Add things for legends to do

  • Suggestion in the title.

    PS. I don't mean weekly events. I mean somthing new just for legends.

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  • @bloodfrenzy187
    Why just for legends?
    Rare doesn't want to put barriers up that enable only certain players to be able to complete tasks.
    They said all along that there would be no segregation due to content etc, so what you are asking for is unlikely to happen.

  • @logansdadtoo But I kind of understand where @BLOODFRENZY187 is coming from.
    So I'm in the last steps of becoming legend (ohhh, the OoS grind is such a drag).
    After that our crew will likely push Athena to 10.
    And then what?
    We can sail around making cash to buy all the things (although I think we will have all cosmetics in the game because of the Athena grind).

  • @lefaux2
    But at the end of the day we ALL want & need extra things added!
    Just because you have embraced the grind & reached legend status, doesn't mean you should get more content. You have the hideout, skins & athena voyages & in the future captaincy. I would argue that's more than enough extra's!

  • @logansdadtoo
    No. Not when Rare clearly stated “legendary is when the game really begins”.

  • @logansdadtoo said in Add things for legends to do:

    I would argue that's more than enough extra's!

    To give you a very bad comparison, although I still think it is somewhat viable:
    To me your argument is like "let's give level 30s in WoW access to raids so they don't need to reach max level first".

    I do understand that you want more content, because the leveling is repetitive - I won't argue against that, it's just true.
    But leveling in itself is still a goal to work for.
    When I hit legend (I think this weekend) I can grind out athena but after that there's literally nothing left to do.

    It's not "there's nothing fun to do", it's "there's nothing to do".

  • @logansdadtoo said in Add things for legends to do:

    @lefaux2
    But at the end of the day we ALL want & need extra things added!
    Just because you have embraced the grind & reached legend status, doesn't mean you should get more content. You have the hideout, skins & athena voyages & in the future captaincy. I would argue that's more than enough extra's!

    The legendary hideout gets boring fast. It's a tavern and a shipwright shop and there's literally nothing to do inside the hideout.

    The skins? laughable. It takes (around) 97 Athena's voyages to grind them and some legends don't like the outfit.

    Athena's voyages? those are the exact same voyages with the difficulty bumped that legends have grinded to reach the end game content where "the game truly begins."

  • Captaincy is coming for Legends, until then you will unfortunately have to make do with the same as everyone else :p

  • @logansdadtoo said in Add things for legends to do:

    Captaincy is coming for Legends, until then you will unfortunately have to make do with the same as everyone else :p

    Key word: Coming. but we don't know when. In the meantime legends are either leaving the game or trolling other players because they have NOTHING to do.

    RARE Advertised becoming a Legend as the beginning when in reality when you reach there. there's nothing to do except grind the same voyages again.

    IMO EVERY legend has the right to ask for end game content like they were lead to believe they were going to get and non legends should not be saying. "what about us?"

  • I agree, I’m at 6 Athena Rep, almost 7; and after reaching 10 I’ll only be playing the game to either stock up on Gold or just buy every item in the game. With no real goal to work for anymore. There needs to be a new Faction for us to work towards, I don’t care if it’s literally Athena Voyages, but extra chapters added to make it a little different. Just give us SOMETHING!

  • @logansdadtoo said in Add things for legends to do:

    Captaincy is coming for Legends, until then you will unfortunately have to make do with the same as everyone else :p

    I’ve heard this “it’s coming” for a long time now. Maybe another year?

  • Legends don't have only other stuff to do, but they miss also the basic thing to have.

    For instance we don't have weapon and item skins (legendendary and ghostly), some extra cosmetic maybe? Because the purple outfit and the athena's outfit aren't that awesomeness.

    I'm doing Athena's very slowly and with calm because after this there is nothing, I've also diffult to stick my crew togethere, because someone get bored and can't blame for that.

    Ship captancy for sure will require another year, so is pointless to talk about "you will have (one day) ship captancy"

  • Legend voyages would also be very diffecult and bring unique experience to the game. That's not at all what Athena voyages are. Legend is just one big pile of nothing at this point, and I don't see them changing that anytime soon.

    They are only talking about content for everyone atm, didn't mention legend content (in terms of quests, not cosmetics) one bit.

  • @zaannox said in Add things for legends to do:

    There needs to be a new Faction for us to work towards, I don’t care if it’s literally Athena Voyages, but extra chapters added to make it a little different. Just give us SOMETHING!

