Time to disable crossplay

  • @rip-chongy
    Not true. I'm on Xbox and wish rare kept their original promise of no asterisk cross play.

  • @squaz05 exactly when did Rare get on the dev update and promise that?

  • @needsmokes said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @dliquidcourageb

    Watch today's Dev update video. Apparently there will be an update on the situation.

    Well they did mention it but they still didn't give a date. Like usual they keep pro longing it. What are they waiting for the Xbox community to quit playing.

  • I also find it funny how Rare wants us to get 240 wins by a certain date when the pc community owns the arena

  • @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05 wrong, you were never promised anything.

    @dliquidcourageb said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05 exactly when did Rare get on the dev update and promise that?

    Crossplay no asterix
    No Compromise Cross Play in Sea of Thieves

  • @pomalotacusmk3 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05
    No thanks. It would probably take them 6 months after announcing to implement 60fps on Xbox. I'll just take 30fps Xbox only, controller only servers. Problem solved.

    you are suggesting a bandaid and refuse progression in the gaming industry
    great attitude.

  • @dliquidcourageb said in Time to disable crossplay:

    I also find it funny how Rare wants us to get 240 wins by a certain date when the pc community owns the arena

    No time limit anymore.

  • @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @algaram said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3 have fun playing on empty servers and only 2-3 ships per arena match and loooooonnnnngggg arena wait times when they implement it finally

    hahahahahhahahaha
    I hope rare realizes that crossplay option will be the nail in the coffin for this game

    Why do people still tout this entirely debunked nonsense?

    Rare said the population is healthy a few days after the anniversary patch... I want them to say this a month from now see if that still holds.

    With what I see on the servers, the twitch/mixer channel numbers (which are usually a relative indication of the game's health) there is no way in hell at this moment the game's population is healthy enough on the PC side to afford to split the community 4 way.

    now if it ends up holding true, and the 4 way split works and servers are still healthy, great every one wins,

    so for the xbox players it's a win win "if it works, win, if it doesn't you still win"
    for the PC players its a risk, you win if it works and you lose if it doesn't.

    This is why only PC players have a problem with the opt out of crossplay. because if it doesn't work we lose.

    If we do end up losing and have empty servers and 30 minute arnea matchmaking and when we PC players come back to the forums to say: " we told you so" the answer we will get from the Xbox players is "welp, too bad, it is what it is, go find another game for PC."

    You guys [console players] really don't care what happens to the PC community as long as your special xbox bubble is thriving.

  • @squaz05 in the video they are talking about an Xbox version and also a pc version it is saying the they can work together but it doesn't say there has to be only crossplay

  • @dliquidcourageb said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05 in the video they are talking about an Xbox version and also a pc version it is saying the they can work together but it doesn't say there has to be only crossplay

    3:26 "This is exactly the way it should be [crossplay] and there is no compromise"

    meaning they designed the game to be crossplay and every development decision is made with this in mind.
    by adding an Opt Out option you are now
    1- compromising on the experience
    2- you added an asterisk "Crossplay*"
    *with the possibility to opt out

  • @squaz05 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @dliquidcourageb said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05 in the video they are talking about an Xbox version and also a pc version it is saying the they can work together but it doesn't say there has to be only crossplay

    3:26 "This is exactly the way it should be [crossplay] and there is no compromise"

    meaning they designed the game to be crossplay and every development decision is made with this in mind.
    by adding an Opt Out option you are now
    1- compromising on the experience
    2- you added an asterisk "Crossplay*"
    *with the possibility to opt out

    Actually I didn't add the asterisk. I'm going off of what Rare stated, that it would be in the game. The option to be able to opt out of crossplay and I am all for it. It was suppose to be released by the time arena started. This was stated by Rare on January 30th. I have been patiently waiting four months now and not saying a word about it. Now I'm now programmer by any means and not claiming to be, I just expected that the great minds at Rare would have had this option out by now.

  • @squaz05 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05
    No thanks. It would probably take them 6 months after announcing to implement 60fps on Xbox. I'll just take 30fps Xbox only, controller only servers. Problem solved.

    you are suggesting a bandaid and refuse progression in the gaming industry
    great attitude.

