No Voice/Text coms in arena already causing issues

Well, to be honest Arena wasn't meant for you to TDM in it. It's not a pirate sandbox like the adventure mode. You're only using it that way because it's the easiest way to do it atm. My best advice would be to coordinate with others in order to make an alliance server of sort (should be way easier than in adventure). Maybe the custom servers will help you in the future too.

In this situation (not enough tdm player to make an alliance server), you're faced with a choice : either playing Arena as intended if players don't leave you be, or teaming up to spawncamp them in order to express your displeasure. The choice is yours however, Rare doesn't force your hand at all.

Oh you poor thing.
TDM lobbies are causing issues to players who play arena as intended also to practise naval. Not really fun when 3 out of 4 or 5 ships go to another island and "just want to be left alone". Imagine if this applied to adventure also. Can't go after people who are just digging up their chests on an island. Any disruption will be met with spawn camping.
Before you had a voice chat and told everyone to just dodge the lobbies if they don't like what you guys are doing.

I will make it my business in arena to disrupt any TDM I see from now on and farm my cannonball commendations on tdm boats. If you are good enough to spawncamp me then good on you. I will keep scuttling and coming back. If you don't like it dodge the lobby.

@pvekilla420 said in No Voice/Text coms in arena already causing issues:

@john-arkham It's a PVP sandbox.... lets look at how rare describes arena

"Experience the thrill of competition and engage in explosive encounters in The Arena – a place dedicated to contests of seafaring skill on the Sea of Thieves! The proudest pirates love to show off their abilities and The Arena is the ideal place for it. Test your mettle in this dedicated game mode - either in Duo Sloops for teams of two, or Galleons for larger crews.
COMPETITION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS
The Arena is a new game mode designed to complement the existing Sea of Thieves adventure. It allows players to dive straight into on-demand competitive play with other crews for more action-focused encounters. Combining higher-stakes teamwork and strategy, The Arena provides a unique gameplay experience and a new way to enjoy the world of Sea of Thieves."

There is no mention in there on how you are meant to play arena... If you can find me something from rare explaining that arena has to be played a specific way then please show me because I can't find anything.... Arena is a PVP sandbox... The only rules being, no cheating or teaming to win aswell as the COC.... In fact the more you read the descriptions rare give the more TDM makes sense....

The issue I have is rare claimed they did this to make it a more welcoming experience for newer players....But it is going to do the opposite, they are just going to get spawn camped for the entire game and never touch the game mode again

LOL, the scoring alone tells you how to play and win the mode - and TDM is not a victory requirement. Sandbox description applies to Adventure, not so much Arena which is a competitive mode by design with specific scoring to fulfill the victory conditions.

And in regards to the description you quoted to justify this- lets specifically take the last line "Combining higher-stakes teamwork and strategy, The Arena provides a unique gameplay experience and a new way to enjoy the world of Sea of Thieves." Seems to me that TDM is NOT unique gameplay since that has been around in games pretty much since the advent of FPS games.

No sympathy for those not playing the mode as intended and abusing others till they quit because they are not playing in their non-sanctioned events. Custom servers would be a much better place to do this when they are released.

@pvekilla420

a place dedicated to contests of seafaring skill on the Sea of Thieves!

Contest of SEAFARING skill. Seemed clear enough to me. ^^'

@pvekilla420 I also have no sympathy for Alliance servers and they need to go the way of the dodo for their cheesing of the system. Especially when they have to resort to spawn camping in order to get their way on a server, poor form there.

Fact remains TDM is NOT the way the Arena was meant to be played so no sympathy or support for those that do so and interrupt the normal game design of that competitive mode, in effect denying those their opportunity to earn their achievements/commendations.

They really need to release custom servers, we've been waiting for ove 6 months. Also they must be almost finished because twitch streamers seem to have access to working custom servers for the past six months, so idk why they haven't released them for hire yet.

