Where to keep your Gun Powder

  • So I’m tired of arguing with every crew so maybe I’m wrong but I’ve tested this stuff extensively.

    Regular Gun Powder should be kept in the captains quarters behind the red chair. This is my argument:

    1. No one can see it and no one will look for it there.

    2. the ONLY thing that can set it off is a Meg bite! If it does go off you get 2 holes in the rear bottom and the rear mast will drop and the wheel will lose 2 “boards”. It is also Lightning Proof in the captains quarter.

    3. everyone knows the 1st thing to do when engaging another ship is grab your eye of reach and shoot at the crows nest.

    4. when boarded the boarder will head straight to the crows nest 9 out of 10 times.

    The mega keg should always be on the very very tip of the Bow!

    Everyone I sail with refuses to do this and thinks I’m nuts. Am I nuts?

    Edit: I only sail and tested Galleons so I have no idea where you would want it on other ships.

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  • @glannigan If you will store them in the captain quarters you most likely get blowned away because its a pretty common play get hit by cannons so you would most likely lose members while getting hit in a vital area.
    Put them in the crow's nest and if you ask me dont store them on the ship at all its a double edge sword and against an experienced crew a gunpower barrel wont do anything they will just fix their holes and continue.
    The best way is to master your boarding skills, be sneaky and merciless.

  • @glannigan A part of me wants to lie and encourage players to follow you. Cannon fire can easily set it off in the captain’s quarters. Someone trying to board with a gun powder barrel and missing might set off their barrel, causing yours to explode. Lightning can set it off through the hull (though it rarely strikes a boat anymore). BTW, why do you think the captain’s quarters is lightning proof? There was a poster a few days ago surprised and upset that lightning can set off barrels on the bottom deck of their galleon.

    Most boarders go for the anchor. The crow’s nest is a long journey and it is very easy to just shoot them on their way up. That only works if the crew is unaware they are on board. Plenty of sneaky boarders actually 'tuck' behind the captains chair and would be delighted to see a stack of gun powder to hide in and use when the time is right.

  • Crows nest every time for me, regardless of the gunpowder type and quantity.

    I do this to preserve crew life more than anything. A trip to the ferry for being too close to an explosion can be the difference between filling with water and being overrun by other players. Imo.

  • @faceyourdemon said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    @glannigan If you will store them in the captain quarters you most likely get blowned away because its a pretty common play get hit by cannons so you would most likely lose members while getting hit in a vital area.
    Put them in the crow's nest and if you ask me dont store them on the ship at all its a double edge sword and against an experienced crew a gunpower barrel wont do anything they will just fix their holes and continue.
    The best way is to master your boarding skills, be sneaky and merciless.

    But they are cannon proof in the captains quarters

    Can on fire will not set them off even when being shot repeatedly on that part of the ship

  • There is no answer, because there is no single safe place to store them.
    It's all situational. You are correct that the crow's nest is a vulnerable location - easily fired upon by any experienced pirate. So, I don't like having them up there if we're facing other pirates within firing range.
    Confession - I don't really like carrying the stuff anymore. Which is a shame, because I'm a big fan of the explosions - so long as they happen at other ships' expenses. :D

    Each and every location has its benefits and problems. The captain's quarters has some benefits, but what concerns me is the life of the helmsman and any other nearby crew.
    Of course, primary objective is to prevent any and all would-be boarders. So, for the most part boarders are not a concern.
    If I'm transporting kegs and don't wish to have them in the crow's nest, I may store them below deck, towards the bow. They ARE in danger of exploding if we receive cannon fire in that location, however. Again, I don't worry much about boarders, since priority #1 is preventing them.

    Still, if I'm going to carry regular gunpowder barrels, on a galleon, I'll mostly prefer them in the crow's nest. We can repair the masts. We'll get zero holes. And all crew will be fine.
    Mega Kegs, however, are a different story.
    I'll tend to keep mega kegs (Stronghold GPBs) mobile. I prefer them away from visibility and easy firing range - so, the crow's nest is out. I'll store them below deck, towards the bow. And I'll have them moved as the situation changes - such as lightning storms, cannon fire, or other types of enemies who may chomp through the hull.

    Aye... in life, especially upon the seas, there are few easy answers.

  • @glannigan You are wrong they are not protected there from cannon fire at all, and you can test that.

  • I'd rather take the risk of a well placed sniper shot putting my mast down than a keg blowing up in my ship killing me and possibly, the rest of the crew.

    Kegs seems to be invincible from canonballs when placed on the voyages table, there was a myth-busting video recently showing this, and it works. It still won't protect them from sword and bullets though.

  • If I ever play with anyone that argues kegs belong in captains I'll show them why that's a terrible idea.

    No, a meg isnt the only thing that can hit it. A single shot to the back.. hell, a bolt of lighting (100% not lighting proof) top deck just above will end your driver, and anyone below grabbing cannonballs or planks in a combat situation.

  • @faceyourdemon said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    @glannigan You are wrong they are not protected there from cannon fire at all, and you can test that.

