Opposite of 'Fanboy'?

  • Look Behind You
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    Cant help but notice that some people that have problems/issues/concerns about the game, seem to respond (often indirectly but sometimes directly...) to those that say they enjoy it as 'fanboys'....I understand the phrase and have no problem with the phrase itself but the derogatory manner in which it is ultimately used as dismissing posts/comments does irk me a little.

    So, I wondered, what is the opposite of 'fanboy'?

    As far as the internet can tell me, there is no word or phrase I could use that wouldn't violate the terms of the site, the 'Pirate Code' or even common decency.

    I am more than happy to be enlightened, but please, keep it in crayon as according to various posts I am "deluded", "blind" and various swear words that had to be removed.

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    Badvocater?

  • Natsu v2
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    A critical consumer, which is what everyone should be.

  • Ethnine
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    @triheadedmonkey an adult?

    I mean if you ask the internet something you will likely get an answer you won't like lol, that has been my experience at least. I only see a fanboy as someone that believes wholeheartedly that there is absolutely nothing wrong, and everything is just fine as it is. Which obviously isn't true at all. I am far too old, and have far too many responsibilities to throw money at a game that I hope becomes something amazing when there's clearly some early signs of trouble.

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    @natsu-v2 any reason why that is less derogatory than 'fanboy'? ....again the term itself isn't the problem but the usual ignorance/blanket statement that is associated with it when the conversation inevitably descends into name calling?

    I don't mean to call you out personally but you happened to respond.

    the point is, fanboy is meant as an insult. I would like to think that everyone here is a critical consumer. some like the game more than others. some have different concerns than others, but there is no reason for insults. if the criticism is constructive (as should be encouraged) why bother adding insults? kind of undermines the point and basis of the criticism if it descends to petty name calling?

    as always, this is my personal opinion and is no better/worse than others

  • Natsu v2
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    @triheadedmonkey There's nothing derogatory about being a "huge fan" of a game. I'm a huge fan of SoT. The term "fanboy" implies someone who unabashedly defends a game without any logic. They are essentially yes-men that act like they're on the payroll. They defend to death everything, even bad qualities. And when the developer makes a change to respond to critical feedback, the fanboys typically act like they are in favor, even though their past responses made it seem like everything was perfect before.

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    @ethnine yeah, I googled opposite of fanboy too and didn't get a decent answer.

    I'd like to think (majoritively anyway...) that I have been fair in my comments. I like this game...a lot...but I still haven't pre-ordered. I'm not overly concerned, if anything I have probably already had my money's worth already compared to previous game experiences, but still, but money IS an object to me for gaming. As I have said, I enjoy the game as it is so far....and that to me is enough to warrant the spend. I don't buy a lot of games very often. I pre-ordered the Division based on the Beta and was disappointed...I just can't see that happening here based on my personal experiences.

    but again, I don't understand the application of the term 'fanboy' to someone that simply enjoys the game (like me)

    again not a personal attribution, but it has happened

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    @natsu-v2 correct, the term "huge fan" has no negative connotations, but 'fanboy' does. it's hard to quote other examples of phrases that can be misconstrued/misused/reappropriated without violating the site/forum rules and filters but there are a few. again the point was, I or any other of the 'fanboys' seemingly have no reply other than 'I'm not a fanboy, I just like the game'

    I do understand the criticism of the game but people that like it aren't automatically a*s kissers.

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    think my main point is....constructive criticism of the game = good.... descending to the point of petty name calling for the sake of chewing out others for their opinions = pointless

    @Ethnine @Natsu-v2 the fact that you are the only two so far to reply (and provide cogent replies) means you aren't the real problem! :D

    I have no problem with criticism of the game, but back it up! don't just chuck out names you have heard on the internet!

  • LogansDadToo
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    @triheadedmonkey
    Easy, the opposite of FanBoy is HaterGirl

  • stem589

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    Some are trolls, but others are players simply offering critic of the game.

  • Ethnine
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    @logansdadtoo that made me laugh entirely too much :).