You’re acting like you guys are the ones playing arena how it should be, when in reality they are the ones playing the objective. Rare clearly doesn’t advocate for TDMs and wants people to play the objective, which seems to be happening.

TDMers should be banned for not playing the mode as intended and ruining the experience for players who are doing so.

@pvekilla420
I personally would have no problem with that either.

@pvekilla420 I've played arena enough to be spawn camped the entire game. No tears shed over it even when I get dumpstered. Im a big boy, I can take it.

Trough all of this arrogance tho you still fail to see that you are ruining lobbies for everyone else who just wants to naval and you are taking the high horse here by saying "Well we don't wanna spawn camp noobies :sadface:".

There is an easy solution. Sink them and get on with your TDM. You are talking like your hands are tied. Please. This is laughable.

If it's okay for you to do what you want then it's okay for everyone else to do what they want also. TDMers aren't above everyone else. I guess these days elitism and TDMing goes hand to hand.

@pvekilla420 so what I am reading here is that players are trying to play arena as ot was designed, and in response TDMers are griefing them. I point tou to a direct quote from the code of conduct:

"Repeated activity designed to ruin the experience of another player or crew constitutes harassment. "

Sounds to me like the problem isn't that people can't communicate. The problem is a bunch of jerks that think it's ok to try to hound a team out of the arena because they are not playing like you want them to.

@pvekilla420 said in No Voice/Text coms in arena already causing issues:

@william-flint

@pvekilla420 so what I am reading here is that players are trying to play arena as ot was designed, and in response TDMers are griefing them. I point tou to a direct quote from the code of conduct:

"Repeated activity designed to ruin the experience of another player or crew constitutes harassment. "

So technically here the attacking ship is harassing the TDMERS.... Is TDMING banned? No... so in that case the other players are ruining the TDM experience

TDM is NOT the game mode! facepalm

Sounds to me like the problem isn't that people can't communicate. The problem is a bunch of jerks that think it's ok to try to hound a team out of the arena because they are not playing like you want them to.

The TDMers aren't engaging with them at all, so the hounding is coming from the players who are spoiling the TDM...

See above! facepalms harder, breaks nose

@pvekilla420 a dit dans No Voice/Text coms in arena already causing issues :

So technically here the attacking ship is harassing the TDMERS...

They're actually not. They're playing Arena has it is intended : a Seafaring contest (it says so in the mode presentation). Last time that I checked TDM isn't a Seafaring contest. =/

Otoh, the TDM'er that you describe are teaming up in order to harass someone playing the game mode as intended (a Seafaring contest). For the explicit purpose of making them quit the game.

That's nowhere near the same thing.

Beside, they shutdown means of communications in Arena in order to decrease the amount of reports they get from that mode since they don't want to invest resources in it anymore. That's pretty much it.

Easy fix...
Dont play TDM, play arena as it was made for.

@jadescissors32 said in No Voice/Text coms in arena already causing issues:

@realstyli TDM literary is exactly what Arena mode is.
TDM = Team Death Match
in Arena team Lucky Rover fights other teams there is nothing there saying about using only cannons. If Rare did not want people to use weapons in the Arena they would not put them there.

LOL, get a dictionary and look up the definition of "literally" since it is obvious you have no clue as to the meaning of the word.

Arena is NOT a TDM, it is an objective based mode more similar to Capture the Flag or even King of the Hill to some extent. You are not scored by who gets the most kills in a round, which IS the definition of a deathmatch. TDMers are NOT playing the competitive mode as designed/intended so deserve no special consideration and rightly should be reported for griefing/harassment if they spawnkill others with the intent to drive them from the server for wanting to play the mode AS IT WAS INTENDED.

@jadescissors32

1. It's not TDM, as you can earn far more points from means other than killing other players. Deathmatch is not the focus of the mode.
2. If it were a TDM mode, you wouldn't even have to ask other players to "TDM? TDM? TDM?" constantly in the chat, as it would be a given.
3. Driving players from Arena by harassing them for trying to play the mode as intended is what has contributed (along with the poor matchmaking) to the fall in popularity of Arena.

