This respawn system is no fun... And that goes for both sides

@provingprism69 I have no problem with the current system. I see your point, but the problem here mainly seems to be that you're playing solo. As a solo player, you shouldn't be able to easily kill and loot a whole ship without challenge, and the alternative seems to be to increase the wait time in Davey Jones' locker, which i'm not a fan of.

I just wanted to share my opinion, and say that I think the respawn system works fine and as intended

I wasnt sold. and now I kinda agree.

Take battlefields Spawn on squad mates route.

As long as s squad member was alive, you could spawn on them. If they kill your entire team, plus something though.
The ship should be a spawn point yes, but with a hitch. A something that if another crew has you all dead and takes control of it than you can no longer spawn on it. ALL MUST BE DEAD first.

But yeah, also, this could make for extra stuff. Like, you can spawn on members alive on an island, another boat, etc

@acid182 we come back from that all the time. its how well your team plays that matters. And how smart you are at dealing with the water.

This respawn system is no fun... And that goes for both sides:

I wasnt sold. and now I kinda agree.

Take battlefields Spawn on squad mates route.

As long as s squad member was alive, you could spawn on them. If they kill your entire team, plus something though.
The ship should be a spawn point yes, but with a hitch. A something that if another crew has you all dead and takes control of it than you can no longer spawn on it. ALL MUST BE DEAD first.

But yeah, also, this could make for extra stuff. Like, you can spawn on members alive on an island, another boat, etc

again this^

what about, after they are all dead, you can stop them from respawning for a minute. you cant stop them forever, but if you kill them all, you can stop them from respawning on the boat. For a minute. by performing some action on the boat.

Or maybe it can work while they are all alive.. you get on the boat and do it, while they are off hunting and steal the boat.

They can still spawn on eachother though

I think the reason i'll keep disagreeing with these different solutions, is that you're all ignoring something obvious; You're attacking another ship. You're not defending your own. Why should the odds be equally fair? You're trying to steal something others worked for, and while i'm all for that concept, I think the challenge has to be on you and you alone. Are you a solo-player? In that case you should have a challenge stealing others loot. Are you a galleon of 4? You won't have this issue to begin with. I just really don't see why giving defending players the spawn advantage is a problem, as you'll only be faced with a disadvantage if you not only attack another ship, but also plan to haul their loot away. In my opinion, the respawn system is fine, and works as intended :)

@lm-robin-hood It really sounds like your problem here is that you occasionally have to work to fend people off, which I don't see a problem with. If you're not feeling victorious when you get to sink the same people again, that's all on you. Personally i'd enjoy having the same people try again and again, that's what made GTA online a favourite of mine. But I guess if all you want is the loot from PvP and not the hassle, that's on you mate. Can't have your cake and eat it at the same time ;)

@theunknownd This would probably be the worst solution I can think of. I've sometimes seen ships far away coming for the island i'm parked at, and sometimes I find it easier to simply hide my treasure in bushes etc. if I know I can't escape. This allows me to reclaim them when I respawn in a new ship. I couldn't do this on a new server. But furthermore; Why can't you do this already on your own? Your ship's been sunk, just change the server manually. Easy peasy. Unless this solution is meant to help those who just sunk your ship avoid retaliation, in which case i'm against it for a whole bunch of other reasons :P

Or why not have the loosing party switch to an another server. The winning side gets to continue their voyage, and the loosing side can't come back again and again to harass. This would also reward that party that wins a fight at the skeleton fort.

As a bonus no pirate crew could harass another on and on and on... it could be the solution to a lot of the complaints on the forum.

Not a perfect solution, but perhaps something to discuss?

@ghostfire1981 I think you're misrepresenting the concept of harrassment. PvP, an essential part of this game, is not harrassment. And the only way you'll end up in a PvP fight to begin with, is by engaging yourself. I've NEVER been unable to outrun a fight if I'm not parked at some island looking for the 4th damn riddle clue which I swear is a landmark that doesn't exist :P

But furthermore, how easy would forts become if this was implemented? I'd just sit far away and watch the galleons duke it out, and when all but 1 is despawned i'd make a move. The point of forts is excactly to create a PvP heavy environment, which you don't just have to win once, but conquor long enough to secure treasure superior to the regular farming means.