    Honestly a fanboy is normally someone that isn't open minded or accepting to criticism, normally concerning a game or some other form of art. I think Google puts it something like: "To behave in an obsessive or overexcited way." So I suppose the opposite would be a Debby Downer?

    Hell I don't know. I do know you need a yin and a yang though, you can't have too much of one or the other. There has to be some balance. I tend to be a bit more of the critical type when a game clearly has flaws, but you also have to have those that see beyond those flaws.

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    @logansdadtoo I often think "I'd like to punch you" until I realise ...I probably would have said exactly the same thing haha.....then I want to punch myself! :D

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    @stem589 critics, I can take, as long as they have logical backup.....just 'dropping' fanboy irks me (yes I close quoted dropping...I'm 35 and uncomfortable using 'slang and ting init')
    haha

  • Ziljon
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    I think people drop the fanboy comment when people hijack feedback/concern threads by saying said feedback/concern being invalid cause they themselves doesn't feel it's a problem. Such comments are totally irrelevant in a thread about a personal concern/feedback and rather annoying. That is at least my experience, I could be wrong.

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    @triheadedmonkey seems to me most times ive seen/used the term fanboy used on this forum was made as a general statement about people who had no valid responses to fair criticism of the topic at hand, but were blindly defending the game based on solely their opinion, and usually saying much more derogatory things like the person with the actual feedback is a whiny entitled brat, because they want the game to have depth and quality in its mechanics. We all have said and thought "i wonder if this will be game of the year." If we want that to be the case it needs more to it, and people who are just content to get what they get shouldnt even be posting in a forum for constructive feedback to improve the game to be honest. Like i said in another post, some people can play solitaire all day and love it, that dosnt make solitaire game of the year, and if someone was to make a new better card game, you wouldnt be like "well we have solitaire why dont you stop being so entitled!"

    If the opposite of fanboy to you means things you cant post here, your missing the point of the posts that you read that word in.

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    @a-cranky-eskimo I want to agree with you, because 'entitled brat' (or similar) does get used fairly often....and I do quite like you Solitaire analogy but, if I may, is there any reason (assuming feedback is constructive) to say someone is a fanboy? (or anti-fanboy...whatever that is)

    fan would do...its even shorter....but again, there is no reason to....I want to say attack but that's way too strong and I'm starting to think I'm coming across as an oversensitive lettuce (really not the word I was looking for..)....everyone has an opinion, but metaphorically calling into question the promiscuity of someone's mother (off topic but hopefully the point works) helps no one. same goes for saying someone is a fanboy. adds nothing to the actual convo other than a bit of venom that isn't needed.

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    I seriously hope I haven't come across as a total tool with this, was just hoping some people would realise that criticism can happen without the insults!

    I swear like a trooper for no reason, almost all day....but I can control what I type...even have delete :)

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    @triheadedmonkey i think our definitions of fanboy are different, but i hear you about it being pointless based on it being perceived as an insult, To me its just a concise way to say when someone is blindly defending anything, and like i said calling someone who has raised valid concerns entitled or a brat and that maybe the game isnt for them, while not raising valid answers other than its a difference of opinion is more pointless, and more dismissive in my mind. The "fanboy" knew their opinion was different when they read the post, if they thought the game was in a good place already they could just state that simply. The term imo is rarely used before this scenario occurs. Emotion filled defensive responses for things that should be improved are counterproductive to any attempt at improvement. Fanboy is a very tame insult as far as insults go.

    Edit: oh i have a sailor mouth too, and no worries your a hardened pirate in this communities eyes haha! I agree though i speak so differently in text than when i speak, its night and day tbh. I dont use big words like a stupid science B**** irl. Lol

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    @a-cranky-eskimo aye, tame or otherwise its still an insult. could say game is p**p

    or game is p**p you [insult]

    the extra [insult] helps no one

  • LogansDadToo
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    @triheadedmonkey said in Opposite of 'Fanboy'?:

    I seriously hope I haven't come across as a total tool with this, was just hoping some people would realise that criticism can happen without the insults!

    I swear like a trooper for no reason, almost all day....but I can control what I type...even have delete :)

    You always come across as a complete tool m8 ;)
    Why change now!!

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