@galactic-geek What you said is AMAZING! And I can’t agree more. It’s so crazy how many people come on here complaining about being killed and losing there loot, it’s part of the game. As for me and my experiences, they are mostly good, I can usually find at least one friendly player with a mic and are open to corporate with me in my first hour of playing. And if your looking for friends try the “looking for group” feature on Xbox for SOT it’s very helpful. And there’s many times where I find friendly, awesome people in open crews. I Hope this helps some people who are disappointed with there experience in SOT, trust me it will get better!
¡¡¡The pirate code is a fallacy!!!
It is completely absurd to enter and see the little objectivity of some in this community, if they create a PvE mode it does not affect anyone, on the contrary it enriches the quality of the game since there are more people who agree with Kuyo like for example me. So let's be more objective and consider the wishes of others and not only ourselves. I read someone comment: the Devs should open another server to place larger ships and was the same person who commented previously: they should not make a separate server for PvE, then what that person wants is that the other players do not advance and that is Pretty hypocritical and selfish.
@shellybarley699 said in ¡¡¡The pirate code is a fallacy!!!:
So let's be more objective and consider the wishes of others and not only ourselves.
That's ironic when it comes from people asking the game to be fundamentally changed for them because they can't adapt themselves to it, despite having all the tools at their disposal to do so.
The reason I don’t like the idea of Pve servers is because it will split the player base again. If people had the option to play on a pve server most of them would chose it instead, even I would use it in some situations.
Understand that if they add pve servers SOT as we know it will be no more! If people want to pvp they would do arena, but if they wanted to do absolutely anything else in the game they would choose pve servers. Thats not a interesting shared world experience it’s just a no stakes peaceful grinding paradise. Thats not what rare had envisioned for SOT and is why rare will never add PvE servers. Sorry guys :(.
@shellybarley699
I think its selfish to come to a forum and and ask the devs to change the core of the game. Alot of ppl have good arguments for a pve mode, but the irony of your post is laughable@shellybarley699 said in ¡¡¡The pirate code is a fallacy!!!:
if they create a PvE mode it does not affect anyone
This is just false. If they create a PvE only mode there will be more empty ships roaming purely for PvP in Adventure mode. While fun, that would also mean less reward for sinking those ships and less friendly interactions. Worst case scenario would be a PvE mode and shared characters between the two modes which would result in the game being like GTA, where you have a lot of players making money in friendly servers who just join the open servers to f up your day when they get bored. Which btw is why I can't be bothered to play GTA anymore.
if i was not adapted to the game i simply would not play it. I'm just saying that creating a PvE mode would not change the essence of the game after all I'm not asking you to change the theme or delete the PvP mode, just make an additional PvE mode for the other 50% of the community I'm also giving feedback as the devs ask, I'm sure they would be very grateful for my honesty and my innovative idea to improve the quality of the game and keep their players happy. Those who comment against this great idea should not be selfish and just want a PvP mode because those of us who want a PvE mode, sometimes we play with you because of obligation because there is no PvE server and in that there is no fun. You for to be open minded as i am being dispite my wish for a PvE mode for if I wasnt open minded i’d stop platino the game.
To conclude it is unecessary to try and Shame my feedback for if the devs wouldnt consider it in the fiesta place it should have been mentioned right when you’re about to purchase the game:).@kuyofaaz73 feedback is for players to be able to voice their thoughts. Sometimes those ideas are listend to, other times they are not. Pve servers would actually be a drastic change not only to gameplay, but also to the design philosophy. It may sound harsh, but ultimately people who don't want to have the possibility to encounter hostile players should not have picked up a game thay so clearly advertised the pvp element.
@shellybarley699 said in ¡¡¡The pirate code is a fallacy!!!:
if i was not adapted to the game i simply would not play it.
If you were adapted to the game, you would understand the balance between PVE and PVP and the raison d'être of that ecosystem.
I'm just saying that creating a PvE mode would not change the essence of the game after all I'm not asking you to change the theme or delete the PvP mode, just make an additional PvE mode for the other 50% of the community
How you do not see how much this would change the essence of the game is truly beyond me. I highly doubt that the community is split 50/50 on this. It's not even a debate pitting PVP and PVE players, it's about those who do both and those who won't, despite that concept being the very core of the game. Even the devs are very clear about this, the game has been designed and thought this way.
I'm also giving feedback as the devs ask, I'm sure they would be very grateful for my honesty and my innovative idea to improve the quality of the game and keep their players happy.
Far from innovative, a vocal minority has been whining for this mode/option/server/cop out for quite a while now. I am sure the devs must appreciate feedback to the extent where people don't ask them to reinvent their game, you can read the Design Director Mike Chapman's tweet in reaction to this very suggestion.
Those who comment against this great idea should not be selfish and just want a PvP mode because those of us who want a PvE mode, sometimes we play with you because of obligation because there is no PvE server and in that there is no fun. You for to be open minded as i am being dispite my wish for a PvE mode for if I wasnt open minded i’d stop platino the game.
Again, you calling people selfish for wanting Rare to keep their vision and promises about their game is quite ironic. If you find no fun in PVP, it's up to you to avoid it, you have the means and tools to do so. It's there, it's meant to be there and it was always advertised to be there.
To conclude it is unecessary to try and Shame my feedback for if the devs wouldnt consider it in the fiesta place it should have been mentioned right when you’re about to purchase the game:).
