Hello Rare! When I was a little kid I played Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie. Those two are so special to my heart. I absolutely adored those games. Very awesome times playing them! Just had to say that. I would like to kindly give some feedback. I don't know if you guys are willing to do this, but here goes. I tried playing solo today and got griefed over and over while trying to finish the shroudbreaker quest. I understand the concept of this game but I love playing solo sometimes. I don't know, it would be great to have a solo world available where you can hire AI team-mates or not even. Just a solo world, with just one person in it. I really really love this world, but its really annoying when I'm trying to do a quest and you get greifed over and over and over again, where you can't really play unless it's with other people. I don't like to feel forced to play with other people. But if PVPVE is the foundation upon which this game is built, I understand. It would just be really really REALLY awesome to play in a solo world. I also have a baby and can't talk on my mic at night. And playing with other people can be a problem because they may not want to do the quest I want to. But if PVPVE is the only way you guys wish to present your game, that's your guys choice. Just saying, I think a solo world would be AMAZING. And if you guys can't do that, allowing for hireable AI to help defend your character would be nice. Gun upgrades would be cool to, if you play alone and you have a higher level than other people by putting the work in, you could defend yourself better against two people. But hey, this isn't my game. Just suggesting this. If nothing changes in this game in this context then that's the choice you guys have made. Cool game, but it's not built for soloing. And I think a solo option would bring more people in. There are, I'm guessing, a lot of other people who feel this way too. It's a beautiful world you guys have made and it would be so awesome to explore it alone when my family has gone to bed. It's really peaceful, until you're griefed.
Different options for solo playing.
not going to comment on the solo portion
Gun upgrades however are a double edged sword. While I can see the two vs one defence thought process, you are missing the one vs two attacker benefit too. This is why rare has chosen to avoid power progression. It allows a more even playing field in a shared world
@fozex i stopped reading at the solo-mode suggestion...
They already said, there won't ever be a solo-mode without other ships
And beeing attacked has nothing to do with griefing...I play solo alot, yesterday I had a haul about 30k on board...two ships tried to get me, when you know what to do, they will akways give up@fozex sagte in Different options for solo playing.:
Hello Rare! When I was a little kid I played Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie. Those two are so special to my heart. I absolutely adored those games. Very awesome times playing them! Just had to say that. I would like to kindly give some feedback. I don't know if you guys are willing to do this, but here goes. I tried playing solo today and got griefed over and over while trying to finish the shroudbreaker quest. I understand the concept of this game but I love playing solo sometimes. I don't know, it would be great to have a solo world available where you can hire AI team-mates or not even. Just a solo world, with just one person in it. I really really love this world, but its really annoying when I'm trying to do a quest and you get greifed over and over and over again, .... It's really peaceful, until you're griefed.
https://www.seaofthieves.com/de/code-of-conduct
- Be a good sport. Sea of Thieves is a pirate game, and stealth, stealing and battles are all part of the fun. All pirates on the seas accept that, but be a good sportsman in both victory and loss.
@fozex
Rare said that they will never add progression to this game. They do want to add private servers at some point though. These won't have progression, so pveers don't leave adventure.@fozex I personally have no trouble soloing but this is after experience. I would advise getting good at knowing the ship's different advantages soon, and watching videos on youtube to learn how people can play, using LFG on a discord server or something like that works, just tell them that you cant talk on your mic and use text chat instead (t preferably but idk if you are on pc or not), this works for me 100% of the time. Remember that you can always outrun enemy ships on sloop via going into the wind, brig its either downwind for sloop and brig and upwind for brig and galleon (both works for against the same class) and galleon you just go downwind. The game is quite fun once you get used to it. It seems like it is your first time, im sure we all got sunk on our first time, I would keep playing and just learn the different ship's advantages and how to play solo and soon you will be able to dispatch enemy players with ease. Remember with solo that you cant do most things as immediately as other crews, and that you need to do stuff before it is needed if possible. Only repair if there are small holes or you are not in immediate danger, other than that you can bail to keep your ship alive. Your main goal when running away is to keep your pace into the wind. Just get good at this and you will be able to deal with brigs and sloops (and especially galleons) very easily. Good Luck!