    I did I placed them behind the red chair and shot the sheet out of the back window and all around and they don’t go off.

  • @glannigan Im sure of it but i will check it myself and come up with an answer :)

  • Gotta be honest, I hard disagree with all these. Mega keg on the bow? What? It's much harder to shoot a moving crows nest than the front of a ship.

  • Think you should do what you feel like doing, an if you think it's better then ill not tell you it's wrong.

    Since this only regard the galleon, I can see you logic, both for aggressiv an defensive players.
    just that 10-15sec it take to get up to the crows nest, compared to have it right at hand.

    it's a double edge sword, Personally I always check the captains quaters an the map table, so if they are there, you are lucky when its me, cause im a "good" pirate.
    But if a "bad" pirate see it, they will also put it all over, so not much safer.

  • @glannigan
    Crows nest all day. Anywhere else is asking for a tragedy.

  • @Glannigan Just tested it. It was possible something changed and we were not told, so I wanted to verify it. I placed the barrel behind the red chair in the captain's quarters and then fired a cannon at the back. Second shot and BOOM! Definitely not safe from cannonballs in that spot. I have no idea why it did not go off for you, but it exploded, took out the rear mast, and put several holes in the boat. If anyone had been above or below it, they would be dead as well.

    I do want to commend your willingness to consult the community rather than just assuming you are right and everyone else is wrong. It is a good quality.

  • @ghostpaw said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    @Glannigan Just tested it. Maybe something changed and we were not told. I placed the barrel behind the red chair in the captain's quarters and then fired a cannon at the back. Second shot and BOOM! Definitely not safe from cannonballs in that spot. I have no idea why it did not go off for you, but it exploded, took out the rear mast, and put several holes in the boat. If anyone had been above or below it, they would be dead as well.

    I do want to commend your willingness to consult the community rather than just assuming you are right and everyone else is wrong. It is a good quality.

    Maybe they did change something. I was almost certain it only went off to a Meg nite. I believe you but now I have to check again so I’m gonna have to solo a Galleon over to the skulkfort when I log in!

  • Why come here and argue that everyone should store gunpowder kegs in the captain’s cabin when half your argument for doing so is that no one will expect that?

    If this post succeeds and every crew you join - and every crew you meet - does as you suggest, you have lost your advantage.

    Remember the wartime motto: “Loose lips sink ships!”

  • I wish there was a way to attach them to the backs of crew members. It would encourage them to be extra vigilant of possible boarding situations.

  • @glannigan Madman! Your words will be the doom of many crews!

  • @surveyorpete said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    Why come here and argue that everyone should store gunpowder kegs in the captain’s cabin when half your argument for doing so is that no one will expect that?

    If this post succeeds and every crew you join - and every crew you meet - does as you suggest, you have lost your advantage.

    Remember the wartime motto: “Loose lips sink ships!”

    I’m guessing about it’s less than a single digit percentage of the entire player base has ever been here.

  • @glannigan Up until mast damage became a thing our crews used to carry the barrels on the lower boom (yard arm) of the mast. We all mastered the jump from the ladder to the boom to cut time in retrieving the gpb's. For awhile after the release of mast damage we noticed that chickens in cages were immune to bullets. So we'd stack the gpb's at the tip of the bow sprit and surround them with chickens then cover them with plants. This method worked well and provided some humor everytime @Murphy576 or @diqitalsoul blew themselves up with a sword lunge or boarded an enemy ship with a chicken instead of a gpb. We test weekly and would love to find a good spot but for now short of harpooning a rowboat to the aft of the ship and sacrificing a man to work the harpoon we'll be putting the gpb's in the crows nest!😂

  • Don't have GP on your ship at all. Just makes it easier to kill you, might work against less experienced crews but counting on someone being bad isn't a valid strat.

  • @itz-majman said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    Don't have GP on your ship at all. Just makes it easier to kill you, might work against less experienced crews but counting on someone being bad isn't a valid strat.

    Oh no. No. No. I feel naked without a few barrels on board. They are so versatile.

  • Unfortunately if keeping barrels the best place is your mast. It’s easier to take mast damage and repair than it is your hull and sink. If you store them down below you risk blowing up to a cannon ball hit from an island or player. If you get boarded it’s easier for them to find a barrel on your boat and blow it than it is to climb ladder and get it. Having a barrel onboard is always a risk. If you don’t want to take the risk then don’t carry them on board. Most of the time people don’t notice them in crows nest. If you stack them on top of each other and use little space it will be harder to hit than if they are spread out. Also behind the chair is a normal tuck spot where people hide or hide treasure if it’s on your boat they will find it period.

  • @ghostpaw said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    @itz-majman said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    Don't have GP on your ship at all. Just makes it easier to kill you, might work against less experienced crews but counting on someone being bad isn't a valid strat.

    Oh no. No. No. I feel naked without a few barrels on board. They are so versatile.

    This. I have at least 5 on me at all times

  • I still maintain that while no place on the ship is safe anymore, that the crow's nest is STILL the safest place to put a GPB - because if it explodes, you lose the mast(s), and NOTHING ELSE.