    Its not a bandaid, its a delicate surgery to remove an unwanted tumor.

    Progression in the gaming industry? Im happy with my platform and choice, arent you happy with yours? I have no need for crossplay in any of my games, especially forced crossplay. How bout you? Crossplay is fine, just stop forcing it on players that arent interested.

    If forced crossplay is the 'progression' you want, i see Sony shares going up.

  • @squaz05 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @algaram said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3 have fun playing on empty servers and only 2-3 ships per arena match and loooooonnnnngggg arena wait times when they implement it finally

    hahahahahhahahaha
    I hope rare realizes that crossplay option will be the nail in the coffin for this game

    Why do people still tout this entirely debunked nonsense?

    Rare said the population is healthy a few days after the anniversary patch... I want them to say this a month from now see if that still holds.

    With what I see on the servers, the twitch/mixer channel numbers (which are usually a relative indication of the game's health) there is no way in hell at this moment the game's population is healthy enough on the PC side to afford to split the community 4 way.

    now if it ends up holding true, and the 4 way split works and servers are still healthy, great every one wins,

    so for the xbox players it's a win win "if it works, win, if it doesn't you still win"
    for the PC players its a risk, you win if it works and you lose if it doesn't.

    This is why only PC players have a problem with the opt out of crossplay. because if it doesn't work we lose.

    If we do end up losing and have empty servers and 30 minute arnea matchmaking and when we PC players come back to the forums to say: " we told you so" the answer we will get from the Xbox players is "welp, too bad, it is what it is, go find another game for PC."

    You guys [console players] really don't care what happens to the PC community as long as your special xbox bubble is thriving.

    1. Yes Rare said the population is fine.

    2. What you see on the servers, and mixer/twitch are horrible indicators of the actual server populations. You know you can only see 24 players at a time and most are going to be minding their own business because A) theres a pve event on right now and B) PVP is generally not very incentivized, right?

    3. I believe Rare who has actual data, more than your anecdotal estimations.

    4. The only way that would happen is if PC players threw a mass tantrum over Xbox players getting their way and quit. Or maybe if some of them find out that when there's less players at a disadvantage and less kids to beat up on that they dont do so well, maybe they quit too. If you come up in here with those situations yes I would tell you its too bad. I'd say the same thing that PC guys have told Xbox guys since launch. "maybe this isnt the game for you. "you could always stop playing" "git gud".

    5. Correct. (at least in my case) I don't care. Since launch PC guys have been up in here doing everything they can to resist a level playing field for Xbox players and insulting them. The game got so much worse when streamers brought in an influx of Pc players. Its not coincidence that the double gun exploit which had been a thing since launch but largely ignored by players exploded when the PC player population doubled (or more). Further, we're the ones paying to play this Xbox play anywhere game. If a bunch of people playing at advantage while not paying to play throw a fit and quit because they will have less advantage I couldn't possibly care less.

  • @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @algaram said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3 have fun playing on empty servers and only 2-3 ships per arena match and loooooonnnnngggg arena wait times when they implement it finally

    hahahahahhahahaha
    I hope rare realizes that crossplay option will be the nail in the coffin for this game

    Why do people still tout this entirely debunked nonsense?

    Rare said the population is healthy a few days after the anniversary patch... I want them to say this a month from now see if that still holds.

    With what I see on the servers, the twitch/mixer channel numbers (which are usually a relative indication of the game's health) there is no way in hell at this moment the game's population is healthy enough on the PC side to afford to split the community 4 way.

    now if it ends up holding true, and the 4 way split works and servers are still healthy, great every one wins,

    so for the xbox players it's a win win "if it works, win, if it doesn't you still win"
    for the PC players its a risk, you win if it works and you lose if it doesn't.

    This is why only PC players have a problem with the opt out of crossplay. because if it doesn't work we lose.

    If we do end up losing and have empty servers and 30 minute arnea matchmaking and when we PC players come back to the forums to say: " we told you so" the answer we will get from the Xbox players is "welp, too bad, it is what it is, go find another game for PC."

    You guys [console players] really don't care what happens to the PC community as long as your special xbox bubble is thriving.

