Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.

@logansdadtoo said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

@rattlyfob
Your 1st point is incorrect.
PC players DO NOT have to pay for xbox live access!!
Console players pay £40 per year to be on secure policed servers, pc players pay nothing & face much less consequences.

Yep, already was corrected prior to your post, thank you though :)

If a console player gets caught cheating they can face having their console banned (making it virtually useless!). A PC player just gets his GT banned, but as they didn't pay for the access, they can just start another GT & carry on!

Pirate is lost as well as it is associated with the gammertag so.this would be the equivalent as a reset, additionally the same strategy could be used on console as far as xbox home sharing and making a new gamertag (said gamertag comes with a month of xbox live as well) but still the problem remains of being reset and in a game with such a high exp demand for getting to 50 that reset is a big discouragement.

As i play on both PC & Xbox & have been helping with the testing for over a year, i'm quite aware of the differing play styles & tactics. I am an average PVPer who can look after himself.
As i play on both i can also tell that PC players have a large advantage in PVP due to KB+M vs Controller.
If they can balance the input devices then fine, if they can't then we need to be given an option of playing in just xbox servers or just controller servers, to make things fair!

Again, I have never fought a player or played with one where I could tell they were console or pc. I understand and am aware of exploits PCs can use and the edge that keyboard and mouse gives players on paper, but have not personally noticed a distinct edge any player has had over me.

@steelroots55 You make alot of good points and I can only speak for myself when I say this as someone playing on the Xbox One. In my perception of sea of thieves, one of the things that convinced me to buy it was console players and PC players being unified and not being able to tell who's on what platform unless the PC player uses text chat or is hacking. I think it's one of the things that makes this a really next gen game because being able to crossplay with another platform seamlessly is the future of what gaming should become. And until sony pulls that stick out of their hind quarters Console and PC is the only crossplay we're going to get. I understand that the point and shoot accuracy of a mouse is a large advantage in shooters but sea of thieves feels like the exception to me. And I don't think all the people complaining need to Git Gud, but I also think that there might be some people over-reacting or exaggerating how big of an advantage pc players have in this game. I'd say that people using a controller have an easier time controlling the ships, and I've heard some pc players say the same thing but none of them ever calling for the end of crossplay. I dont know, the game was advertised as no compromise crossplay and seems to think that the balance between pc and console is acceptable enough to not have it toggleable and I trust them since I'm not a developer and this is the most fun I've had playing PVP in any game, especially a game where PVP is always on and you never know what will happen.

@logansdadtoo PC players hackers need to be getting hardware banned like they do on overwatch I dont think anyone is arguing against that.

Edit: And I believe if they get their GT banned they have to re-buy the game though I could be wrong about that, but since you can only buy Sea of Thieves digitally for PC it'd be tied to your now banned account.

@logansdadtoo said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

@rattlyfob
If you get caught cheating on xbox (especially if it was the type of hacks used in SOT) you will get a GT & possibly console ban. Meaning your Gamertag (that you bought the gold account for at £40) is gone & your console cannot connect to xbox live, basically rendering your console useless.
So xbox player loses GT with Xbox live access & possibly the use of his console, they cannot just start another gamertag because they will have a console that is hardware banned & will not connect to xbox live, & because for an xbox player to create & use another GT they would again need to purchase another xbox live subscription!
So not quite as simple as starting a new GT for xbox players is it?

BLUF: The progress lost is more important than the actual ban as trolling around as a level 0 player only offers so much enjoyment before they move on to trolling in other games.

No, it is pretty simple, again you can get a free month long subscription to xb live when you make a new gamertag. I have admittedly done this a few times always comming back to my origional for nostalgic purposes. You can overcome a console ban by reseting the xbox to factory defaults. (Its a pain but you can do it)

A hardware ban us as simple as an ip ban for a computer, not sure how far RARE will go but the option is there.

All of that being beside the point, do people cheat? Sure. Is it easier to cheat on pc? Yes. Any gamertag ban (or other ban) may have ways to work around it, but that workaround results in your pirate and progress being reset which would be the bigger problem.

@logansdadtoo well, again I can only speak for myself and I'll say that it wouldn't really get under my skin because I'm used to getting beat, when it happens I just pick myself up and say. I'll do better next time and usually I do, I kill the person who killed me or I die trying. And then I try again or I retreat. That's just how games go sometimes.

@logansdadtoo said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

@rattlyfob
You cannot overcome a console ban by resetting it!
A console ban is a ban on the console hardware, so factory resetting it does nothing.
If you get console banned, you CANNOT use your xbox at all online, so cannot create new live accounts, gamertags or anything. You are basically left with an expensive paperweight!

Have you had a console ban?

@luciansanchez82 said in Something needs to be done about the trolls.:

@daddy-sanctus A report button might be helpful, though there's also the potential for it to be entirely pointless.

If there was a button we could press to report a player in game, imagine how many salty players would spam it just because they got beaten, then imagine trying to sift through all those false reports before finding a genuine one. True over time "repeat offenders" would probably start to show a pattern that could be acted upon, but that would take an awful lot of time and resources.

There is actually a report feature on this website that allows you to report toxic players, as well as given you the chance to describe what happened and provide screen shots/video captures to back up your claim.

Takes more effort on our behalf, but it allows us to form a proper report on the toxic player and better highlights the exact instance to Rare.

Here's a link to the page I mean. https://support.seaofthieves.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new?ticket_form_id=246988

Ah yeah, I forgot about that page. I actually did use that the other night when I experienced my first griefer. I guess the in game report button idea would JUST be for teammates, and not necessarily to report other players. It would most certainly cut down on how many reports actually went through.

@logansdadtoo said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

@gem-pheenix Next time you are in a crew ask your crewmates if any are on pc.
If they are stand next to them & do a synchronised 360 degree turn. Then both stand in front of the ship facing forwards, do a 180 degree spin & shoot the bell outside the captains quarters.
The pc player will win both of these quite easily & this is the problem, a pc player can turn,aim & shoot quicker & more accurately than a controller.
Yes, this isn't a competitive shooter & it shouldn't matter too much, but it does!
If you have spent 2 hours defeating a fort, or doing voyages & then you lose it all due to the minutest of advantages then it will start to get under your skin.
At the end of the day this is a game, there will always be winners & losers in a battle, but knowing you were at a lost due to control device just isn't right!!

PC players can use game/family share so many users can use 1 copy of the game. (up to 10 i believe!)

It takes xbox players, with a maxed out sensitivity about 1.30 seconds to do a complete 360 spin. 4.30 seconds to a 360 while ADS with a pistol. A grueling 18 seconds to do a complete 360 with the sniper while ADS. Any PC players out there want to test this and time it? I'm curious how close the two platforms are.

@logansdadtoo said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

@rattlyfob
On xbox 360 i got console banned for using hacked game saves.
So yes, i have been console banned & you cannot reverse it!

If you use a 2nd 360 that isnt banned you can access the base code of the 2nd one to change the console ID of the first and reset it as if it were a new xbox. :)

@holezinya Gunpowder barrels wont kill a person underwater man.

@mik29 PC players suffer against the Cheaters just the same as we do. We aren't on an island alone of Xbox Vs PC cheaters. It's Pirates Vs Cheaters.

I just think it should be optional. Personally, I will keep playing with both since I play on both....but I could see the benefit of allowing a choice.