    How about the new bilge rat faction that will have weekly updates?

  • I agree with both sides here.

    Rare promised more content exclusively for Legends but put that on the backburner for content everyone can enjoy.

    I agree that at the moment giving everyone (legends and non legends alike) content is by far the better option. However barely being rewarded for the long grind you've been trough is disheartening.
    Let's hope Rare doesnt forget it's promise for legends content and when they add it there will be more people to enjoy it.

    I'm generally happy everyone is getting content but cant shake the feeling becoming legend is just something you do as opposed to something you strive for.

  • @bloodfrenzy187 Content for the 0.16 % of players that have become legend - that's 6400 players out of 4000000 - does not make sense in any way.

  • https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/59737/proposal-governor-fort

    @logansdadtoo, @bloodfrenzy187 Maybe this, it's for all players but only the fiercest will make it

    @ath3na-cr33d, there's also an idea for a new costume

  • @bloodfrenzy187 I get what you mean, Im not a Legend (not even close) but I have no real reason to grind out rep to get there. There should be something added just for Legends, I agree. But to be honest I cant think of anything...:(

  • @wipe-nd-clean
    You mean that thing that everyone can do and it takes like 2 hours to do each “adventure”? That’s not for Legends, that’s more for the casuals than us.

  • Add things for everyone lol

  • @x1-two
    You’re right, don’t give your most dedicated players anything, I’m sure they’ll keep playing your game after being ignored.

  • There needs to be additional content for Legends. I don't think anyone is arguing for an entire DLC that's been worked on for 5 months to totally 100% be JUST Legends. I think what people are asking for is that they get a small piece of the DLC reserved just for them. If they made say 5% - 10% of each DLC dedicated to just Legend content and gave 90% to the entire community they'd make everyone happy.

    Becoming a Legend isn't based on skill it's based on time. Eventually everyone with enough time, whether it takes someone 5 weeks or 5 years, can make it to Pirate Legend. If Rare starts fleshing out legendary content now and it takes you two more years to get to Legend you'll have TONS of NEW content along with all the future content to enjoy once you hit legendary status.

    Investing in "end game" content is one of the best things a developer can do. It gives a reason for players to stick around and reach that end game. Again no one is suggesting 100% of the DLC becomes dedicated to just Pirate Legends but there needs to be something.

  • @je0rgie-p0rgie Couldn't agree more!

  • @logansdadtoo actually being pirate legend myself its very lacking once we get there. I agree it does need more, even if it like a new type of quest because we basically just doing the Merchant, OOS, And gold hoarders all over again, it kind of makes the grind feel pointless. if it was a different type of quest when we reach PL, then it would feel a little better, but right now its just the grind then same grind all over again.

    We was told that once we reached PL this was when the game got better, in my honest opionion its a big let down, there is not End game as of yet, once we get our ghost set that's it.

    Yes we get a hide out and 1 skin for our ship but tbh we cant really get away using it, as most time we use it guys go oh there on Athena's quest lets sink them. we get half a new tune that's lock to just opening a door, so in my eyes yes more is needed to keep us all hooked

  • @zaannox said in Add things for legends to do:

    @wipe-nd-clean
    You mean that thing that everyone can do and it takes like 2 hours to do each “adventure”? That’s not for Legends, that’s more for the casuals than us.

    Would you be happy with more cosmetics i.e the bonecrusher legend hat and jacket? Or is it quests? Obviously the only quests for everyone centre around the same type of thing. It will happen I'm sure but its not like the guys can pull out good new DLC everyday - I say every day because you know if new Legend only quests came out you would finish them in a day! lol

  • @wipe-nd-clean I’m asking for something that we can spend our time on. It doesn’t even have to be fully fleshed out! Hell, the Athena’s Fortune isn’t even fully fleshed out, there is no equipment or weapons to buy nor is there a ship! We either do it because we like the clothing or because we have nothing else better to do.

    We just want something to do so that we don’t feel like we’re stuck at a brick wall simply because we played the game more than they thought we would.

  • At this point I'd be happy with a damn shirt, but seriously, someone earlier said that if 10% of new content were aimed at legends and 90% were aimed at everyone else that would suffice, and he's right, cos in the fullness of time 100% would be aimed at everyone since they would eventually become legends, current legends would just gain a head start. Helping lower level players is great, something I'm doing right now, but eventually we'll all be legends, then what? Not very legendary if everyone is there...