@jadescissors32 said in No Voice/Text coms in arena already causing issues:

@dlchief58 What other objective you are talking about ? The only objective in Arena is to destroy other teams with weapons provided and come up at the top of the ledger at the end of the round, that's why 1st place gets most points. People who jump to fort to do weapons only simply don't care about first place in overall but care about first place in weapons only.
This is not Capture the Flag because there is no flag to capture, its not like there is one chest that somebody has to hold on to until end of round, and its not king of the hill because there is no hill to defend or capture.
Literally its Team Death Match just like in other games. I think there is a lot of jealousy here from reflex impaired crowd. We are at the fort because we know how to use cannons which you will find out when you attack our ships. I mean heck I probably have killed more players with cannons than weapons. So either join in or do something else when you see people at the fort. Or don't complain when fort crowd is testing their skills on you. And if you really gets annoying even scuttle won't help you because two will bucket your ship so it stays afloat.

LOL, as I said you need a dictionary. Deathmatch only scores player kills....PERIOD. There are a variety of ways to score in Arena, making your whole supposition moot.

You people are not playing the competitive mode as intended and harassing those who do in a mode that it is already difficult to get into matches, yet you refuse to see the problem due to your own selfish desires. Your admission of ignoring all other scoring options as much as confirms everything I said - you are not playing the competitive mode as intended and harassing those who do.

Your arrogance and attempts to belittle others that disagree with you is not very mature, and shows you really have no basis for your argument so are attempting to gaslight those that disagree by somehow belittling their skill, without ever actually encountering anyone of us online.

@pvekilla420 Rare removed the voice and chat because Arena is a huge problem for SoT as a whole. Some players are ruining the mode for all the others. Tdm'ers continue to ruin Arena by doing TDM, most of the bad language, racist language, and poor sportsmanship are caused by encounters with TDM'ers. Keep doing this, spawn camp and do not use Arena this way intended and Rare will probably shut it down entirely. I can not imagine they will support this mode much longer if they see new players treated this way. This is not a pro competitive game, its a cartoon pirate game, with lots of younger players. Take this attitude to play Rust or COD. They are sending us a message by not updating, and turning off coms. I don't think you TDM'ers are receiving..........

@jadescissors32 LOL, whatever it takes to justify yourself I see.

It is most certainly not a deathmatch mode no matter how you try to justify it and ignore the FACTS and definitions that counter it.

Here is the definition of team deathmatch since you don't know it either:

A competitive mode found in multiplayer shooter games in which teams of competitors (usually 2) attempt to assassinate each another. If there are more than two teams, the variant term multi-team deathmatch may be used.

Sounds to me like the scoring DOES make a difference and is dependent upon killing the other player to score points. So Arena is not deathmatch by definition, you guys are playing it wrong AND guilty of harassment for every player you force out of a legitimate match...and deserve to be reported each and every time.

And honestly, I probably wouldn't have a big issue with it if the population of the mode wasn't so low and this sort of play was not as prevalent (as in you could actually get in a decent Arena match playing by the rules as laid out). But I'd still be reporting anyone that spawn killed with the purpose to drive them from a match, as that is quite plainly harassment and griefing - no matter how you try to justify it.

@jadescissors32 This attitude is the reason why Arena will go away sooner rather than later. They shut down comms and no longer are supporting any more updates for Arena. Are you paying attention to the message ! Your statement about reflex impaired something and cannon threats are giving away how you treat fellow players when doing something you disagree with.

@jadescissors32 not policing the game brother, just making sure you all are receiving the devs message in Arena. They shut down your communication, who do you think caused that ? They are no longer going to support Arena, why ? 99% of the SoT players could care less about either, including myself. New players ARE treated that way in Arena, thats why they shut down your Comms ! Again for all you Team Death Guys, this is a cartoon pirate game lol. Did you just throw out wannabe, are you 10 years old or just pretending.