Think about it. A couple weeks ago we kept asking for flags... they happened. Players asked for the rainbow flag and it happened.
Views of the flag aside, can we take a moment and acknowledge that rare has put in 2 community asked for items?
So lets get more flags. I'd like to see country of origin flags. All the basic colors. You know all the flags ever.
P.s. more jolly roger variations.
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@captain-coel Oh dear, please not until filter options are implemented. The last thing I need is having to scroll through hundreds of flags each session start.
@ant-heuser-kush said in Why we should all be happy about the Rainbow Flag.:
@bran-the-ent said in Why we should all be happy about the Rainbow Flag.:
@captain-coel I'd love to see more flags - but not ones representing real countries.
So I can't fly a Philippines flag just because I want to on my solo sloop? Good thing I can fly it in my room.
I think you should be allowed to, but only as long as you go solo. Sloop and room! :P
@dutchdeadschot Because this isn't supposed to be the real world. There is no mention of England, Spain, Portugal, or any of the other countries closely associated with the Golden Age of Piracy in the game Lore, is there?
@dutchdeadschot said in Why we should all be happy about the Rainbow Flag.:
@bran-the-ent I don’t agree with the flag whatsoever, in any way. But if Rare is going to keep it, as they said they are, they opened it up, this whole flag business. This whole Pandora’s box. Let’s get all the flags out now.
Exactly. As I said all the flags regardless on how anyone feels about them. I'm personally very indifferent I just want a list of flags. So please everyone post what you want and j will consolidate ut as a master list in my OP.
@captain-coel I'm honestly just tired of politics and social issues being brought into the world of gaming. Why was a rainbow flag needed in the first place...I don't care if you're gay, straight or bi(whatever honestly), but come on. I'm tired of world problems and issues being brought into the gaming world
@captain-daedra that's my point. I dont want to discuss politics or religion. The flag is special right now because it's one of 2 flags in game with a real world application. The other being the Jolly Roger. I want so many flags that people can fly anything anytime that regardless of personal view points you might be happy.
@dutchdeadschot thank you. I'm just tired of the animosity about a virtual flag. And the only way to fix this "Pandora's Box" or "Can of Worms" is to blow it all the way with flag saturation.
My new battle cry.
FLAG SATURATION FOR ALL!!
@captain-coel I think you missed my point. Why bring in "real world" applications, especially social issues to a video game. I feel like every company is incorporating or pushing certain agendas, and they should just not involve social issues or politics at all. Especially for a pirate game lol
Like many others, yes I’m in favor of more content and a diverse pallet of customization (such as flags), but I’d much rather that the content pertain to Sea of Thieves and it’s self-contained world rather than drawing parallels to current events. Creating in-game content that caters to any such real world interest group is only going to create discorse amongst an already fleeting fanbase that has a melting pot of viewpoints and opinions.
My input and solutions to the current debacle: Number 1 - just keep said item in game until the month it highlights ends. Therefore you promote a positive message during its celebration during the time others will likely observe. Therefore, other limited time event/awareness/holiday flags can be put into the game. Number 2 - Just alter the colors of the rainbow flag to deviate it from what many associate it with IRL.
While I don’t see the latter going through as per Rare specifically stating its purpose in-game, it still seems to have caused more harm than good amongst all pirates.
Also, as a flag suggestion OP, how about one of each trader and their symbols as well as purple and teal flags to match with some of the level 50 hulls & sails?
@ant-heuser-kush said in Why we should all be happy about the Rainbow Flag.:
@bran-the-ent said in Why we should all be happy about the Rainbow Flag.:
@captain-coel I'd love to see more flags - but not ones representing real countries.
So I can't fly a Philippines flag just because I want to on my solo sloop? Good thing I can fly it in my room.
Every room in me house there be a Dutch flag and/or symbol of some kind
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@dutchdeadschot
I agree. They should support ALL beliefs
Ie
Confederate flag
Germany's socialst WWII Flag (can't say the real name here)
Soviet Union Flag
Etc
Etc
Etc
Of course they are catering to public relations and not people's beliefs. So this won't happen...
