4 Players on a Sloop

@lobosolo
Again you fail to understand simple FACTS. The scenario you keep portraying is one where a highly skilled sloop encounters and unskilled galleon. And you (Mod Edited) simply cannot see any further than that exact scenario.

@toastywrath
I am an adult who will let you know when you post untrue silliness

@zeo
Oh gotcha so the game mechanics aren't actually in the game. Good to know

@griefer-tactics I’m not saying you aren’t. I’m telling you that your acting like a child. Stop insulting people personally and put some actual facts in your posts.

Here is another example -
4 Man Sloop VS 4 Man Galleon - Grief argues they are the same

1 player on each side dies in combat

3 Man Sloop VS 3 man galleon - Still the same?

Another dies on each side right after, both ships taking on water.

2 Man Sloop (Sinking) vs 2 Man Galleon (Sinking) - Still the same?

There is just zero reason to take a galleon if 4 man cap is the same. No logical player would do it. It would just be called Sea of Sloops.

@personalc0ffee
Oooooooooooh no he didn't 00
He reported me heeeeellllppp!!!
At least you know when to quit right

@lobosolo sea of sloops made me laugh lol

@griefer-tactics said in 4 Players on a Sloop:

@toastywrath
The sloop cannot force the galleon to maneuver if the galleon is simply faster in a straight lin. Holy damn this is ridiculous

yes it can, have you ever played this game?🤣

@toastywrath
Again and again I've listed facts, it's clear you are blind to them

@griefer-tactics

That is a personal attack and baseless. Try to refrain from trying to seem like the only intellectual in the room. I assure you that you are not. But your motivations of trying to argue for the galleon in order to get what you want (4 man sloop) are pretty obvious.

I expect that we will see you and your crew exclusively sailing galleons on launch?

:)

@griefer-tactics except you haven’t...I’ve read all the posts in this thread. And your ignorance of naval tactics and game mechanics is apparent. Not only have you not posted facts you avoid valid arguments resorting to making fun of people or calling them names.

Grow up man...

@uvg-reign
You have one scenario in your mind which makes up your entire picture of what ship to ship combat is. Broaden your horizons

lol to be honest I don't really know where Rare got that random number from but don't think I've seen a single person ask for a 4 person sloop before now (3 yes but not 4). You guys sure they are even reading the forum posts at this point? Seemed genuinely surprised at the request of fishing as well during the ama which everyone has seen posted a million and a half times all over social media. At this point I don't think it really matters if you agree or disagree with them unless you do something drastic to get their attention.

@personalc0ffee said in 4 Players on a Sloop:

@aye-manda-panda said in 4 Players on a Sloop:

lol to be honest I don't really know where Rare got that random number from but don't think I've seen a single person ask for a 4 person sloop before now (3 yes but not 4). You guys sure they are even reading the forum posts at this point? Seemed genuinely surprised at the request of fishing as well during the ama which everyone has seen posted a million and a half times all over social media. At this point I don't think it really matters if you agree or disagree with them unless you do something drastic to get their attention.

It's pretty simple, really. Rare is going to make the game they want to make and they are going to do the things that fit with their developer vision. They aren't making the game people are telling them to make. They don't need people's help making the game, this isn't some Early Access thing.

Anyone that thinks that by sitting here and screaming the loudest, is going to get them to compromise that developer vision; well they are a fool.

Highly voted up topics or tons of posts will not get Rare to do anything but read it. That doesn't mean it was even considered, however.

Simply put, Rare is going to do what Rare wants to do.

Maybe, and its a 50/50 chance it will work. Depends if the majority of their buyers will want their game they envisioned. Something like that will only become obvious after a few months of it being released. On one hand it may end up gathering a huge group of loyal fans that keep it going forever such as games like skyrim did by following one vision and not swaying away from it due to community out cry. Or they may just fall flat on their face and realize that the loudest ones represented the majority. Either is just as likely as the other in a consumer driven market. Time will tell :)

@personalc0ffee
I think Rare is making a great game, so not trying to "help" them per se. I believe that this topic started because the devs mentioned on the Reddit AMA that they were "considering 4man sloops". It was in response to a question about why the sloop had a brig below deck since no one could ever be voted into it.

So this topic is theoretical and in response to their comments. We were just discussing that if they added what they mentioned on the AMA...it would potentially break other things or need some mechanical changes to accommodate it.

But I do agree on the yelling part. Never helpful. :)

@personalc0ffee
Oh ok. My apologies.

a galleon has multiple drawbacks, and some not really important advantages.

Drawback:
slow anchor
slower sails rising (3x insted of 1)
huge turnradius
huge target, aka ez to hit.

Advantage:
you can carry 100 addidtional cannonballs (who used more than 100 in a fight?)
faster sailing with the wind
4 cannons

what i am not sure is, how many holes a galleon or a sloop can have. i noticed that holes in the middle deck of galleon only matter, if you already have more then 50% water in the boat. in the sloop you just get a lower amount of water if the hole is in the middle deck.

i think a 4 man sloop needs at least the same turnradius as a galleon to be fair.

surely if they do go with 4 can go in a sloop they will make it 5-6 can go in a galleon?