Solo sessions

@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:

@travis354 sure, this game was released as a PVP game. That doesn't mean it can't be played PVE. In fact, I've seen this same discussion about lots of games, but this game more than any other would be a really good game PVE for people who just want to chill with their friends and do the adventures and explore the lore.

You can do PvE but don't expect Rare to hold your hand whilst you do it. It's a PvPvE shared world where anything can happen at any moment and that will never change. If you can defend your loot or your ship then that's your problem.

Sinking ships is also part of an adventure.

Why do I have to put up with people not wanting to fight?
This isn't a sailing similator, not a single player.

@benh6803 said in Solo sessions:

Why do I have to put up with people who don’t even play the game for the lore or the adventure but instead the decide to try and sink the first ship they sea. I just had a different crew ask me to join their alliance and as soon as I join, they decide to kill me and sink my ship. This happened when I was just about to sell Briggsys skull to Madame Olivia but I couldn’t because I ended up rage quitting because of that toxic crew. [mod edit]

Incredible isnt it? Pirates in a pirate game!

I tell you what, I never expected to ever see pirates in a pirate game.

Totally want a refund.

I thought this was a 17th century sailing simulator.

I thought the Thieves part of the title was that I stole my sloop and sailed it here.

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@rowge-gaming In a 2019 dev update.

Private Servers

Here is a link to the YouTube video. He starts talking about Sea of Champions and events around 3:30 and continues to talk about it and private servers for about 2 1/2 minutes.

@rowge-gaming Why are you so desperate for "friendly servers" in a pvpve game about pirates?

@rowge-gaming It was not released as a PvP game. It has always been a PvPve game. I PvE on a nightly basis, rarely PvP.

@benh6803 well the solution to that is the ever present answer: get good. if i quit every time better or smarter players killed me I wouldnt get anywhere, its okay to rage quit occasionally but its important to keep trying. a really important tip is to invest in a mic, invite your alliance to a party. if they accept then youre in a good spot. if they dont, just watch out.

@rowge-gaming I do not think you understand SOT was not released as a PVP game. It is a PvPvE game which is its own type.

PvPve- is Player vs Player vs Environment (AI), this means that there are threats other than players, and killing players is not required, however is still possible and other players are still threats, but not the only ones.

PvP is important as is PvE they need each other to keep the game alive. If you split them up its just not the same game.

@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:

@combatxkitty All I'm saying is some players don't want to play against other players. It wouldn't hurt the game if they had servers to play on their own. In fact, it would help the game because then those players would not be taking any of the few precious slots on the PVP servers.

What PvP servers? There are no PvP servers except Arena. You seem to be having an issue understanding this. They are PvPvE servers and many people are not just PvP'er.s They are PvPvE'ers which is why they bought the game. So I am not sure why you think PvPve'ers want to be in a lobby with only PvP'ers. Many do not want to be in a lobby with only PvE'ers either because they would find it boring.

Right now, you have some players on servers (there's only 6 slots per server I think?) that just avoid all the other players. That doesn't really contribute to the PVP, does it?

Who cares if it doesnt? Sole PvP is what Arena is for.

It is in fact the opposite of what you said there, the game would benefit from them being separated.

I have had enough server merger increases happen to me since the community was split with cross play opt out. Sure lets add in yet another community split. Server mergers are annoying because after each one the game glitches I have to kill my pirate. That is actually my biggest gripe against it. Second being that the vision of the game never included a safe space to become PL which by the way myself and others did not have. Which leads to another issue if given a safe haven to grind to become PL many would take it which would leave the PvPvE servers off balance and not nearly as exciting.

Well I guess I would not mind if in these safe servers no xp would be gained and fraction of the gold. I mean if people just want to "chill" they should not mind no xp.

I do not understand till this day why anyone would buy a game like this if they do not want to play against other players. When I do not want to play with others I load up Sims 4.

@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:

I genuinely don't understand the push back for this kind of request, it doesn't affect people who do want to play PVP (nobody is suggesting getting rid of PVP), it would make these players happy, and would probably increase the overall number of people who play the game which would be good for everyone.

