@xkavardakx Yep, framerate/loads and other things like visual indications of directional audio, actual cheats, (we know pc guys we know none of you use them) ect.
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@xkavardakx Yep, framerate/loads and other things like visual indications of directional audio, actual cheats, (we know pc guys we know none of you use them) ect.
Well, you bent it ....
Now it's clear. @PCMR4LYFEBOI writing style matches exactly from a recently banned name OrbitalBinkie. Banned, then he creates this new name. always asking "where you play" and excessive use of "lol". Try to be less obvious. To bad there isn't a forum rule on circumventing a ban.
@xkavardakx said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
In general, when they announced cross-play, they promised that XBOX players would be able to choose to play with PC games or not.
where is this in writing or in video form?
@galactic-geek Opposing the option is weird to me, and arguments against the option tend to contradict themselves.
Hopefully, by the time Arena hits the Xbox will be supporting keyboard and mouse. Problem resolved. if you prefer a controller, (like me) no problem.. use a controller. But choose to do so knowing the keyboard and mouse is or will be an option for you very soon.
Hopefully when its enabled people will stop requesting the player base be split. I for one am against it regardless.@li-jratt-li there's more than enough players to support the option of some of them opting out of crossplay. adding the option to opt out doesn't remove crossplay.
@li-jratt-li Thats funny because I believe that I ran into you the other day my galleon was leaving a fort with loot and your galleon tried to pursue us, but I boarded with a barrel and detonated it below decks, killing 2 and then lowered your anchor, effectively ending the pursuit. Then we watched as as sloop in our alliance finished you off.
Should person 3 stand 25 meters closer to the target so he can hit a bullseye?
No Person 1 that is using a sniper riffle should be competing in the sniper riffle tournament while Person 3 that is using bow and arrow should be in the bow and arrow tournament. They should not compete against each other in a generic sharpshooting tournament where any ranged weapon is aok.
@solestone563412 said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@hynieth Ik dacht meer aan "wees niet zo kinderachtig?", maar goed.
Mijn fout. Ik dacht ook dat dit een serieuze discussie over "cross-play" zou worden? Maar als ik verder lees is het bijna allemaal puberaal onzin. Kansloos.... Ik laat het voor wat het is en ga verder.
i used google translate and laughed when I read it.
It is indeed for the most part a fact that I will win a fight over an xbox player. This being said...optional cross play will never make it to the game. The work behind that alone is annoying enough let alone splitting the player base up. Yes the game could survive a split...that being said it will also cut its total life span in half for BOTH platforms. I feel for you I do but, this just is not going to happen.
@bamaskaggs9 said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
It is indeed for the most part a fact that I will win a fight over an xbox player. This being said...optional cross play will never make it to the game. The work behind that alone is annoying enough let alone splitting the player base up. Yes the game could survive a split...that being said it will also cut its total life span in half for BOTH platforms. I feel for you I do but, this just is not going to happen.
We'll stop asking for it the very first time Rare says so. Wanna talk about empty servers? Rare comes out and says that forever there will be no option but to be at a disadvantage for Xbox players and you'll see some empty servers lol.
@musicmee it's the whole thread at this point, content back and forth on the same lines as the Nintendo vs Sega wars!
So far we have had:
- Just buy a PC, everyone knows they are better
- Separate different controller styles (but still buy a PC as they are better)
- Scrap controllers, other factors make PC superior
- Seriously, just go and buy a PC
Not to mention a whole lot of "I'm not listening to you as you have a different opinion, la la la la la!"
Has the whole thing not run it's course? Is it not time for a megathread at the very least?@solestone563412 said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@hynieth Ik dacht meer aan "wees niet zo kinderachtig?", maar goed.
Mijn fout. Ik dacht ook dat dit een serieuze discussie over "cross-play" zou worden? Maar als ik verder lees is het bijna allemaal puberaal onzin. Kansloos.... Ik laat het voor wat het is en ga verder.
Dieser ganze Thread macht mir Kopfschmerzen!
"Gespräche für Erwachsene" ?!Mein deutsch ist nicht gut...
@sshteeve Better yet how about we just all call for Rare to put an end to it by addressing the question.
@pcmr4lyfeboi said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@sshteeve Better yet how about we just all call for Rare to put an end to it by addressing the question.
Rare confirms Sea of Thieves cross-platform play for PC and Xbox One
Rare has confirmed Sea of Thieves will feature cross-platform play across PC and Xbox One.
- https://www.seaofthieves.com/news/design-deep-dive-cross-play
"The first thing we asked ourselves when discussing the opportunity of cross-play in a shared world game is “Why would we segregate players in the first place?”" Ted Timmins
https://gamerant.com/sea-of-thieves-cross-play/
"“I literally sent an email to the studio at 10:00 at night just to talk to them about how magical it was. It was just seamless, you don’t even notice. You’re just there, you’re just playing with people on PC and Xbox One. And that just opens up so many possibilities, doesn’t it?” … “It just opens up so many possibilities, of people being able to play with their friends that maybe they haven’t been able to play with before in multiplayer games. It just knocks down barriers. It knocks down walls.”" Joe Neate
"“We didn’t want a PC community and an Xbox community, we wanted a Sea of Thieves community,” says Duncan." Craig DuncanPass the grog: Rare talks up Sea of Thieves' maiden voyage on Xbox Game Pass - MCV/DEVELOP
With a just week left until launch, MCV talks to studio head Craig Duncan about being first up on Xbox Game Pass and the game’s single cross-play community
You're right... they DEFINITELY need to talk about crossplay given that they haven't AT ALL in the past...