@fozex sounds alot like you lost a fight and didnt get griefed. Please dont confuse pvp with griefing. they are very very different.
@goedecke-michel
The context of my point was having a solo world for a player like myself who sometimes can't talk on a mic at night because of my baby. And if I can't talk on a mic it's harder to play this game. I kindly suggested an option for when I want to do quests at night alone, or if I'm in a peaceful mood. Sometimes I'm in the mood for pirating. I have done allot of playing with my friend and his friends where we have attacked ships multiple times and gotten a whole lot of loot. When I'm attacked I completely understand that it is acceptable in this game. I would be a hypocrite if I was angry at getting killed and having my time and progress feel like it was wasted if I have done that to other people. I'm not angry, I'm just curious to see if this is an option they would consider for others who are in a solo mood. I was just kindly suggesting another mode of playing in the world. It would be cool. And like I mentioned too, it's their game and it's not mine. Sometimes I want to be left alone while in a game. I understand that it is their game. Not mine. I'm willing to let myself be judged in whatever way just to suggest this. If nothing changes, no-one has done wrong in my eyes. Just kindly suggesting something.@captain-coel They wouldn't sink my boat. And I couldn't come back without dying. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong? But it sure seemed like it was. This is from urbandictionary.com. Couldn't find it on websters dictionary.
TOP DEFINITION
griefing-
Purposefully shooting or otherwise sabotaging your teammates in an online game.
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In online gaming where one repeatedly killing the same individual or individuals over and over again, or camping their corpse to prevent them from retrieving it, or otherwise performing actions in a game to prevent the player from enjoying the game.
It seemed very much so that my boat/spawn point was camped. I died multiple times.
P.S. I need major counselling after this. And I have taken the month off of work to recuperate.
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@viperishemu2992 It would be nice! See someone else who agrees! If nothing changes though it's all good.
@jofjjay Hey thanks for the advice! =). I play on Xboxone, so I can't text chat. I will look into that. I'm gonna keep trying solo and try to get good at it.
@fozex were they gutting your boats supplies?
You can scuttle. if you have lost take it well and move on.
@fozex Yeah Good Luck! Just remember you can always run and get good at it, can be a great way to get good at pvp since you can board at no real risk to yourself (except for barrels)
@fozex I don't see why so many people get their knickers in-a-knot about adding a third playing mode to this game focused on PvE? Rare introduced Arena Mode just fine without significantly detracting from Adventure Mode in any way. There is no reason to suspect that an "Explorer Mode" would be handled any differently.
At the end of the day, why should they care how other people enjoy themselves? Grow up!
@viperishemu2992 PvE servers would destory the game. If they came out, all the achievement oriented (PvE) players would go there, because it would be easier to progress. Because of dominant strategy, everyone except PvP players and noobertons would go ther. All the PvP players quit because their playstyle just got deleted. Meanwhile, the PvE players are finding the game has no risk or challenge outside of PvP players, so they quit too. The game is dead.
@wilbymagicbear said in Different options for solo playing.:
@viperishemu2992 PvE servers would destory the game. If they came out, all the achievement oriented (PvE) players would go there, because it would be easier to progress. Because of dominant strategy, everyone except PvP players and noobertons would go ther. All the PvP players quit because their playstyle just got deleted. Meanwhile, the PvE players are finding the game has no risk or challenge outside of PvP players, so they quit too. The game is dead.
That's the kind of thing that people was saying about Arena before it came out. Rare have proven that they can bring out another Mode without harming the "Main Game". I have no reason to doubt that they could do that again.
@viperishemu2992
Yeah, so it would have to be as different from adventure as arena for a pve mode. Something like defending an outpost from skelly ships.@blazedrake100 said in Different options for solo playing.:
@viperishemu2992
Yeah, so it would have to be as different from adventure as arena for a pve mode. Something like defending an outpost from skelly ships.Yes, I think that it should be very different from Adventure. Something similar in size and scope to what Rare did with Arena. Maybe have it's own currency (Copper?). It's own commendations and missions. Maybe it's own Guild? The Explorer's Guild! So players could level up to 50 in that (if they wanted).
