Remove Free Supplies (gunpowder) from Inactive Forts

@orbit-storm said in Remove Free Supplies (gunpowder) from Inactive Forts:

@verminpup said in Remove Free Supplies (gunpowder) from Inactive Forts:

OP is not asking to remove gun powder barrels from the game, just removing the easy exploit of finding tons for free at every undefended forts on the map.

1. It's not an "exploit".
2. What gives you the impression that the dozens of islands around the map are "defended"? You think a random skeleton or two is going to stop me from acquiring as many barrels as I like?

 

@verminpup said in Remove Free Supplies (gunpowder) from Inactive Forts:

Just make people work for them a little more.

As opposed to encouraging players to proactively protect their ship?

 

@verminpup said in Remove Free Supplies (gunpowder) from Inactive Forts:

... jumping off ship with a gun-powder barrel isn't exactly what I'm assuming the devs wanted 3 ship battles out of 4 to turn into

Presumptuous.

 

@verminpup said in Remove Free Supplies (gunpowder) from Inactive Forts:

If you're really upset by this, it probably means you've been abusing it as well.

Presumptuous and inflammatory.

If my post was inflammatory, you have made a choice to read very selectively through this thread.

My argument is that gunpowder barrel ship fights are not fun and most definitely not what the game advertised. None of the gameplay shown ever pictured crews going at each others with gun powder barrels. They all show cannon battles and boarding actions with swords and guns.

I think it's fair to assume this was one of the multiple oversight (like the current respawn system) that created unexpected behaviors, and as such it would make it kind of an exploit (that is, abusing a flaw in the game for gains).

When I go dig up treasures and find a gun powder barrel, I put it on my ship, and maybe I'll use it. That's fine. This isn't the same as knowing you can go to any fort you see and for sure have more than one barrel.

This could easily be addressed in many ways, and it's beyond me that you folks would feel so strongly against this, and dismiss the OP in such aggressive manner.

• Calling them or me a noob isn't a good answer.
• Saying everyone can do it so it's fair isn't a good answer (OP didn't claim it wasn't fair, it's just not fun).
• Saying it would make the game too easy isn't even relevant, so I don't know where that comes from.
• Saying that "If not on a fort I can go grab it somewhere else so it doesn't change anything" is pretty weird. Less barrels means less people with barrels, pretty simple math.

I don't care how it happens, but I really hope devs adjust the game so that people start having real cannon fights and less boring gunpowder barrels.

Yaaaawn

@lnin0 they do! Lol just gotta search the outposts but they're there!

It's a keg of gunpowder. Not exactly a rare item in pirate-y land. You have an infinite amount of it magically inside your cannons.
There is skill in using a keg to effect, who cares if there's 'skill' in acquiring it?
If your galleon gets sunk by a keg from a sloop, you probably should stop attacking sloops in your galleon.

@lnin0 said in Remove Free Supplies (gunpowder) from Inactive Forts:

Response to Thread Translation: "Why try if I can cheese"

Again, I have no disagreement with GP as a tactic. Have used it myself and never complained if someone used it against me.

However, instead of throwing shade at me, why don't you defend it taking ZERO skill to roll up to an unmanned fort and stock up on suppliers and gun powder...if that is a THING, if that is gameplay, then why not just pile the stuff up at outposts.

They can't do that, that would mean admitting there's room for improvement. They've been slavishly defending SoT since before release. To admit there are issues is to admit that some of the detractors might be right.

Note: I played 4 hours last night. I write this post as someone whose already spent a lot of time on SoT

@lnin0 said in Remove Free Supplies (gunpowder) from Inactive Forts:

Can we get all the supplies removed from inactive forts. It is far to easy for any sloop to drive up, stockpile gun powder without a fight or search and then suicide bomb galleons.

Another solution, and maybe a more fun one, would be to staff in all the forts, not just the active one? At least the sea cannons if nothing else but even better if you can get some ground troops in there as well to slow those would abuse this free stock of supplies.

If they are suicide bombing galleons...

1. why is no one on the ship to see them coming?
2. if they are suicide bombing (like on the bow of their boat) why not just shoot 1 cannon at them and blow them all up and the sloop?

@lnin0 If I may play devil's advocate for a moment. When you stockpile gunpowder barrels you create a very real and present risk to your own ship. One lucky cannonball strike or lighting hit and BOOM, you're done. There is also the risk of enemy boarders using them against you. So I think there is a very balanced trade-off for it.

Also, you don't need to stockpile. One barrel is enough to blow a big enough hole in a ship to sink it. If you use one barrel it's not a guaranteed sink, but if you couple it with cannons from your crew or boarding and disrupting the repair efforts you're golden. The only time I ever really use more than one barrel is if I'm using them as mines to field my escape.

I actually like the empty forts with powder barrels. At present it's the only way I make any real gold solo. I can make 1k - 2k off of one fort from just the powder barrels. Considering every level 30 gold hoarders quest has only given me castaway and seafarers chest, this is a much needed source of gold. When Rare gets around to fixing voyages the unmanned forts will be less significant.

now what to do with those ten be a jerk with them , or cash those puppys in, and collect, a quick easy pick up of them to sell, made my crew more than wasting time going after chickens. we even had a message in a bottle merchant quest found at a sunken ship for a gunpowder barrel that got us an extra thousand .

I've made more $ just getting gunpowder to sale than in the same time i've spent with a crew battling an active fort , when there are other ships trying to get in the action and causing it all to take much longer.

"I gathered ten (10) Gunpowder Barrels by hitting Crescent Isle, Cannon Cove, and Mermaid's Hideaway. I later sailed to Wanderer's Refuge and found another three. I found four alone on Crescent Isle -- two inside the cave and one on either end of the island, near the beaches."

Yes, because GP barrels dont spawn on every other island as well.......should totally help.

I was wondering if other players were doing this too, i've made more $ doing this than going after other quests , that end up with ships chasing you and trolling for your loot, funny in one game another ship came and here is the guy with gunpowder running in to my crews ship, i shot the guy and he goes down and leaves the gunpowder unexpected and since we were at the outpost, i was like thanks for the extra $150 gold, and ran over and sold it, i thought about using it on their ship that was nearby but i was like , thats just a waste, when i knew they had nothing else.

" I actually like the empty forts with powder barrels. At present it's the only way I make any real gold solo. I can make 1k - 2k off of one fort from just the powder barrels. "