    1. Yes Rare said the population is fine.

    2. What you see on the servers, and mixer/twitch are horrible indicators of the actual server populations. You know you can only see 24 players at a time and most are going to be minding their own business because A) theres a pve event on right now and B) PVP is generally not very incentivized, right?

    3. I believe Rare who has actual data, more than your anecdotal estimations.

    4. The only way that would happen is if PC players threw a mass tantrum over Xbox players getting their way and quit. Or maybe if some of them find out that when there's less players at a disadvantage and less kids to beat up on that they dont do so well, maybe they quit too. If you come up in here with those situations yes I would tell you its too bad. I'd say the same thing that PC guys have told Xbox guys since launch. "maybe this isnt the game for you. "you could always stop playing" "git gud".

    5. Correct. (at least in my case) I don't care. Since launch PC guys have been up in here doing everything they can to resist a level playing field for Xbox players and insulting them. The game got so much worse when streamers brought in an influx of Pc players. Its not coincidence that the double gun exploit which had been a thing since launch but largely ignored by players exploded when the PC player population doubled (or more). Further, we're the ones paying to play this Xbox play anywhere game. If a bunch of people playing at advantage while not paying to play throw a fit and quit because they will have less advantage I couldn't possibly care less.

    Here Here.

  • @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @algaram said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3 have fun playing on empty servers and only 2-3 ships per arena match and loooooonnnnngggg arena wait times when they implement it finally

    hahahahahhahahaha
    I hope rare realizes that crossplay option will be the nail in the coffin for this game

    Why do people still tout this entirely debunked nonsense?

    Rare said the population is healthy a few days after the anniversary patch... I want them to say this a month from now see if that still holds.

    With what I see on the servers, the twitch/mixer channel numbers (which are usually a relative indication of the game's health) there is no way in hell at this moment the game's population is healthy enough on the PC side to afford to split the community 4 way.

    now if it ends up holding true, and the 4 way split works and servers are still healthy, great every one wins,

    so for the xbox players it's a win win "if it works, win, if it doesn't you still win"
    for the PC players its a risk, you win if it works and you lose if it doesn't.

    This is why only PC players have a problem with the opt out of crossplay. because if it doesn't work we lose.

    If we do end up losing and have empty servers and 30 minute arnea matchmaking and when we PC players come back to the forums to say: " we told you so" the answer we will get from the Xbox players is "welp, too bad, it is what it is, go find another game for PC."

    You guys [console players] really don't care what happens to the PC community as long as your special xbox bubble is thriving.

    1. Yes Rare said the population is fine.

    2. What you see on the servers, and mixer/twitch are horrible indicators of the actual server populations. You know you can only see 24 players at a time and most are going to be minding their own business because A) theres a pve event on right now and B) PVP is generally not very incentivized, right?

    3. I believe Rare who has actual data, more than your anecdotal estimations.

    4. The only way that would happen is if PC players threw a mass tantrum over Xbox players getting their way and quit. Or maybe if some of them find out that when there's less players at a disadvantage and less kids to beat up on that they dont do so well, maybe they quit too. If you come up in here with those situations yes I would tell you its too bad. I'd say the same thing that PC guys have told Xbox guys since launch. "maybe this isnt the game for you. "you could always stop playing" "git gud".

    5. Correct. (at least in my case) I don't care. Since launch PC guys have been up in here doing everything they can to resist a level playing field for Xbox players and insulting them. The game got so much worse when streamers brought in an influx of Pc players. Its not coincidence that the double gun exploit which had been a thing since launch but largely ignored by players exploded when the PC player population doubled (or more). Further, we're the ones paying to play this Xbox play anywhere game. If a bunch of people playing at advantage while not paying to play throw a fit and quit because they will have less advantage I couldn't possibly care less.

    1. yep right after an anniversary content... very horrible metric to gauge the health of your game... i mean obviously everyone and their grandmothers will come back to "try" the new features, and just as fast people will leave

    2. played last night for 4 hours... saw 3 ships, all 3 tried to kill me to make me fail the tall tales. Also yes unless there is a giveaway going on, twitch and mixer are very good relative indicators to estimate the health/popularity of a game.

    3. wonder why they don't release that data, wonder why they haven't added crossplay opt out... yet? they said having problems with matchmaking.... we wouldn't want 30 minute arena matchmaking now would we?