Don't need solo server but need option for Hostile/ no-hostille ) activated only at avant-post... This game need more player and its impossible with this system ( JUST PVP ALL MAP ) Avant post pvp, Sea PVP, ISLE PVP... Dont have safe zone and is not normal. I spwan tavern and BANG ! 3 guys kill me loll comone, is not normal
@wilbymagicbear Nooo ! Just PVP servers destroy this game :) Look albion online, Before 80max player in village... and after patch give choice PVP- and more PVE ! This game have 200-400 people by village :) It's true ... pvp only, destroy this game day by day
@Fozex
I think I found the game you were looking for: https://store.steampowered.com/app/794860/eSail_Sailing_Simulator/
When you want to play solo, you can sail in peace all day and all night if you want. It has challenges and shipwrecks and treasure hunts! And guess what, no PvP!Then, when you want a different experience, load up Sea of Thieves. This game doesn't have to cater for every single persons personal tastes, no game out there does. It's kind of why a wide range of games exist, to cater for what you are looking for.
Good luck on the seas!
@darkgreedo said in Different options for solo playing.:
Rare have input new game mode PVP ARENA lol this game is only pvp, why dont give option hostile, or not hostile for player solo or PVE only lol its simple
Rare have also added PvP oriented missions to complete in Adventure mode. So I'm not sure what your argument is. There's even a commendation for stealing Athena chests from other pirates, this is also in Adventure mode.
The Arena is not just solely for PvP. That mode also includes digging up and handing in treasure. Teams can win whilst avoiding PvP altogether. Arena is basically a 'quick play' version of Adventure mode for those who don't have a couple of hours available to play.
It really gets old defending the games integrity to these 2 days at sea folks that can come here and bleat on about wanting pve only servers after losing an encounter with another player, calling it griefing. How on earth can you feel greifed when what just happened to you is literally the title of the game?! There really needs to be some sort of forum countermeasure or punishment for not using the forum properly and clogging the feed with nonsense.
@withmyapologies My arguments is not valible ? okay
All game pvp sauvage have safe zone or option too give Hostile or not for give a choice PVP-PVE ! Why this game have jsut PVP and no safe zone ? i see, you hate change ! but this gmae need more player base, because this moment, just have pvp player :) Game die litle, because its only pvp and dont have constent people playing this !
Just input option ( hostile or not, for give a choice... ) after this patch,you gain more playerbase ! and more new pvp player after gain experience with this game. ITS a true arguments and you ? haaaa its just pvp... hmmm good arguments haha
@darkgreedo said in Different options for solo playing.:
@wilbymagicbear Nooo ! Just PVP servers destroy this game :) Look albion online, Before 80max player in village... and after patch give choice PVP- and more PVE ! This game have 200-400 people by village :) It's true ... pvp only, destroy this game day by day
Recently, someone posted something that had been run from Japanese into English through Google Translate. It was orders of magnitude more comprehensible than whatever the f**k you're trying to say.
@wilbymagicbear sorry for your ENGLISH only ! Im not english... you dont understand
( PVP only DESTROY this game ) ??? Im french and i understand all you say...@wilbymagicbear This game needs a hostile option to give a choice for PVP and PVE players ! Its simple... by doing this, you gain players and future PVP player !
@viperishemu2992 said in Different options for solo playing.:
@wilbymagicbear said in Different options for solo playing.:
@viperishemu2992 PvE servers would destory the game. If they came out, all the achievement oriented (PvE) players would go there, because it would be easier to progress. Because of dominant strategy, everyone except PvP players and noobertons would go ther. All the PvP players quit because their playstyle just got deleted. Meanwhile, the PvE players are finding the game has no risk or challenge outside of PvP players, so they quit too. The game is dead.
That's the kind of thing that people was saying about Arena before it came out. Rare have proven that they can bring out another Mode without harming the "Main Game". I have no reason to doubt that they could do that again.
The 3 main differences between Arena and PvE is that firstly, Arena is an addition to the main game, not an alternative. You can't progress Arena in Adventure, and vice-versa. Secondly, because it is not an alternative, there can be no game-wide dominant strategy. Finally, drawing some PvP players away from the main game has some benifit in the form of giving PvE players a bit of a break.
