This Game's PvP is THE WORST of ANY Mainstream Game On the Market

  • @blackeyethe2nd
    You chose not to scuttle after the initial “loss” you described - so every time you respawned you chose to get spawncamped. The ferry of the damned has a sign right outside the door that explains this

  • @mentimjojo said in This Game's PvP is THE WORST of ANY Mainstream Game On the Market:

    @xultanis-dragon said in This Game's PvP is THE WORST of ANY Mainstream Game On the Market:

    @blackeyethe2nd

    The damage from range weapons is the way it is because this is a cross play game. The second damage from different body parts does more or less damage then console players won't be able to keep up. Damage is kept the way it is for cross play, its not random and it makes complete sense to have it the way they do.

    So first off lets address what happen. You guys went to an outpost that was being camped and players ambushed you and killed you. If they got to your ship before you respawned I'm guessing you parked RIGHT up on the island.

    Mistake Number 1 - Didn't check for mermaids
    Mistake Number 2 - Even if you were too lazy or complacent to check for mermaids you should have sent out a scout with one piece of something as a lure.
    Mistake Number 3 - You parked your ship close enough to the island for the attackers to get to your boat with ease.

    Things I never do - I never roll up on an outpost without first checking for mermaids. I never leave the boat unattended even when turning in loot and always wait for my crew mate to turn in at least 2 items before I start off loading.

    Number of times we've gotten ambushed without us knowing? -- Zero

    Number of times we've run into campers at an outpost? Eh....maybe 10 times in 2 years? Which is why I call shenanigans on players talking about "always" running into campers.

    Just because you die doesn't mean you need to have some kind of advantage to getting your ship back.

    Next thing that most players don't think about. If you know your ship is not currently sinking, then spawn in together. I run into it ALL the time. 2 man duo sloop or even 4 man Galleon.

    You should know the status of your ship when you die. Is the ship sinking? If no, then you ask, can they do anything to sink the ship? If no then freaking spawn in together.

    Its rough but you lost, plain and simple.

    If you check for mermaids none of that would have happened. Even if by SOME RARE chance that the mermaid is bugged, the fact that you didn't check the island is also on you.

    Sorry broski.

    SIDE NOTE Could they change up respawns to make them better? Yes. Should they change respawns to give you an advantage in counter attacking? No.

    Shouldn't get a boost in defending your boat just because you died.

    Well there is actually a 4th mistake my friend, knowing that on Xbox you have longer re-spawn times sometimes(or all the times, i play on PC so idk) they should have sold every hour ish. My crew also sells every x time, mostly because after a certain threshold of loot we no longer feel comfortable :P

    That is not exactly true regarding Xbox reload times. That is only true if they use the internal hard drive or cheaped out and are using a 5400RPM external hard drive. If they used a 7200RPM hard drive or SSD for the game, they would be on par with PC players in terms of respawn times - that's what I do!

  • @mentimjojo

    Respawns are depending on the version of xbox and whether or not they have an SSD, but agree. If they know they play with that type of spawn then they should have been more careful.

  • @blackeyethe2nd

    If that video that was linked is really you and your crew mate then you should have spawned in together and DO NOT JUMP INTO THE WATER. Like why would you do that? For the love of god why would anyone jump into the water with against 2 people ON YOUR SHIP. sigh Broski, seriously.

    I also want to point out, with the way the point was positioned, no, you guys weren't on edge. We've all played this game for a very long time. We can gather a lot of information of what is going on, what has happened, just from simple positioning. Should have just been better and more aware. Hell if you were really scared about the island could have just went to ancient spire or a different outpost. You have choices. Should take advantage of that, instead you probably just didn't want to take anymore time going to another outpost. Whatever the reason, you lost. Let it go, learn from your mistakes, get better at the game.

  • @scallywagmango yeah i honestly feel pretty bad about doing it myself but when youre being attacked by a gally when your on a sloop or brig your hand kinda gets forced

  • @bloodybil ha detto in This Game's PvP is THE WORST of ANY Mainstream Game On the Market:

    @ziobasi said in This Game's PvP is THE WORST of ANY Mainstream Game On the Market:

    @gatorwocky ha detto in This Game's PvP is THE WORST of ANY Mainstream Game On the Market:

    Then stop playing. Thoughts, prayers and all that.

    You're funny or a kid. Just because we don't like pvp mode why should we quit the game?! We just don't play the Arena or skip pvp inside the Adventure, it's just said since it's a pirate game...

    Also if it was a free game is something, but if it's a 40 bucks game with many promises made from developers, I think it's normal that players expect more, especially it is not that we are asking for something really special

    I'd say they've been keeping up on their promises so far, no?

    That's a little shor part of their promises... lel

  • @blackeyethe2nd

    I don't care that I lost all my loot. At this point, I only want PvP to be fixed. All we need is a headshot hitbox.

    That would give PC players an overwhelming advantage... And i'm a PC player.