    4. you assume that we don't want crossplay because we want to keep our advantage completely ignoring the 80+ pages in the mega thread where PC players acknowlege this and offer different solutions to level the playing field, including 2-3 posts in this thread by me about getting the xbox on par with PC when it comes to FPS. but no let's ignore that and say that PC players just want to bully young kids and want free easy wins...let's ignore the legitimate concerns the PC players have and #tickoptout movement you guys are doing.

    5. you should be ashamed to call yourself a gamer with that attitude. We are all gamers playing the same games. We all want progress in the gaming industry. The future of the gaming industry is CROSSPLAY across not only PC and consoles but also mobile. Games with crossplay are not trying to go back to the dark ages, they are trying to innovate. I commend Rare for piloting this new gaming crossplay world. All their decisions up to now have been how can we apply this so both console and PC are on the same boat (pun intended) adding this opt out is a step in the wrong direction...

    5a how many times do we need to tell you. you don't pay for your xbox gold account to be part of a special group. you pay to get free games and discounts. The part about playing online is a scam. it's like having to pay to breathe internet air. in fact there are rumors that the xbox gold account will be for the free games and discounts and they will open the online play for everyone as this is becoming a necessity in modern gaming where 99% of the games released are multiplayer.

    don't think you are special for paying for a "closed xbox only servers"

    It is a shame that you are advocating for regression and not progress

  • @squaz05 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @squaz05 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @algaram said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3 have fun playing on empty servers and only 2-3 ships per arena match and loooooonnnnngggg arena wait times when they implement it finally

    hahahahahhahahaha
    I hope rare realizes that crossplay option will be the nail in the coffin for this game

    Why do people still tout this entirely debunked nonsense?

    Rare said the population is healthy a few days after the anniversary patch... I want them to say this a month from now see if that still holds.

    With what I see on the servers, the twitch/mixer channel numbers (which are usually a relative indication of the game's health) there is no way in hell at this moment the game's population is healthy enough on the PC side to afford to split the community 4 way.

    now if it ends up holding true, and the 4 way split works and servers are still healthy, great every one wins,

    so for the xbox players it's a win win "if it works, win, if it doesn't you still win"
    for the PC players its a risk, you win if it works and you lose if it doesn't.

    This is why only PC players have a problem with the opt out of crossplay. because if it doesn't work we lose.

    If we do end up losing and have empty servers and 30 minute arnea matchmaking and when we PC players come back to the forums to say: " we told you so" the answer we will get from the Xbox players is "welp, too bad, it is what it is, go find another game for PC."

    You guys [console players] really don't care what happens to the PC community as long as your special xbox bubble is thriving.

    1. Yes Rare said the population is fine.

    2. What you see on the servers, and mixer/twitch are horrible indicators of the actual server populations. You know you can only see 24 players at a time and most are going to be minding their own business because A) theres a pve event on right now and B) PVP is generally not very incentivized, right?

    3. I believe Rare who has actual data, more than your anecdotal estimations.

    4. The only way that would happen is if PC players threw a mass tantrum over Xbox players getting their way and quit. Or maybe if some of them find out that when there's less players at a disadvantage and less kids to beat up on that they dont do so well, maybe they quit too. If you come up in here with those situations yes I would tell you its too bad. I'd say the same thing that PC guys have told Xbox guys since launch. "maybe this isnt the game for you. "you could always stop playing" "git gud".

    5. Correct. (at least in my case) I don't care. Since launch PC guys have been up in here doing everything they can to resist a level playing field for Xbox players and insulting them. The game got so much worse when streamers brought in an influx of Pc players. Its not coincidence that the double gun exploit which had been a thing since launch but largely ignored by players exploded when the PC player population doubled (or more). Further, we're the ones paying to play this Xbox play anywhere game. If a bunch of people playing at advantage while not paying to play throw a fit and quit because they will have less advantage I couldn't possibly care less.

    1. yep right after an anniversary content... very horrible metric to gauge the health of your game... i mean obviously everyone and their grandmothers will come back to "try" the new features, and just as fast people will leave

    2. played last night for 4 hours... saw 3 ships, all 3 tried to kill me to make me fail the tall tales. Also yes unless there is a giveaway going on, twitch and mixer are very good relative indicators to estimate the health/popularity of a game.