I genuinely dont understand how you dont understand that risk is part of the game and Rare have stated that in many of there early YouTube videos. PvEers are just asking to have it easy and want all the reward without the risk. It will never happen and the devs have confirmed that in a livestream. Just learn to protect yourself instead of clogging up the forums with the same stupid request that the devs have already said NO to.

@captain-arcanic said in Solo sessions:

@supersnipper60 The game would be better to devalue the Tall Tales items (except maybe in the case of the Gold Hoarders skull which comes after the Tall Tale is completed).

I feel that Tall Tales should have some exemption from the standard (oh, let's call it entrepreneurial) nature of pirates.

I like having the gold payout after completing a Tall Tale. It is the incentive not to attack other players, and to also take better care of watching the horizon. I think that they should maybe bump the TT payout to 10k gold to make the risks higher.

@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:

@rowge-gaming I also forgot to mention that there are people that currently don't play the game because it is PVP, and those people would play if they had a choice to play without the PVP aspect of it.

The game will never become only PvE. It will always be a PvPvE game. The people that don't play because of the PvP aspect will never choose to play Sea of Thieves as PvP will always be a part of the game.

@rowge-gaming When will this get to you and other players? There will never be a PvE only server. PvP is player vs player. Yes it is relevant to PvPvE.

This could all be fixed if they would make an Alliance faction. Something where you got grade levels for cashing in gold,merchant, skulls and Athena while under an alliance

@xx-mirth-xx said in Solo sessions:

Are you looking for a game to relax in, then the private servers, which will be coming, are for you. You can sail to your hearts content, you just wont get any gold, rep, commendations, titles, etc.

This is probably the best option for the future.

@rowge-gaming said in Solo sessions:

@supersnipper60 I literally know several people that stopped playing because of the other players, but would play if there were PVE server.

Ok that happens. My one friend convinced me to buy Forza. I bought Forza and realized racing games just wernt my thing. I stopped playing, Forza is doing fine without me.

Also, all the comments that "it's not PVP, it's PVPVE" are not relevant. The point is playing against other players.

Actually it is but you just do not want it to be since it does not suit your stance.

@rowge-gaming Ok , you just had me all kinds of confused with your repeat calling this a PvP game and calling servers PvP servers when its not just that.

Anyways yes you are right if the OP just wants to sail around by himself and not interact with others then sure I do not see any issue with that as long as on these servers as I said before no rep.

I mean it might be fun to be able to invite friends to a server and just goof around on multiple ships.

@benh6803 said in Solo sessions:

Why do I have to put up with people who don’t even play the game for the lore or the adventure but instead the decide to try and sink the first ship they sea. I just had a different crew ask me to join their alliance and as soon as I join, they decide to kill me and sink my ship. This happened when I was just about to sell Briggsys skull to Madame Olivia but I couldn’t because I ended up rage quitting because of that toxic crew. [mod edit]

I agree that a solution would be cool where you could watch everything again like cut scenes you missed due to player interventions. It is sometimes annoying and I fully understand that not everyone likes it.

My main reason to bully players or to ruin someone else's Tall Tales was to get some distraction or was done out of boredom, but I still think this is detrimental to games and communities. To separate for Tall Tales or to distinguish by other means would be an option too.

And to those "all-need-to-PvP" lovers: No worries! Should I see you in game, I make you one of my cushion boys, no matter how you call or feel yourself. Thumbs up! Sit down.

@combatxkitty said in Solo sessions:

Anyways yes you are right if the OP just wants to sail around by himself and not interact with others then sure I do not see any issue with that as long as on these servers as I said before no rep.

I mean it might be fun to be able to invite friends to a server and just goof around on multiple ships.

This has a lot of appeal. Races, private battles, Scavenger hunts, Capture the Flag. This would even be a great place to have PvP practice sessions with friends, so when you did play in the regular servers, you had improved combat skills.

ADDED: How great would it be to watch the best of the best go against each other in a private server death match? Like Arena but with teams of ships and the whole map?! That would be good viewing.