    No, that's not what we need.

  • The problem is the guy respawned in the same spot right in front of his enemies probably 6 times or more. What's the point of having a respawning at all? They sunk the ship with 1 little hole. They should be more worried about damaging the ship more, which would be the case if respawning was not predictable. The guy literally respawned in front of pace's scope every time. Because that's easier for pace than to actually sink the ship and damage it more. It should not be that way.

  • Giving a couple seconds of invincibility after you respawn would go a long ways, I feel. Spawn killing in this game is definitely unreal, since you can just slash your sword where they might spawn and do damage before they're even put of the black screen.

  • If your playing on xbox theres an option to opt out of cross play from pc players but thats just how the game works everyone deals the same damage and take the ssme damage so just remember its tge player not the gear

  • @crazyt101 If they've got you pinned down that effectively, than you've already lost and it's time to scuttle.

    Don't let them get on board!

    Just last night, I was on an open sloop getting chased by a galleon, and we could hear a swimmer through game chat talking to his crew about how he was about to board us. My crewmate and I watched both ladders. Our opponent got to the top of the ladder, and his last words were, "guys? I'm F*ing dead" as we quickly flanked him and cut him down.

  • x2 guns should never had become a thing, sadly it is and will probably always be even if the makes PvP just awful due to instances like the one you are describing.

  • @xultanis-dragon

    Its about the reload times and the lag when we engage in PvP or even when there is no PvP.... THIS GAME IS THE WORST LAGGING GAME EVER CREATED. Get stuck on the steps on a sloop then get teleported to the anchor... Wanna grab the wheel? Shoot the the mast.

    The game working properly has nothing to do with how good or bad people are. CPU to Xbox load times have nothing to do with how bad or good people are. It just lags. It lags when you're going to do a sword lunge of your own ship. It lags. The game lags. I will literally write that like Bart Simpson on a chalk board if I have to.

    This game lags. Always. Lags. You put down a voyage? Wait 5 seconds to vote cause the lag is coming. Friends ask, even on a PC if they are, “did your game just freeze up?” My reply “yeah, i put down that voyage.” The basic, MOST BASIC, mechanic of this game lags. THE VOYAGE TABLE LAGS! Are you flippin kidding me? Like, thats just nuts.

    The lag is what destroys PvP in this game. The only thing keeping me interested in this game, and most people I think, is the concept. As soon as someone does it better, with 0 lag cause Im using the mechanics of the game, WE’RE ALL OUT.

    And you know it.

    My game says Ive killed 45 of every color at the FOTD... Except for white. 0/50... How? I killed White myself.. My groups killed white.. No count? Okay, they say open up a support ticket! Oh, only if you can find the right link! Muahahahahahahahaha.....

    Xbox players would also enjoy the game more if the frames were locked to match xbox. If it seems like PC players move faster, its cause they actually are. And someone explained how in an earlier response. Xbox is NOT as fast as even the cheapest computer in 2019. If this cross play was a good idea, Rainbow Six Leagues would be doing it too... But whatre they on? PC... and theyre not doing cross play.

    So far I have very little compassion for these developers when people get mad cause of their P I S S poor decision making this entire 2 years. Put codes on the outside of cookies? Put that on the inside so when I pay for it I get it!! The game and developers are just broken.

    And the censorship on this forum is ridiculous too... Cant even get your point across without sounding like you're hitting them with a fluffy pillow. Bunch if little girls. Cant take the heat? Get out of game developing.

  • Alas it has been a major issue for a long time my friend, For what it is worth this is one pirate who lets the opponent move about for a sec before shooting him to keep it a fair fight but I am very very very very VERY very very much in the minority. I would say perhaps in the 0.2 percent of people who do that. (not including those that have yet to discover you can be a douch in this game by spawn camping) also for what its worth if someone spawn camps me and I manage to get out of it and kill him? then its fair game, I will spawn camp him, fix his holes, the works, till i make him quit. Punishment well deserved in that case.

  • I had this issue about a week ago. Me and my friend were just goofing around and a brig came at us, we were on a sloop. We really wernt paying attention much so our guard was down, like I said we were doing nothing of importance. Well one of the brig players boarded our ship and killed us. We didnt really care, we had no treasure but when I spawned back in I could not move, the pirate that boarded was killing me and could not do anything about it. I was killed before I could even pull a weapon out.

    We really do not get in much PvP situations at all so wasnt sure if that was a chronic issue or not but I guess it seems to be.

  • @ziobasi because pvp is integral its pvevp get with it. nobody is going to change the game to accomidate your choices.

  • the griefers in this game are ridiculous... i feel your pain i spend 3 hours last night doing the heart of fire tall tale only to end up having pendragon waving me in delivering the chest of rage from within the trapped riddeled maze and getting blown up by some boom barrels walking to perndragon trying to deliver the chest... as soon as i respawned on the other side of devils roar get server merge so everythingwas for nothing...

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