    While you are effectively disabled and have to use the ropes to pull the mast back up, and then repair it, putting it in the crow's nest ensures that YOU ARE NOT SINKING.

    Furthermore, you can still steer your ship to defensively point your cannons toward the enemy and don't have to worry about the anchor getting broken either.

    The best part is that with 2 or more players raising the mast, it doesn't take that long at all, and you only need 1 wooden plank to keep it standing (though you will be at risk of having it fall down again if it gets shot by a lucky cannonball).

    Lastly, if someone boards your ship without their own GPB, they will have to climb up the mast to get yours (rather than just grabbing it from wherever and detonating it on the spot), giving you time to either shoot them off of the ladder, or shoot through the floor of the crow's nest to detonate them yourself before they get there or even as they get there. You'd still lose the mast(s) in the latter case, but it's a far better option than letting him drop it onto your deck or really take it anywhere else.

    So, all in all, you can spend about 5 seconds raising a mast (even if more than 1 goes down, you only need 1 to start moving again), and 5 more seconds repairing it with a plank. If you're quick, you'll be back up on your feet and moving in no time flat.

  • Crows nest.

    End of chat.

  • You don't sound "crazy". Maybe "foolhardy".

    The safest place is still the Crows nest. Sorry. Anywhere else is "living on the edge."

    Not that I don't appreciate you "mixing it up". Keeping life "muy caliente"! I'm not saying your hiding places are bad. Just risky.

  • @glannigan said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    So I’m tired of arguing with every crew so maybe I’m wrong but I’ve tested this stuff extensively.

    Regular Gun Powder should be kept in the captains quarters behind the red chair. This is my argument:

    1. No one can see it and no one will look for it there.

    2. the ONLY thing that can set it off is a Meg bite! If it does go off you get 2 holes in the rear bottom and the rear mast will drop and the wheel will lose 2 “boards”. It is also Lightning Proof in the captains quarter.

    3. everyone knows the 1st thing to do when engaging another ship is grab your eye of reach and shoot at the crows nest.

    4. when boarded the boarder will head straight to the crows nest 9 out of 10 times.

    The mega keg should always be on the very very tip of the Bow!

    Everyone I sail with refuses to do this and thinks I’m nuts. Am I nuts?

    Edit: I only sail and tested Galleons so I have no idea where you would want it on other ships.

    May I add: If you have more than one keg and they all go off at the same time it's devastating. So if you spread them across the ship it is less deadly if one gets triggered.

  • @glannigan

    I still refuse to keep it anywhere other than the crow's nest.

    Yes, other players can snipe it, but at the same time, a well placed cannonball shot or a meg bite can absolutely set them off if you keep them behind the captain's chair. Then you're in a world of trouble as you'll have more holes AND your crew mates could be killed if they were standing near the barrels. In the crow's nest, your damage will be minimal compared to keeping them anywhere else on the ship.

    While there will be risk no matter where you put them these days, I still have to argue that keeping them in the crow's nest is the lesser of all evils.

  • I've had kegs on the back of my sloop between the rowboat and map table and a meg has never blown them up, even when biting the back of the boat. Why do you think that is? 🤔

  • @crimsonraziel said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    May I add: If you have more than one keg and they all go off at the same time it's devastating. So if you spread them across the ship it is less deadly if one gets triggered.

    On my sloop, I like to keep one on the voyage table, one at the bottom of the stairs in front of the plank barrel, then one all the way to the front of the ship down below. The rest get stored next to me at the helm so that I can grab them quickly as needed. I can honestly say a meg has never caused barrels placed in that specific configuration to explode on my ship.

  • I always keep regular gun powder barrels in the crow's nest. The SGB is another story. I've done so many fort steals by sniping it when it's loaded into the crows nest, sometimes I wonder if it's worth it to load it at all. That said, on a gally, we've been putting it on the barrel next to the main mast on the bottom deck, with a similar location on sloops and brigs. We only had one issue with it there, and that was (surprisingly) on a gally in the roar with a volcano.

    I will say, when we're sailing with new crew members (not necessarily new players), they are shocked we aren't keeping the SGB in the crows nest. I always tell them "it's the way it's always been done" is the worst reason in the world to do anything.

  • Heres an idea. Get several harpoon rowboats and have them tether to the back. Use them as a weapon, sail right by a ship dragging the boats along and hopefully he collission with their ship will set it off.

    Eitherway it will be quite a sight and they’ll be wary to get too close to the back of your ship.

    Thats if it works 😂

  • @galactic-geek said in Where to keep your Gun Powder:

    I've had kegs on the back of my sloop between the rowboat and map table and a meg has never blown them up, even when biting the back of the boat. Why do you think that is? 🤔

    I could have sworn that it set it off once. I tried to a handful of times to solo a Galleon over to the skullfort yesterday to do some tests but hell I couldn’t even get the Galleon to it without all he’ll breaking loose. (Other players, KRAKEN. etc).

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