  • @reedski Agreed, I feel like I’m being punished for playing the game while having everyone else freely catch up to me because Rare has put a Giant Gandalf in front of me and he’s screaming “You shall not pass!”

    Kind of feels unfair since the content we have and are getting isn’t even fleshed out. We don’t even have equipment and weapons to match either of our Legend Outfits which is pretty annoying.

    It’s been a few months, they can’t use the “Oh you guys got there faster than we thought” excuse anymore.

  • PL and Athena 10 here...

    And like you say i have nothing to do in the game,

    But to be honest (the game is what u make it to) normaly me and the crew go for pvp and steal loot, we explore ilands to find message in bottles because we dont buy quests anymore.

    If i dont run with them

    Then i help new players (thursday) i helped a new player to get the easy thrones so he culd get new cloth

    I explane the game and Why i enjoy it even If i have nothing to do, but in this way i meet new cool people and can take part of there journey,

    This game is wonderfull when u just role with the Sea and explore

  • I would be happy enough if we had more stuff to buy. We just have one set of skins for the ship... and its an ugly one. And why we have an unicorn as symbol? o.O

    I got my dress (lvl 6) on Athena so now there`s nothing else I would like to buy for now. It would be exciting to go after something cute in the future.

  • @tat-lilac Funny you say that because I made a post about that lol, Legends need some love!

  • @logansdadtoo Not sure if anyone already said this but for every content update where new stuff is added for all players, include a few extra things that are unique to PL.

    Everybody wins!

  • Doesn’t mind helping lower levels tbh.
    It would also help toward unfinished commendations. @ant-heuser-kush

  • @logansdadtoo I have a great idea to help appease those who work their butts off to make Legend status. Improve the hideout! Basically turn the hideout into a "mini game" extravaganza. While the bars also need "mini games" the hideout has the area size to expand those games. While the regular bar could have maybe cards, dice, chess, etc.. The legendary Hideout could have Knife throwing, Cliff Diving, maybe even a spin wheel type moving target shoot out along with maybe Chess (for those intellectual types😁. Different hideouts could have different games/ competitions like instead of games one hideout might have an obstacle course where your best times are recorded. Or another might have a rope swing instead of cliff diving or log rolling etc...... The world should remain equal but these things in the hideout could keep pirates in the grind just to get there! It'd be sort of like combining SOT with a pirate version of Summer Olympics", "Caveman Ughlympics", and "California games"! Who didn't love those classics?!!!

  • @ath3na-cr33d said in Add things for legends to do:

    @logansdadtoo said in Add things for legends to do:

    Captaincy is coming for Legends, until then you will unfortunately have to make do with the same as everyone else :p

    Key word: Coming. but we don't know when. In the meantime legends are either leaving the game or trolling other players because they have NOTHING to do.

    RARE Advertised becoming a Legend as the beginning when in reality when you reach there. there's nothing to do except grind the same voyages again.

    IMO EVERY legend has the right to ask for end game content like they were lead to believe they were going to get and non legends should not be saying. "what about us?"

    I wholly support this idea. I haven't reached Legend yet because I literally STOPPED at 45+ OoS doing the voyages... I played a couple of Athena's and saw that it was just a chain of the hate I have for fighting piles of skeletons and I literally just STOPPED...

    Why? I'd stop reading from here... I go on a rant from hades, sorry habit

    Because I will get there eventually and frankly, I agree, if your not doing Athena's voyages there is NOTHING left to do. Considering my absolute hatred of Athena's missions.. I mean seriously what genius thought... lets add MORE skeletons and increase the damage required to kill them as they spawn non-stop and call it "content". Whomever they are need be fired.

    Especially since it took Rare a couple of months to 'tighten the rng window' to cut out c**p loot such as castaways and hoarders, which only served (and still isn't good enough a change) to insult players completing tasks with lousy rewards despite incredible efforts.


    I hate segregation of the player base between those who've leveled and those who haven't... at least if it's too wide a gap that is. But it isn't unreasonable to provide actual variety of tasks for everyone, while also being aware that those who have literally done everything still want things to do other than to create their own game.

    Which is what currently sucks about the game. For me.. If I am not doing OoS I am not gaining anything beyond value that I personally ascribe to my experiences. Arguably gold... which based on current items in game.. I will NEVER NEED AGAIN.

