. They have been forced to gouge their own eyes out watching streamers for a period of time once again!

With so little new content in this update, why oh why are certain items only tied to this horrendous system of unlocking things?

I'm sure most people would much rather play the game they love and earn items the traditional way.

Enough of it.. Add content to your game and stop trying to make us watch this nonsense to earn things.

Best solution is to fire up a stream, minimize the screen and play Sea of Thieves, it is kinda a cheap move to "boost" views but if it gets me more people in SoT to kill I'm fine with it. I do agree PvE needs an overhaul with content and gear.

@needsmokes Watching a drop does not prevent you from playing the game. You can pull up a stream on your phone as you play. You don’t even need to actually listen to it. You can mute it and sit there for the 20 minutes and collect a bunch of free stuff. I seriously don’t see the problem or why you’re complaining.

@combatxkitty said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@needsmokes Im not too into streamers either but have you tried Captain Falcore? I actually find his streams enjoyable to watch.

Just to be clear Im not a fan of the entire twitch drop thing either. Especially since when I do it most of the time I have to contact Rare for my stuff and yes everything is linked up properly.

It was changed a bit back and you actually have to press a “claim” button on twitch once the watch time is complete. Not sure if this might be your issue.

@daringclarky said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

It speaks volumes when you have to be bribed to watch people play video games when really, you shouldn't be watching at all but playing them haha.

I hate the forced watching of it.
They should allow us to earn then by playing too. 😁

This.

Also throw in how the Obsidian Shipset seems to only be available by watching (and winning) a streamer's giveaway and it makes it clear how much Rare wants us to watch people playing this game.

But I've also wondered if maybe the shipset is used as a way to keep the streamers playing SoT? i.e. "We can guarantee you'll have X number of viewers if you giveaway this set!"

@comrade-molly said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@needsmokes said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

This must be why pirates wear eye patches. They have been forced to gouge their own eyes out watching streamers for a period of time once again!

With so little new content in this update, why oh why are certain items only tied to this horrendous system of unlocking things?

I'm sure most people would much rather play the game they love and earn items the traditional way.

Enough of it.. Add content to your game and stop trying to make us watch this nonsense to earn things.

You're not really doing anything here but insulting some of the most dedicated players, who give the game free advertising.

I don't think people like you realize how dead this game would be if it weren't for content creators doing more to advertise the game than the devs themselves.

You literally don't even have to watch the streamer; just mute the tab (not the player) and leave it open for 30 minutes, then claim your drop.

LOL, it is you and your type that grossly overestimate the amount of "influence" these streamers actually have and their effect on population or sales. Giving them credit for saving the game is but one example of this hubris.

@illbushido305 said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@combatxkitty said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@needsmokes Im not too into streamers either but have you tried Captain Falcore? I actually find his streams enjoyable to watch.

Just to be clear Im not a fan of the entire twitch drop thing either. Especially since when I do it most of the time I have to contact Rare for my stuff and yes everything is linked up properly.

It was changed a bit back and you actually have to press a “claim” button on twitch once the watch time is complete. Not sure if this might be your issue.

Thanks. I have had issues before that. I am wondering maybe now though that extra step has been added if its worth trying again.

@dlchief58 said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@comrade-molly said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

@needsmokes said in Twitch drops again.. 😵😵😵:

This must be why pirates wear eye patches. They have been forced to gouge their own eyes out watching streamers for a period of time once again!

With so little new content in this update, why oh why are certain items only tied to this horrendous system of unlocking things?

I'm sure most people would much rather play the game they love and earn items the traditional way.

Enough of it.. Add content to your game and stop trying to make us watch this nonsense to earn things.

You're not really doing anything here but insulting some of the most dedicated players, who give the game free advertising.

I don't think people like you realize how dead this game would be if it weren't for content creators doing more to advertise the game than the devs themselves.

You literally don't even have to watch the streamer; just mute the tab (not the player) and leave it open for 30 minutes, then claim your drop.

LOL, it is you and your type that grossly overestimate the amount of "influence" these streamers actually have and their effect on population or sales. Giving them credit for saving the game is but one example of this hubris.

I am wondering why the game would be "dead" without streamers.

Im not going to say they do not bring in any new players but I mean "dead"? That is a big statement.

I really dont give a crappola about streamers but then again im from a time where a streamer was something you hung up to decorate for a party. Do I sound old?