I think what I'm trying to get at, is that PvP is MEANT to be bothersome, and if you actively seek it, you'll have to work for it. If you don't actively seek it, run and avoid it. You're looking to kill others for their loot, and then simply be freed from their revenge, which is just plain lazy. Either don't seek PvP, or take it as it is :)

@rubendorff
I was actually referring to the sociopaths that come back and sink or try to sink you five or more times in a row... you know the ones that do not understand when enough is enough.

The point is not to say that PvP is bad, i actually like it. But with a server migration after one looses, we can eliminate the problem of someone getting sunk over and over by the same crew. AND as a whole this would distribute the fighting more evenly among more players. Everyone would be happy, the bloodthirsty crews get their kills, and the more peaceful players get sunk one time and can go on their merry business on perhaps a calmer server... or continue their voyage if they sink the attackers.

@lm-robin-hood The problem here being that people can retaliate? I might need you to elaborate the "problem" you're acknowledging, cause I sure don't see it. You kill people, and 5 minutes later they return. What's the problem of that? In CS:GO you won't have to wait 5 minutes for the people you just killed to return, soooo.... :P Is the problem that the PvP is not on your terms? I can easily acknowledge a problem if I see it, and I just don't here.

@ghostfire1981 But that "sociopath" is so rare, that trying to fix him would simply ruin it for so many others. Heck, i've had PLENTY of those guys in GTA. I s**t you not, I once spent a few hours ganking a kid 40+ times without him ever getting a kill, and I wasn't even griefing. He literally just kept trying to get jets etc. to kill me, and I stopped him every time. This issue is not new to PvP games, and it's something you have to live with i'm afraid. But once again, I don't see how this does little more than hassle you? So you gotta sink the same guy again, takes a minute or so? Why is there a problem on your behalf? And if the problem is on their behalf, as you say, they COULD be sunk again and again... Well, why don't they just change server themselves? That option is already available :)

@lm-robin-hood Sure, it's not CoD, and they won't appear right away, they'll be several minutes, 10 at least. Plenty of time for you to sail away to be fair. And sure, it's a PvP adventure game, which involves PvP. And frankly, I just haven't had any problems with PvP so far. I'd say the reason "you" see so many people constantly coming back for ya, is that you seek the PvP. If you sought the adventure, which I tend to do, PvP is rarely a thing.

I'm just stuck with 2 possible situations here; Either you're grossly overstating the issue with people coming back for you, and these people are a rare occurance, OR! maybe you're the guy constantly hunting other players, in which case complaining that they return is frankly pathetic? :P I'll leave it up to you mate, I just can't see the problem, or a solution that wouldn't make a larger population of players mad.

@rubendorff
Because it takes up a lot of my time... it serves no purpose... for them or me. :)
Typical situation: Im just about to dig up a chest or killing a skeleton boss, and you see a ship coming. You run to your ship, prepare it, kill the attacker, sail back into position, drop anchor... and go back to your objective. When this happens several time by the same attacker(s)... its not fun anymore... its just wasting MY time.

And yeah lots of other games have the same problem... i know it all to well.

Just wanted to add mu couple of cents to suggest an idea for a solution to the problem. We can't get rid of the "less desirable" players, but perhaps we could even out the problems somehow.

@ghostfire1981 While I know of such situations, they are SO rare that a fix is simply not warranted. I've been primarily solo-adventuring so far, and I rarely have ships chase me, specially if I play cautiously. But to cut to the chase; You think it's a waste of time? Fine. This game probably isn't for you then. And the only solution to people chasing you when you're adventuring, would be to simply abolish PvP, which is not going to happen. I'll still claim that you're blowing the scale of that problem out of proportion. But if that is truly what grinds your gears, i'd suggest a PvE game. And that's my 2 cents. While we may never agree, I do appriciate the debate, and that's the point of these forums :)

@rubendorff
Agreed! :)

The point of my fist post was just to add something to the discussion, and indeed to start some debate as that is how new solutions are made.

@lm-robin-hood In that case, i'd say the denial of personal responsibility and the idea that every player has a "right" to have the game suit their specific needs is a reflection of you :)

@lm-robin-hood But let me make my position clear, as I think you're trying to misrepresent me somewhat; I am NOT saying there's not solutions. I'm saying I don't see a PROBLEM. I am in no way blaming individuals, I am challenging their points of view. That's how debate works, and your attempts at undermining my character won't work. The fact that my responses are somewhat along the same path, shows that I have principles and consistency, and I won't be shamed by that. Once again, I am merely expressing my points of view, and I still don't believe there's a problem here. So this plethora of solutions won't be useful to the non-existing problem as I believe it stands :)