The rank of Pirate Legend is not deserving of its name

  • Flying Poopla
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    Pirate Legend is supposed to be something prestigious and should be something that requires actual skill to accomplish. There is really nothing separating a Pirate Legend from any regular person playing the game besides time invested. Why are there no intermediate ranks between regular pirate and PL? Where is Pirate Lord or something like that? It just seems like a shortsighted ranking system.

    If PL is the max rank, there should at least be something like a modifier that can appended to the title based on feats of skill or dedication. For instance, maybe getting 10000 player kills and 5000 ships sunk will give you the modified title of "Barbaric Pirate Legend". I know that is a lot, but these titles should at least have some skill basis to distinguish actual legends from others. Nobody even cares if they come across a legend because there is literally no skill significance to the title.

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  • themisterff1
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    I wholeheartedly agree with you man. Pirate Legend has absolutely no meaning to it at this point.

  • KnightRegius
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    @flying-poopla Well it's up to those who have earned the title
    To make it mean something. Also even an unskilled player would be able to achieve X amount of kills eventually so even something like that would have no meaning either.

    I like the idea though. Adding veriations to the title would allow people to show what they think makes them legendary.

    Legendary banana croncher

  • canadianmuscle3
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    I completely agree. There should be something in the end to tell the difference between the different types of legends after you get the grind over. Then again we need something more to work for at legend status. And to have different titles to do that would be extremely easy for them to add.

  • Dyornos
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    My friend and I won a battle that lasted over 2 hours for a skeleton fort. We fought against 4 galleons, 2 of which had legends onboard, and a sloop. In the end, after a epic fight, we won the fort and got all the loot. We felt like we did something legendary here.

    Now I'm a legend, my friend isn't yet, but this happend the day before I turned legend. Its not about skill, its about the story's you create and things you do.

    (1 galleon just got sunk)

  • Flying Poopla
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    @dyornos Yeah, the story carries it for about a week. I have been a PL for probably a month now and it is just the same old stuff. When I first started I would be weary of coming across a PL. I was like, "wow, better be on my best game here because this dude is a legend." The luster has worn off and now I barely even care if I come across another PL because most of them are pretty bad at the game. Legend is not a title that should be thrown around lightly and the fact that just grinding can get you this title is kind of a slap in the face. At least adding modifiers that are skill based would help to separate out those who should be feared from those who shouldn't.

  • Skulliah
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    Boatswain
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    @flying-poopla said

    Pirate Legend is supposed to be something prestigious and should be something that requires actual skill to accomplish.

    No, it's what you and other people are supposing.

    To me it's just a way to complete my own journey. My legend it's just for the other know that I played the game a lot and I have so many stories to tell.

    As Merrick said: "It's just stories!"

    By the way, the commendations and other titles are there to show your skills.

  • Flying Poopla
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    @knight-regius Yeah, I agree that you could still achieve that as an unskilled player, but it would be much harder to do than simply grinding a quest for three factions over and over. Maybe something like get 20 consecutive ship sinks without sinking or scuttling and you get a Juggernaut title. Maybe Legend Slayer for killing x amount of PLs. Maybe Sentinel of the Sea for coming and protecting ships under attack by other pirates. Things that you can actually work towards that are more than just "found x skulls" or "found x chests." They don't necessarily have to be variations of existing titles, but I think a combo of title augments as well as skill based/environment engagement titles would help to not only show skill, but provide a sort of unspoken lore for pirates you come across within the game.

  • Tiferet X
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    @flying-poopla ha detto in The rank of Pirate Legend is not deserving of its name:

    Pirate Legend is supposed to be something prestigious and should be something that requires actual skill to accomplish.

    Hahahaha.... PL actualy it's people who have grinded 50-50-50 and most of them are noobs cheaters. Not all but a large part sadly.

  • StubbierBell598

    @flying-poopla yep. All pirate legend means is neck beard, unemployed, or in middle school lol.

  • aliasmask
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    I kind of agree that Pirate Legend probably isn't the right term to use. I'm also wondering where we go from here when they raise the rank caps or add other factions to rank up in. I know they weren't expecting people to rush to Pirate Legend so now they're stuck with coming up with more impressive names for experienced pirates to keep it interesting.

  • KnightRegius
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    @flying-poopla I love the idea of reseting challenges 'x amount of ships without sinking' would be alot more of a earned title.

    I'm not sure if something like this will come to the game since it seems as if the game is trying to lower player aggression with its current events

  • KING DEKA
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    Yeah I agree add more Titles like Pirate Lord or Pirate God or something to separate fresh PL‘s from others who are many months PL ! Rare have to do more for PL‘s like special Factions or Chests with unique very rare Cosmetics!

  • JatFant
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    @king-deka PLs really need more cosmetics, specially a more deadly stealth outfit and stuff for the ships similar.