    3. wonder why they don't release that data, wonder why they haven't added crossplay opt out... yet? they said having problems with matchmaking.... we wouldn't want 30 minute arena matchmaking now would we?

    4. you assume that we don't want crossplay because we want to keep our advantage completely ignoring the 80+ pages in the mega thread where PC players acknowlege this and offer different solutions to level the playing field, including 2-3 posts in this thread by me about getting the xbox on par with PC when it comes to FPS. but no let's ignore that and say that PC players just want to bully young kids and want free easy wins...let's ignore the legitimate concerns the PC players have and #tickoptout movement you guys are doing.

    5. you should be ashamed to call yourself a gamer with that attitude. We are all gamers playing the same games. We all want progress in the gaming industry. The future of the gaming industry is CROSSPLAY across not only PC and consoles but also mobile. Games with crossplay are not trying to go back to the dark ages, they are trying to innovate. I commend Rare for piloting this new gaming crossplay world. All their decisions up to now have been how can we apply this so both console and PC are on the same boat (pun intended) adding this opt out is a step in the wrong direction...

    5a how many times do we need to tell you. you don't pay for your xbox gold account to be part of a special group. you pay to get free games and discounts. The part about playing online is a scam. it's like having to pay to breathe internet air. in fact there are rumors that the xbox gold account will be for the free games and discounts and they will open the online play for everyone as this is becoming a necessity in modern gaming where 99% of the games released are multiplayer.

    don't think you are special for paying for a "closed xbox only servers"

    It is a shame that you are advocating for regression and not progress

    Sigh, yes they ALSO said it was fine before the ani update which I can only imagine drew people back... You guys need to stop trying to estimate the populations... last time yall did it the PC population had doubled and dudes here were still "uh... ackshully the last time rare said anything (a year ago) it was 12%" You're bad at it and you dont have numbers just biased opinions and anecdotal SWAGS.

    We won't agree on this. You think that Xbox players are just dumb and pay for nothing when paying for live, but its just not true. They've added all manner of things onto live to keep people paying but live is paying for online access using consoles. that's simply what it has always been at its heart. And as much as you think anyone who would do that is stupidly paying for nothing, theres a reason that people do it, because it has always meant, paying to play on a closed platform online regardless of whether or not it was every said so explicitly.

    That's what Xbox Live Gold is. Paying to play on console online. If you think its anything else, fire up an Xbox without it and try to play online.

    Its not regressive for paying customers to get what they pay for and have the option of only playing with other paying customers, its only right and I'm glad that Rare saw the light on it.

    lol ashamed? Nah man, after all the git gud and just buy a pc and other nonsense from the PC side over an option to opt out they kinda wore me out on caring.

    As far as all these "solutions" they are all bandaids and fail to completely address the situation. And as I've said 100 times even if they managed to balance it 100% (which isnt possible) then Opt out would still be the right thing to do.

    And you're still wrong. Twitch and Mixer are terrible indications of population, anecdotal reports of what ships you see are terrible indications and I'm not even sure what "legitimate" concerns PC players have ever raised outside of the completely debunked and rejected by rare notion that opt out will cause empty servers.

    That this even has to be said with Rare having made it so clear boggles the mind.

    Yes I do assume that most who oppose crossplay at this point defend the status quo due to being able to play at an advantage. Because the argument of empty servers is dead, debunked and invalid.

    Also LOL at you talking like regression vs progress... dude its an option, its not taking away crossplay, its not regression its allowing the grand experiment to continue for those who want it and allowing those who understand that it hasnt worked to say "check please"

    I'll be ticking that box every time my PC friends dont need me.

  • I’m probably being delusional here but I don’t get all the commotion for an opt out feature. Outside of a few players here and there, the vast majority won’t know and/or care to disable crossplay. I doubt a few players complaining about it on a forum is the majority and thus fail to see how it would kill the game as some suggest.

  • Please Rare just give us the opt out option so these forum posts will stop.

    I'll sail on empty servers, grind out commendations, and just go into arena to see other players! lol

    I want to see the posts about them wanting to split the XBox 1S and X from the regular console because of load times etc.