- https://www.seaofthieves.com/news/design-deep-dive-cross-play
@sshteeve Every one of these predates Shrouded Spoils and the resultant influx of toxic players. They hadnt fixed doublegunning either, heh.
And none of these preclude the option to opt out.
@sshteeve lol dude, that's not german but it does prove why they call it Dutch :-P (Deutch = German but Nederlands = Dutch?) Silly Brits. :-P
Small edit here: @PCMR4LYFEBOI Yes it does preclude the option to opt out, you should watch them. People aren't being toxic when they attack you and most of the toxicity I've seen comes from people with Consoles, but I think that's because they don't have a Push to talk option and thus no filter on what comes trough the mic.
At this point you're really just making stuff up and you're looking more and more the fool. Take my advice if you don't have any more points to make just don't.@amancebacabras said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
you're going to get keyboard and mouse support, if thats not enough, I'm really asking mysefl why everyone buy an xbox if its "that bad" to play...
That is the dumbest, strike that, least informed Statement I have read in a while. If you usually play with a Controller, it takes quite a bit of time to learn to play with Keyboard and Mouse. So, why does your infinite wisdom think that this makes things alright?
@pcmr4lyfeboi Sometimes the seas feel barren and I don't see other ships around, and you wan't to split the player base? No thank you. I play with a lot of Xbox players and they kill PC players all the time, never heard one spill salt into the sea about PC players.
@pcmr4lyfeboi said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
LoL, the reactions already to this thread.
OP: I think the best we can hope for is they follow Fortnite's example and segregate by input.
Hear Hear! This actually makes sense!
@barnabas-seadog said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
Why don't we let Rare build it with extensive playtesting and feedback from the Pioneers, before anyone here passes judgement.
It may actually be fun and seamless.
If the base game is not balanced, then there's good reason to be concerned that Arena will not be balance. The irony is that of the devs I've seen stream, none seem to play on PC, and worse yet, None seem too bothered to get "Dumpstered" on. So why would they genuinely care about balancing the game for those who notice it is not balanced?
@zormis Yep, I kill PC players quite frequently as well. But anecdotal accounts aside, its clearly demonstrable that PC has an advantage over Xbox. It doesn't matter that "your friends" and I have managed to overcome those advantages as often as we do, they still exist and shouldn't.
@prodigy-burns said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@barnabas-seadog said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
Why don't we let Rare build it with extensive playtesting and feedback from the Pioneers, before anyone here passes judgement.
It may actually be fun and seamless.
You know something it could very well be no difference, but that begs the question why has Rare not released any stats on fights between Xbox and PC players. Why not at the very least show who's on playing on PC and who's playing on Xbox by virtue of some sort of indicator, so people can genuinely see PC players do not have it any easier, but we don't even get that and no one knows who's playing on what platform. Rare has not taken any of the necessary steps to cull suspicions.
When I have a fight with other Console players it is usually a good, fun, back and forth. There's good opportunity to save your boat, get a few kills and then it's settled. With PC opponents, you're dead before you respawn and can take cover.
@pcmr4lyfeboi If there is an advantage it's slight and not enough to change the game dynamics. When I play on my Xbox the only thing I wish I had is more hot keys, some things are actually easier on Xbox like cannon aiming.
@sprungnickel427 said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@prodigy-burns said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@barnabas-seadog said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
Why don't we let Rare build it with extensive playtesting and feedback from the Pioneers, before anyone here passes judgement.
It may actually be fun and seamless.
You know something it could very well be no difference, but that begs the question why has Rare not released any stats on fights between Xbox and PC players. Why not at the very least show who's on playing on PC and who's playing on Xbox by virtue of some sort of indicator, so people can genuinely see PC players do not have it any easier, but we don't even get that and no one knows who's playing on what platform. Rare has not taken any of the necessary steps to cull suspicions.
When I have a fight with other Console players it is usually a good, fun, back and forth. There's good opportunity to save your boat, get a few kills and then it's settled. With PC opponents, you're dead before you respawn and can take cover.
Instant kill will be fixed when they fix double gunning. You probably lose more to PC players than Xbox players simply because hard core gamers tend to be on PC. You probably run into a lot more kids in xbox which tend to be easier to kill.
@sprungnickel427 No he's just being honest. With KBM support there's not difference between X-bone and PC. Both can vary in specs both have KBM and controller support so what's the difference?