    I feel like i am going to a rave party with that unicorn with shining horn on the ship and that glowing clothes.

  • Dragonsire2016
    Seafarer

    @jatfant You think that's bad wait until they bring micro transactions into the game, and they are better than of the rewards you can earn in the game....what will be the point of gold, leveling or anything at that point?

    Micro transactions don't belong in a game based on cosmetics, because generally it kills any reason to play and unlock content. If they add double xp etc as paid options, that will also tick off people.

    The development team has an amazing foundation of a game...they just don't seem to know what to do with it. They want the game to be too many different things. They need to just pick a focus and stick with it.

  • DaveyJay1984
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    There is a new title to unlock every 5 points along each of the 3 different factions. Then there are all of the commendation titles. Oh... and then each of the bilge rat titles gained in the time limited events.
    Seems like a lot of titles before Pirate Legend to me.

  • Glannigan
    Sailor

    When I see a Pirate Legend I think

    “Ewwww....gross....that dude spent like 2 weeks straight gathering chickens 🐓 how BORING!!!!”

    Then I feel sorry for them....

  • Tre Oni
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    @stubbierbell598 said in The rank of Pirate Legend is not deserving of its name:

    @flying-poopla yep. All pirate legend means is neck beard, unemployed, or in middle school lol.

    L**o some of you get all as upset as little middle schoolers though I swear.

    I hit PL. Full time job, girlfriend, got a promotion, didn't have to neglect a single thing in my life.

    No "cheating" as some like to claim, no afking, nothing.

    Kind of find all the PL hate hilarious. Any mention of a PL and people/topics just turn so angry, and throw around some pretty stupid assumptions and insults lol

    Makes PL more enjoyable as a rank to me that simply having it triggers some people (which I dont understand, but hey haha)

    For those of you that get hateful about it.. why?

    Are you mad you can't/won't hit it whatever the case may be?

    If not, or if you don't even care about it, why do you care enough to feel any type of way about how other people have spent their time in game and what they've managed to do with however much time?

  • neur0mNcr
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    @flying-poopla Oh brother, would you people just CAN it already!!!! You spammed your way to 50 and you did some Athenas quests and got glowing clothes, ship skins and a title. Now you want more....QUIT CRYING OVER MORE CONTENT! You think you selfishly deserve more than what you already have?! YOU. ARE. PATHETIC!

  • Tre Oni
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    @the-portalstorm said in The rank of Pirate Legend is not deserving of its name:

    @flying-poopla Oh brother, would you people just CAN it already!!!! You spammed your way to 50 and you did some Athenas quests and got glowing clothes, ship skins and a title. Now you want more....QUIT CRYING OVER MORE CONTENT! You think you selfishly deserve more than what you already have?! YOU. ARE. PATHETIC!

    I mean... people who haven't even come close to PL complain they want more content as well.

    How is one more selfish than the other?

    On one end, people who've sort of hit "the goal" obviously would desire more going forward.

    On the other, people who haven't want more on the way there.

    How is either pathetic? Lol

  • neur0mNcr
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    @tre-oni That's not the point! The. game. is. not. meant. to. be. beaten. Basta. IT IS MEANT TO BE ENJOYED. And people like this guy that complain about more content are SO greedy. The developers are making more and more content for everyone. FREE of charge. You millenials are so greedy. Be. Patient. believe it or not, it DOES take time to make more content. SHOCKER!

  • DaveyJay1984
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    @the-portalstorm You are making an unfair assumption about the generational gap between you and other members of this forum and your personal attacks don't really meet the expectation of the code.
    I would suggest you move on from this thread.
    Edit. For clarity. I don't argue with your other points. Just the way you present them and the personal attacks based upon assumption.

  • Tre Oni
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    @the-portalstorm said in The rank of Pirate Legend is not deserving of its name:

    @tre-oni That's not the point! The. game. is. not. meant. to. be. beaten. Basta. IT IS MEANT TO BE ENJOYED. And people like this guy that complain about more content are SO greedy. The developers are making more and more content for everyone. FREE of charge. You millenials are so greedy. Be. Patient. believe it or not, it DOES take time to make more content. SHOCKER!

    What kind of post is this rofl.

    You missed the point entirely.

  • DISLEX fx
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    @skulliah said in The rank of Pirate Legend is not deserving of its name:

    @flying-poopla said

    Pirate Legend is supposed to be something prestigious and should be something that requires actual skill to accomplish.

    No, it's what you and other people are supposing.

    To me it's just a way to complete my own journey. My legend it's just for the other know that I played the game a lot and I have so many stories to tell.

    As Merrick said: "It's just stories!"

    By the way, the commendations and other titles are there to show your skills.

    Well said.

  • StubbierBell598

    @tre-oni dude. How long did it take you? How many hours played?

    That is all it takes to get PL lol. Free time. Who has that much free time? Couch potatoes.