    Also I really think you console folks should get the chance to tweak your graphic settings and enable 60fps. Friends don't let friends play at 30fps.

  • @dliquidcourageb said in Time to disable crossplay:

    I also find it funny how Rare wants us to get 240 wins by a certain date when the pc community owns the arena

    hahahahahahaha, get of the internet...right now.

  • @natiredgals I agree with a lot of things you are saying. I’m a former pc elitist that is strictly Xbox now and here’s the thing... I just don’t care that people have advantages. That’s life. But I do want to see all of gaming converge and embrace crossplay. Sad that rare is going to cave.

  • @marsmayflower said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals I agree with a lot of things you are saying. I’m a former pc elitist that is strictly Xbox now and here’s the thing... I just don’t care that people have advantages. That’s life. But I do want to see all of gaming converge and embrace crossplay. Sad that rare is going to cave.

    The day they stop charging me for online, is the day I stop demanding the option.

  • @natiredgals it's coming

  • @marsmayflower said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals it's coming

    Could be. Better be, actually given the Game Pass for PC announce today, unless of course they roll it into my GP Ultimate sub.

  • @pomalotacusmk3

    Its not a bandaid, its a delicate surgery to remove an unwanted tumor.

    When you refer an entire demographic of people as a tumor your bias shows.

  • @nabberwar said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3

    Its not a bandaid, its a delicate surgery to remove an unwanted tumor.

    When you refer an entire demographic of people as a tumor your bias shows.

    Or maybe just maybe its not really about the entire demographic but the ones that ruin it for everyone and taking it personally is your flaw not his.

  • @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @nabberwar said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3

    Its not a bandaid, its a delicate surgery to remove an unwanted tumor.

    When you refer an entire demographic of people as a tumor your bias shows.

    Or maybe just maybe its not really about the entire demographic but the ones that ruin it for everyone and taking it personally is your flaw not his.

    so only the PC players with 1080 60FPS that play with Keyboard/Mouse

    the PC players that play sub 30 FPS with a controller, they are good in your books.

    I'm just saying
    there are other ways to balance the game other than opting out option.

    and still... BS on your "pay to play on closed servers" it's an outdated fee that has no place in 2019. It was valid back a decade ago, but not anymore. and the reason, "it has always been that way so it must be good" is just a mentality that refuses change and progress. Hell even Sony, the big badguy refusing crossplay at all costs is now open to the idea.

    we are still at the beginning of this new unknown territory and instead of exploring new possibilities, you say, nah I'm out i wanna go back.

  • @natiredgals
    Refering people as tumors isn't a flaw? Congratulations on showing your bias as well mate. Your aren't worth the time talking too as well.

    Have a good one.

  • @squaz05 said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @nabberwar said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @pomalotacusmk3

    Its not a bandaid, its a delicate surgery to remove an unwanted tumor.

    When you refer an entire demographic of people as a tumor your bias shows.

    Or maybe just maybe its not really about the entire demographic but the ones that ruin it for everyone and taking it personally is your flaw not his.

    so only the PC players with 1080 60FPS that play with Keyboard/Mouse

    the PC players that play sub 30 FPS with a controller, they are good in your books.

    I'm just saying
    there are other ways to balance the game other than opting out option.

    and still... BS on your "pay to play on closed servers" it's an outdated fee that has no place in 2019. It was valid back a decade ago, but not anymore. and the reason, "it has always been that way so it must be good" is just a mentality that refuses change and progress. Hell even Sony, the big badguy refusing crossplay at all costs is now open to the idea.

    we are still at the beginning of this new unknown territory and instead of exploring new possibilities, you say, nah I'm out i wanna go back.

    Wrong on so many counts.
    First don't do the "so..." thing because you're way off, I didn't say that at all. How about instead of trying to put words in my mouth you just reply to what I actually said.

    It doesnt matter if you think the fee for online is antiquated, it IS what it is. I didn't say it was good, I said what it was. And previously I haven't minded paying for it because its traditionally meant closed platform, also most other Xbox games offer the option when crossplay is involved.

    I love crossplay, it lets me play with friends I couldn't play otherwise, but that doesnt also mean I'm willing to give up the choice that I should have as a paying Live sub.