Everyone is complaining about X-Box being so bad that yeah why not wonder why people bought it in the first place. I wonder the same thing. At release it was a whopping €500,- and you got: No backwards compatibility (at that time), no exclusives, no KBM support (at all)
While for €500 you could buy a PC with almost the same specs running Windows 10 capable of all the things an X-Box one can do and more. AND
You wouldnt be paying for On-line, you can use KBM, play all games from most past generations released on PC without a problem, and have cheaper games to boot.So yeah point made, I guess, why buy an X-box one in the first place?
Oh and you can Run office 365 on it and be productive.
@zormis said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@sprungnickel427 said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@prodigy-burns said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@barnabas-seadog said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
Why don't we let Rare build it with extensive playtesting and feedback from the Pioneers, before anyone here passes judgement.
It may actually be fun and seamless.
You know something it could very well be no difference, but that begs the question why has Rare not released any stats on fights between Xbox and PC players. Why not at the very least show who's on playing on PC and who's playing on Xbox by virtue of some sort of indicator, so people can genuinely see PC players do not have it any easier, but we don't even get that and no one knows who's playing on what platform. Rare has not taken any of the necessary steps to cull suspicions.
When I have a fight with other Console players it is usually a good, fun, back and forth. There's good opportunity to save your boat, get a few kills and then it's settled. With PC opponents, you're dead before you respawn and can take cover.
Instant kill will be fixed when they fix double gunning. You probably lose more to PC players than Xbox players simply because hard core gamers tend to be on PC. You probably run into a lot more kids in xbox which tend to be easier to kill.
Nah, doublegun is only part of the the problem, try blocking a decent pc players sword swings from behind you as they jump and turn faster than you can with your controller... try to stop a pc player from running past your barrel and getting aother 5 bananas switching to it and eating it isntantly without stopping like you cant possibly do on xbox....
Dude. stop with the "xbox is just kids, real gamers are all on PC " nonsense.
@ogdirtyape said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
I really wish that someone would tell my PC that it makes me a better player in this game. I have yet to experience all of these advantages over my friends and other players who are playing on xbox...
I rarely comment in the forums, and I am very nearly done coming here to see what people are talking about as it is almost always the same complaints on newly started threads:
@urihamrayne said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
- People complaining that they are getting matched against PLs and that they find it unfair to be fighting someone that played the game longer than they have
- People complaining about EoR
- People complaining that they are getting one shot killed by PC players, despite the fact that it is impossible to do so with any weapon unless you are at 80% hp and get fragged by an EoR bullet.
- People complaining about cheaters, despite not having any proof, or knowledge of which cheats actually exist (the only confirmed cheats that exist are aimbot and wall hacks that can detect items in the world)
- Complaining about playing with children on their team
- Complaining about having afk players in their team
- Complaining about the gamemode not being balanced
- Complaining about no new weapons on the release of a new PvP mode
I see what so many people's issue here is. You know why? I suffer from the same issue! My gaming skills (mad skillz, brah!) are far greater in my head than they are in real life. Once people realize that there are better gamers out there, and that maybe, just maybe, it is not the platform that they are playing on that makes them better. That it is their reaction time/ability to move/ability to aim/coordination/etc. that is just simply better (as I have had to accept), you can really start to appreciate the beauty of this game. There are a number of guides here in the forums with instructions on how to keep an eye on your surroundings. How to keep your boat stocked. How to defeat both players and AI. Play to your strengths people. I hate to use this, as it is my least favorite thing to hear, but "git gud" at PVP or "git gud" at avoiding it. Accept that you have to play to your own strengths, and understand that you are not some super gamer that should never lose unless the other person has an advantage.
I Luv ya Bro, da Trut Hurtz....mang... I'm horrible at this game..
@cpt-vunderbar said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
Not necessary. Xbox is getting (or already has gotten) Keyboard and mouse support, putting Xbox players on par with PC players.
If Xbox players prefer a controller, then they'll just have to adapt I guess. First person games are inherently better on PC to begin with.
Crossplay is fine as is. Adapt, or buy a mouse and keyboard to play the game the way it was clearly intended.
but... but, you, you're Cpt Vunderbar.... It's a lock for you....velcome, bien venue, das is Guud ya? You're forgetting the learning curve for the controller subspecies to learn K+M to a 360 no scope level. Takes decades to perfect.
@hynieth said in Optional Crossplay MUST Happen for Arena:
@sprungnickel427 No he's just being honest. With KBM support there's not difference between X-bone and PC. Both can vary in specs both have KBM and controller support so what's the difference?
Everyone is complaining about X-Box being so bad that yeah why not wonder why people bought it in the first place. I wonder the same thing. At release it was a whopping €500,- and you got: No backwards compatibility (at that time), no exclusives, no KBM support (at all)
While for €500 you could buy a PC with almost the same specs running Windows 10 capable of all the things an X-Box one can do and more. AND
You wouldnt be paying for On-line, you can use KBM, play all games from most past generations released on PC without a problem, and have cheaper games to boot.So yeah point made, I guess, why buy an X-box one in the first place?
Oh and you can Run office 365 on it and be productive.
"Why buy an Xbox anyway" is not a relevant response for this thread. Its off topic. People are going to be playing this game on Xbox and should not be penalized for doing so.
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