New Kick Attack Proposal

  • So I was watching a streamer today who got kegged. We've all seen it, someone climbs the ladder with a boom boom boi and you die and your ship gets sunk. The ONLY possible way to not have you ship sunken in that moment is if you can get a defuse off, and that is only if they drop the keg. I am proposing a kick mechanic to literally kick people who are on your ladders off. If you see one of those pesky boarders having a sweet little climb up your ladders, a well timed kick can send them swimming with the sharks. This kick can also be used to break an opponents sword defense, similar to the kicks used in Mordhau. Let me know what you think!

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  • I love pushback attacks, although I feel it would remove the utility of the blunderbuss and might be bit unbalanced overall. The sword dash also pushbacks though... Maybe clicking attack while blocking could initiate a smaller knockback than a charge, but also put you in a cooldown state?

  • @bloodybil I'm totally okay with you. A little knockback when you attack while blocking could be cool. But for balance the game, I think, if one day this knockback exist, we should not be able to do heavy attack while blocking anymore.

  • @reidjit said in New Kick Attack Proposal:

    @bloodybil I'm totally okay with you. A little knockback when you attack while blocking could be cool. But for balance the game, I think, if one day this knockback exist, we should not be able to do heavy attack while blocking anymore.

    Oh right I totally forgot that you can block and charge... maybe instead of block+move to dodge, you could block+jump to initiate it? More of a defensive push than an offensive one.

  • Rare should make it so you are able to shoot someone in the face on your ladder safely. The keg is on their back after all. Currently the game reads the player walking up the ladder carrying the keg in his arms in front of them, even though the model shows the keg on his back.

    That’s why shooting a keg on someone’s back on a ladder doesn’t work, but when you hit them at top of ladder KABOOOM!!!

  • I position my barrels so that if someone climbs the ladder I can blow up the crows nest before they reach it.

  • Sounds cool, but my way of thinking is this:

    Boarding a ship with a keg is one of many ways to keg someone, and while I think we all understand this, you must know that adding a counter to this specific attack encourages alternate options to be used more often. So while you can now kick someone off a ladder, it is more likely they will detonate the keg next to or beneath your ship, likely without you knowing beforehand. This evens the odds, so unless a kick is useful for more than what other weapons can do already (knockback/ignore blocking) it isn't a well rounded feature, by means of logic.

    Not trying to be argumentative, so sorry if I rub you the wrong way. I just feel a feature as such would require some more love to actually benefit the game in the long run. =)

  • Maybe an alternative to "kick" would be a charged shoulder attack? I think it would be easier to implement, if you have no weapon equipped it would work the same as a sword lunge does now (less distance covered though)

  • @hisdarkestfear said in New Kick Attack Proposal:

    Sounds cool, but my way of thinking is this:

    Boarding a ship with a keg is one of many ways to keg someone, and while I think we all understand this, you must know that adding a counter to this specific attack encourages alternate options to be used more often. So while you can now kick someone off a ladder, it is more likely they will detonate the keg next to or beneath your ship, likely without you knowing beforehand. This evens the odds, so unless a kick is useful for more than what other weapons can do already (knockback/ignore blocking) it isn't a well rounded feature, by means of logic.

    Not trying to be argumentative, so sorry if I rub you the wrong way. I just feel a feature as such would require some more love to actually benefit the game in the long run. =)

    This is still a step in the right direction, as kegs blown up on the hull are easier to deal with, than one from the inside out that likely kills more of your crew, if they chased the guy lol. I think that would put the powerful nature of kegs in a really good place tbh.

    Boarding in general is far to OP and needs to be changed. Raisable ladders, changes to spawning and mermaids, etc. should be looked at and tested.

  • I like the idea of a kick while weaponless, or possibly a bunt with a firearm.

  • @matrixxaxex
    I would love a kick attack too. But i wanna point out if you got boarded by someone with a keg you already made a mistake.

    If i know the crew has seen me commin with a barrel i light it before i grab the ladder. So that kick attack wouldnt save u anyway 💣

  • Great idea. This plus what if you make kick attacks a thing that can be done in the air and while jumping? Maybe a jumping kick that does damage based on momentum? So you could jump at people from higher for more damage. Maybe you could even kick with momentum after being fired from a cannon, if you're really good or super lucky you might be able to land a kick on another player's deck. I like it. This idea has legs OP ;)

  • I would imagine it being like a kick attack in the Mordhau game. That could work really well. It could disrupt players shooting at you too. Maybe even counter someone locking you down with a cutlass.

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