    This isn't new and uncharted its been around for a long time, I played Shadowrun with xbox players on my PC in what 2005? You want to make this o ut like I'm some troglodyte that is trying to hold back gaming, but its just not true. I just demand the choice that I should be afforded.

  • @nabberwar said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals
    Refering people as tumors isn't a flaw? Congratulations on showing your bias as well mate. Your aren't worth the time talking too as well.

    Have a good one.

    Meh toxic, tumor, whatever. If you wanna act like NO pc guys are out there being toxic, beating up on kids, tormenting autistic players, when you've got streamers being egged on to do it by thier toxic fans then you've got your head in the sand.

    And if you're not able to tell what applies to you and take any slight against anyone whos a pc gamer personally then you should definitely ignore me.

  • @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @nabberwar said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals
    Refering people as tumors isn't a flaw? Congratulations on showing your bias as well mate. Your aren't worth the time talking too as well.

    Have a good one.

    Meh toxic, tumor, whatever. If you wanna act like NO pc guys are out there being toxic, beating up on kids, tormenting autistic players, when you've got streamers being egged on to do it by thier toxic fans then you've got your head in the sand.

    And if you're not able to tell what applies to you and take any slight against anyone whos a pc gamer personally then you should definitely ignore me.

    ????.....because XBoX players are never toxic and never beat up on kids or tormenting autistic players?

    Dude how many times can you prove your being biased?

  • @needsmokes The difference is so small that waves, wind, weather, and the kraken/meg/skelly ships have a far greater impact on PvP.

    Most of the time people only use the "they have an advantage" as an excuse because they can't accept that maybe they just aren't as good.

  • @xultanis-dragon said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @nabberwar said in Time to disable crossplay:

    @natiredgals
    Refering people as tumors isn't a flaw? Congratulations on showing your bias as well mate. Your aren't worth the time talking too as well.

    Have a good one.

    Meh toxic, tumor, whatever. If you wanna act like NO pc guys are out there being toxic, beating up on kids, tormenting autistic players, when you've got streamers being egged on to do it by thier toxic fans then you've got your head in the sand.

    And if you're not able to tell what applies to you and take any slight against anyone whos a pc gamer personally then you should definitely ignore me.

    ????.....because XBoX players are never toxic and never beat up on kids or tormenting autistic players?

    Dude how many times can you prove your being biased?

    lol how many of them stream it like the streamer that supposedly "saved sot" according to his toxic fanbase? Lets not get into bias... every xbox player is casual according to many here, every xbox player is a kid, or only wants to pve, or is just bad at the game blah blah blah.. biases are all over this forum but yea only chastise those that highlight toxic pc guys. Little pot and kettle action there buddy.

  • @natiredgals said in [Time to disable crossplay](/forum

    lol how many of them stream it like the streamer that supposedly "saved sot" according to his toxic fanbase? Lets not get into bias... every xbox player is casual according to many here, every xbox player is a kid, or only wants to pve, or is just bad at the game blah blah blah.. biases are all over this forum but yea only chastise those that highlight toxic pc guys. Little pot and kettle action there buddy.

    What do you means lets not get into Bias? You are being bias. You and a lot of other people who agree with the opt out option. We pointed out how you guys are being biased over and over and you just ignore what is being said and keep doing what we are calling you guys out on.

    We don't say all xbox are casuals do we? Nope. We label the casuals as casuals. PC player casuals and XBoX player casuals. Unless you didn't know, there are some PC players who want PvE servers because guess what, not every PC player is exactly the same, however you guys label all PC players in the same boat over and over.

    Then when you guys use the argument, "Well there are PC players that agree with us!!" and then we say "Well there are XBoX players that agree with us." You guys just turn around and completely ignore that one fact.

    "PC players are the only ones who disagree with this." Completely ignoring that there is a portion of your own community that believes that there are little advantages and that all you have to do is get better at the game.

    So again, be prejudice or biased all you want. If you get salty that you and others are being called out on it, then so be it. Be salty.

  • @xultanis-dragon the funny part is you really believe that the bias is a one way street on this forum.

  • @natiredgals

    The only ones I see being biased is the XBoX community against PC players. The prejudice is strong with you I feel.

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