You are welcome to leave as much feedback as you like, don't you try to shame people for not agreeing with it and for having a differing opinion though.
@shellybarley699 Yes, your innovative idea that was brought up on day 1 and repeated countless times thereafter. And it would very much affect the rest of us as I've just told you, but you disregard any disagreement while telling the rest of us to be open minded.
@shellybarley699 In this case, we don't have to be objective because regardless of what we think, the devs have made their decision for their product. Not happy with it? Vote with your wallet.
@bloodybil
i can say the same,
Mabey not you, but theres a huhe amount of people trying to sink our advice just because of a "this-will-destroy-the-game" toxic idea.Lme ask ypu something, gta5,
It has a public server wich you can rather to kill people or avoid them, in the same way, you got a private session, you can level up, buu things, and theres literaly NOBODY complaining about it,
There no one saying that the "core of the game will brake", R* desided to put a private lobby for does who dont want to be killed for some randome guy who is bored.In conclusion, this debate is ridiculous, al the statments behind the essence of SOT are the same from GTA5.
Devs can and SHOULD put a espesific lobby for does like me who dont want to be botter by randoms.
Not putting a session like this will and will always be considered a selfish threat against us, because theres literally no reason behind it to not put ir in the game.Gta5 dint sink because of it, SOT, being better than gta5 wont sink either.
Case closed
@kuyofaaz73
The thing is, gta is entirely about murdering people. This game isn't, but normal servers would be if they added this. This is because lots of players would prefer to grind, but still play the game normally right now. They wouldn't if possible. This would be a lot more of a change than people leaving.@kuyofaaz73 said in ¡¡¡The pirate code is a fallacy!!!:
@bloodybil
i can say the same,
Mabey not you, but theres a huhe amount of people trying to sink our advice just because of a "this-will-destroy-the-game" toxic idea.Lme ask ypu something, gta5,
It has a public server wich you can rather to kill people or avoid them, in the same way, you got a private session, you can level up, buu things, and theres literaly NOBODY complaining about it,
There no one saying that the "core of the game will brake", R* desided to put a private lobby for does who dont want to be killed for some randome guy who is bored.In conclusion, this debate is ridiculous, al the statments behind the essence of SOT are the same from GTA5.
Devs can and SHOULD put a espesific lobby for does like me who dont want to be botter by randoms.
Not putting a session like this will and will always be considered a selfish threat against us, because theres literally no reason behind it to not put ir in the game.Gta5 dint sink because of it, SOT, being better than gta5 wont sink either.
Case closed
In GTA5 you can't do the same content in private that you do in public.
How about a private SoT lobby where you get no rep and no gold or commendations, since there is no challenge?
I agree, it's a marvellous idea, and something Joe Neate implied when saying private servers would not allow gold farming.
Excellent idea! Case closed indeed.
@bloodybil Nah, it's easy to get "your own"" server in GTA where you can grind with your buddies. That's why it's such a [mod edit] if you don't do that.
@kuyofaaz73
I dont think its fair to compare SoT to GTA. I am more than certain GTA has way more money than Rare to make and maintain a game. Its far easier for them to make multiple server types because they have a much bigger player base and more cash to run said servers.
This game was lauched barebones with little content. It was a beautiful world with little to do.
Development time for fixes and even the smallest content takes ages compared to bigger companys.
Since the start most ppl opposed to pve servers have been worried that making those servers would take development time away from the main game. We already wait so long for the smallest content drip and cosmetics.
And not to mention the game has always preached community and social interactions. A PVE server splits us into 2 groups.
And i know the arena already does this but i see why it was necessary since the game takes long sessions to accomplish anything useful. They needed a way for the players with little time to catch a quick game.
Like i said before i could see the benefits in the long run of adding a pve server and gathering those types of players. But i dont feel its needed. And the fear that it will effect the main game is understandable to@rk1-turbulence said in ¡¡¡The pirate code is a fallacy!!!:
@bloodybil Nah, it's easy to get "your own"" server in GTA where you can grind with your buddies. That's why it's such a [mod edit] if you don't do that.
Ah my bad then, I always heard some missions couldn't be done in private. Still not a good idea though, people would never do any risky missions outside of private, why take a chance? Good luck finding someone doing an Athena to get the legendary thief commendation, or any mercenary missions.
GTA is GTA and SoT is SoT, lets stop trying to make games the same. You can already have friendly servers if 6 ships ally eachother. Want a peaceful server to grind? Work for it, you have the tools to make it happen already.
@kuyofaaz73
"I do not think things are that simple"
Things are usually far simpler than you assume them to be.
You wouldn't make world of warcraft an FPS game, because it's not supposed to be an FPS game... Well you also wouldn't make Sea of Thieves into a single player game, because it's not supposed to be a single player game.
It's quite simple, really... The only question is, can you accept this or not? Those you said uninstalled the game because of this, clearly couldn't accept the sheer fact that SoT is a full sandbox multiplayer experience where the threat of PvP is the core of the game... If they didn't bother to figure out what the game was, it's sadly their fault that they didn't do any research.
I don't buy games i don't know anything about, i thoroughly research what kind of game it is, AND watch some footage before i decide whether or not it's a game i want to play. I don't just buy the game without knowing anything about it, thinking it's going to be the game i am fantasizing about, that's completely delusional.
Your problem has nothing to do with the game, nor your experience with the game, but has everything to do with what you THOUGHT the game would be.
Manage your expectations.
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