    And I still have a couple of level of OoS to progress! I can only sympathize with those who've capped out or are simply not interested in the Athena's rep (as I would be one who literally has no interest in capping Athena's the rewards are wholly opposite my interest or tastes), because literally the only gain at that point is what one personally applies value to. The player literally has to make their own fun, and since launch that really boils down to PvP or doing things that might be considered griefing by some.

    Sure one can always "help the little guy" here's the deal... even that is boring, and frankly often leads to becoming a less valuable team member as the interest might be merely empty hearted doing it because they have nothing else to do mindset.

    I'm not some Sea of Thieves fatalist who thinks the game is sinking, nor am I a nay-sayer. I also realize that we're in the perpetual spin of "well it's coming" which.... does insult the integrity of the game. Because it should already be here....

    So, no we can't change what's not here by simply wanting it to be here now... but if we must "suck it up buttercup" and wait... I see no harm in asking for actual content deliveries become the primary focus and for end game players who have nothing to advance to gain something worthy of their endless time and lack of gains.

    So far... we've gotten a shark and a drum as our major content update.. a few thrones I 'guess' to distract us for a couple of hours....

    this isn't content...

    We need new enemy types, mermaids seemed popular before...

    We need actual quests, even if they use the same model as the voyages (that is are just fetch quests for various garbage), that adds both lore and a PROPERLY scaling value to loot (sure, it'd speed up the legend gaining of players... but lets face it the only reason it's not easier is because Rare didn't want to admit once you hit legend the game ends and it's up to you to create the fun at that point, because they have nothing built in for you). These quests should add proper lore into the game... not just lore that you can buy from their cash grab of a store.

    They need bosses that hit you so hard your teeth pop out and have actual AI and require strategy with equally valuable rewards that are truly one of a kind... not just coins for some bilge rat that anyone can get.

    They need to make use of the empty skull forts.

    They need more than skull forts every 4-5 hours to create interest in action, sadly it's gotten to the point that many skull forts I see remain untouched for hours another clear indication that there are people who just don't care...

    PvP rewards for survival need to be implemented. Same for victories through killing.

    Reasons to actually explore these wonderfully imagined and beautifully designed locations aside from "that one time during merricks quest...." how about... that one time I was lucky but is often enough that it's not simply impossible... where you find that.... rare quest... rare loot... odd enemy... whatever. After all, when was the last time you had any reason to investigate the tunnels under Mermaids island? I'd say... never... been there once you've seen it all. how about putting a quest boss in there or something guarding a nice loot chest - if anything simply flag the chest as discover-able once per crew/player or some other garbage...

    They need factions that are actual FACTIONS and offer more than skins everyone and their other have that are also price gated.... such as faction only events or targets or challenges.... For example "Steal X amount of Skulls from enemy crews today" do that and gain whatever...

    The list goes on and on and on....

    But the sad truth is "It's all coming"....

    Well, last I checked alot of folks paid for a finished game. "Free DLC" is a nice treat as they try to slide into the notion of the game as a service... but I'm no fool, someone telling me to pay $60 today for content that will be here "perpetually tomorrow" without having the integrity to explain the game is Early Access... is actually an insult.

    For example the 4-5 million players.... that isn't really that high of a number... look at other major league titles...that's small.... which game might we use to showcase the player count? Hard to say.. I mean WoW has been MUCH higher but in 2015 they were not much different than SoT at 5.56 million PAYING customers... but it's a different game that costs $15 a month just for that game... FORTNITE has marked over 40 million at it's peak... PuB 20.... MINECRAFT has only really marked around 1 million...so maybe SoT is good

    Or maybe the numbers are reflective of a short term game pass offering that isn't as concurrent as might be said and reflects those with game pass and a casual or disconnected interest in the game and therefore doesn't mean squat. I'd wager once there is more than State of Decay 2 and Sea of thieves as new titles on Gamepass the number of 4 million will drop DRAMATICALLY... But I could be wrong.

    What I do think I am not wrong about is that SoT has one thing going for it... some basic freedom to do what you want and create your own game since it's a sandbox title.

    But even then... there is so little functionality what with uh.... cannons... yea we can fire cannons... maybe we need an event where we trim the sails... that's something else we can play with...

    Or maybe we need to hold our breath! Yea that'll do it!

    I'm not actually saying we should hate SoT.. I still play for the sake of some of my pals..

    But the OP is asking for something that we do seriously lack... in game content especially once you've 'done everything'.

    I think that the request stands, and tomorrow better get here fast or even I will simply shelve the game until september and hope there's enough reason for me to get off the new games that will be here near years end.

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