@captain-coel Rare were always going to include "custom flags". That was stated in videos prior to game launch.
Yes it's good to have awareness flags but if you're going to only drop one in a game then why bother? If you're going to give two ice creams to a school of children, it's either all or none.
If it is that important to them to bring real life awareness flags into the game then they should have waited until they could drop at least a half dozen at a time.
There is also the question of politics, religion or anything controversial being placed in any game.
Dozens of life crippling health awareness events have passed since launch day, why didn't they get a mention? Cancer alone effects everybody, either some people themselves or someone you know.
Why wait until gay awareness week to drop a rainbow flag into the game?
I have nothing against the flag and we flew it all game session yesterday whilst looking for silly highchairs. But to have one (non-life threatening) awareness flag and not any other awareness flags is in itself a form of bigotry. Which funny enough was the main argument used against anyone who opposed the introduction of the flag in this game. Go figure.
@sargent-sully Because, while based on the Golden Age of Piracy, this game isn’t set in that world. It may draw from aspects of it - fleur de lis, for example, but it makes no sense to use actual real life representations of countries that do not exist in the world of the game.
@captain-coel said
So please everyone post what you want and j will consolidate ut as a master list in my OP.
@glannigan sagte in Why we should all be happy about the Rainbow Flag.:
You can’t even see the flags.
They need to be bigger
LOL, that too. You can see them with the scope easily but yeah I also have the impression that they are tiny as fârt.
@captain-daedra said in Why we should all be happy about the Rainbow Flag.:
@captain-coel I'm honestly just tired of politics and social issues being brought into the world of gaming. Why was a rainbow flag needed in the first place...I don't care if you're gay, straight or bi(whatever honestly), but come on. I'm tired of world problems and issues being brought into the gaming world
@captain-daedra They are hardly being brought into the game, get a grip. Rare haven't made a big deal of it they have just added it into the game for those who want it and to show support (perhaps they have lgbt people working in their company for instance). You clearly DO care if you are making this post, so quit your little corner of homophobia and ignore it. If you truly didn't care you'd ignore it and wouldn't purchase it - this doesn't effect you at all. But to actually go onto the forum and say I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT BUT WHY.. says something else to me ;)
I'm not religious but if they want to add religious themed flags go for it, or whatever else.. if I'm not bothered by it I'll just not purchase it like any normal person, but more diversity in a game is not a bad thing. ;)
@angrycoconut16 Was there a lack of diversity in the game before the flag was introduced?
As someone who is a supporter of and an advocate for the LGBTQ community, I feel this was just a bad idea. They introduced an issue into the game that didn’t exist in the game before. Adding the inclusive article to the Pirate Code was good - that’s to do with player behavior, but the flag was not a good idea. People didn’t pay $60 to have a real life issue plopped into a world where it didn’t exist. Everyone is equal in the game. The game allows you to choose and dress your avatar as you see fit - which is as close to the issue as the game gets. Putting the flag in unnecessarily builds a wall in the community. Whereas, prior to this, you would have people joining crews and playing in harmony without having to address beliefs regarding sexual orientation and gender identity, now you will have people leaving crews because they don’t believe in the same things - simply because a Pride Flag is raised on that ship.
Basically, the devs created a social issue in the game that didn’t really exist in the game before.
Being supportive of the LGBTQ community is great - that’s what Pride is all about. But, there are many oppressed minorities in the world; Sea of Thieves has chosen to represent one of them in-game... the only representation of a real life community in-game, in fact. Whereas the movement is about everyone being equal and having the same rights and privileges regardless of sexual orientation and gender identity, the devs have chosen to give a distinct privilege to the LGBTQ community - in a game that has nothing really to do with real life social issues. So, the move just feels counter to what the movement is supposed to be about and creates a divide that the movement is about removing.
There were many ways for the devs to celebrate the LGBTQ community without alienating some of their playerbase - players who didn’t pay $60 for an overt comment on social/political/religious issues regarding sexual orientation and gender identity in the world of a game that had nothing to do with those real life issues.