    If you a potato that's cool idc no need to be salty lol

    I dont care about being PL because i don't want to spend 300 hours playing delivery boy lol.

    If there was more to it, then maybe I would care about being one but atm when I see a PL i see a potato

  • xCALYPT0x
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    @Flying-Poopla I wholeheartedly disagree. If that happens we can kiss peaceful encounters goodbye because people need to farm kills to hit PL.

    @stubbierbell598 We are now 3 months after launch? Sure it requires free time but I made it playing 2 hours a day since launch and a little extra on Saturdays. It's not like the game came out last month...

  • StubbierBell598

    @xcalypt0x thats true, I dont play that much tbh. I'm lucky if i can get 4 hours in a week. It took me since release to get to 26/26/26 and I haven't went up in a while.

    I dont think ill ever get PL, but i feel like it would be better for the game if it wasn't 100% grinding. Wish they had like a bunch of realllllly tough missions or some type of PvP thing.

    The way it is makes me wonder why people do it

  • messiaH x6
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    @themisterff1 and it wont for a long time from my understanding end game content wont be coming for a while

  • Tre Oni
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    @stubbierbell598 said in The rank of Pirate Legend is not deserving of its name:

    @tre-oni dude. How long did it take you? How many hours played?

    That is all it takes to get PL lol. Free time. Who has that much free time? Couch potatoes.

    If you a potato that's cool idc no need to be salty lol

    I dont care about being PL because i don't want to spend 300 hours playing delivery boy lol.

    If there was more to it, then maybe I would care about being one but atm when I see a PL i see a potato

    I guess thats on you then if thats how you want to look at it idk. It took time for sure, but play maybe 2 - 3 hours a night a few week after work, play a little more on days off when not busy. Even still had a handful of weeks where I didn't feel like playing.

    Ideally going forward PL gets more content exclusively for it that does give people a reason to want it more. I don't think that's selfish, as others seem to.

  • Yashiero

    This is the most accurate post I have read about this game. I myself have been on the grind to get PL, and have faced PL's in my quest and they are not that good. My crew and I can take on 3 ships at once and be the last one standing, unless there is someone of equal skill, but that is hard to come by.
    There should defiantly be a new raking system when you hip PL.

  • xCALYPT0x
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    @stubbierbell598 said in The rank of Pirate Legend is not deserving of its name:

    @xcalypt0x thats true, I dont play that much tbh. I'm lucky if i can get 4 hours in a week. It took me since release to get to 26/26/26 and I haven't went up in a while.

    I dont think ill ever get PL, but i feel like it would be better for the game if it wasn't 100% grinding. Wish they had like a bunch of realllllly tough missions or some type of PvP thing.

    The way it is makes me wonder why people do it

    I'm not opposed to them adding some difficult, non-grind based tasks that need to be completed to reach PL, as long as those tasks aren't PvP related.

    I don't think Rare would even consider adding PvP requirements to Pirate Legend. They have been pretty clear that they want encounters to have potential for inter-crew cooperation along with PvP.

  • WarOnPants2664
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    @dyornos except Op's point is despite your achievement, the game-world doesn't care. If you had simply showed up to the fort and shot skeletons with the cannons while a friend runs in circles kiting the dumb AF ai, you would have been rewarded/recognized exactly the same. In fact you are punished for doing adventurous, interesting and/or difficult things. How much longer did it take you to fight all those ships? PL is nothing but "how much loot did you turn in". Doing things that are difficult, like say, only taking loot from other players is severely penalized by the games "progression system". Mindlessly grinding by doing no more than is absolutely necessary is what this game rewards most. The only reason it's not as big a deal as the "goal" is because PL is worthless.

  • Ghostpaw
    Legend

    Killing others is meaningless unless you gained something for your trouble. I do not want to see them incentivize blood-l**t just for the sake of it. You become pirate legend by 1) taking items from others, and 2) not having your items taken by others. If you are not turning in items for reputation then the world of Sot is indifferent to your efforts.

    I am not suggesting you should not enjoy the game your way. If you want to sink ships for the giggles, have at it. On the other hand, unless it yielded you something, why should you earn anything ? You committed vandalism and possibly murder, but not thievery.

  • WeePaperBoats
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    I still wholeheartedly feel that the first Pirate Legend is the one who pretty much made the whole "PL Status" into some shame. Totally botched the whole aspect of the game to "climb" to be the first PL. If any of you know who that is, I'm sure you'd agree to some extent.

  • Noble 29
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    @flying-poopla Much agreed. Plus many PL's seem to think they "own" the servers due to their invested time. I've run into in game and witnessed out of game very pompous and elitist "legends" who think they're gods of some sort because they have no real life responsibility (hence why they can spend 6-8 hours per day grinding). We definitely need something better to make ranks more meaningful. I feel as though there should be some sort of in-game reputation system as well.

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