So, my inquiry is why Ashen Lords can hit solo ships from way outside of the island, and why they will target your ship when dead. I had this happen, and it was quite frustrating. I would just like to see it changed in some form.
Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops
@wolfmanbush lol I know. I died due to running out of food and respawned at an outpost. My ship was past the furthest rocks of the island.
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
@wolfmanbush lol I know. I died due to running out of food and respawned at an outpost. My ship was past the furthest rocks of the island.
Shouldn't be less than 20 seconds to have your ship completely sink.
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
@wolfmanbush lol I know. I died due to running out of food and respawned at an outpost. My ship was past the furthest rocks of the island.
you might have had a tucker at one point if the lord went out of their way to target your ship at a distance
@wolfmanbush, no ships near me, and no loot were taken when I got back. Plus I saw the "time spent on fire" milestone pop up when I respawned. I also put my ship right near the same spot while I collected loot and found that the boss had thrown a fireball from the island and hit my ship, creating 4 tier 3 holes. It's just unfair solo tbh.
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
@wolfmanbush, no ships near me, and no loot were taken when I got back. Plus I saw the "time spent on fire" milestone pop up when I respawned. I also put my ship right near the same spot while I collected loot and found that the boss had thrown a fireball from the island and hit my ship, creating 4 tier 3 holes. It's just unfair solo tbh.
I dunno. I've solo'd a lot of ashen winds and they went alright after figuring out the patterns.
didn't happen to be streaming or recording? any clips of it?
@wolfmanbush recordings wouldn't show anything except the ferry and a blackscreen... that's why it's unfair. Nothing I could do except wait on a respawn timer.
@pithyrumble let me run it down for you.
A. PvE buff, not a PvP buff
B. If you sink to solo sloops post buff, good
C. if you wanna talk about the buff, go somewhere else.
D. Would you like to get sank for dying to a WE?
Thanks for stopping by, but your comment wasn't relevant nor added information or meaningful discussion to the topic.@crowedhunter said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
@pithyrumble I don't think the issue is with the sloop or crew size so much as the behavior of it targeting the ship before the player is on the ship/able to move.
Wouldn't be a problem duo...
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
@pithyrumble let me run it down for you.
A. PvE buff, not a PvP buff
B. If you sink to solo sloops post buff, good
C. if you wanna talk about the buff, go somewhere else.
D. Would you like to get sank for dying to a WE?
Thanks for stopping by, but your comment wasn't relevant nor added information or meaningful discussion to the topic.D is what I'm addressing. You're taking on an event designed for at least 2 players. I recently (last 2 months or so?) got taken down by a Kraken that got a good strike/vacuum combo. Another crew member could have saved my ship. Easily. You know ashen lords target your ship, hence you parked far away (or, so you thought) I've found that as a solo, they DO move towards your ship even if you're trying to lure them away.
I think that's awesome
There absolutely should be more things that are designed to frustrate solo players.
Since someone is trying to take something away because they don't have the necessary skill set my comments were very relevant. Just because they're contrary to yours doesn't mean they're not.
Get better and stop asking for things to be made even easier. You're solo sloop. The biggest bad aft on the seas. Live up to it.
why Ashen Lords can hit solo ships from way outside of the island, and why they will target your ship when dead.
Define “way outside of the island” and did you agro them? They tend to stay locked on the player
Even after dying they will continue to hit your body until you spawn to the ferry, since you could be revived :pAnd as your respawning they can hit where your gonna be as well. Just don’t park your ship anywhere near the island.
@fysics3037 you said you died before and respawned on your boat. maybe it targeted your boat as you were going back to the island?
@crowedhunter said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
@pithyrumble Maybe I'm just bad, but my duo got hit by this just the other day. We died simultaneously and the ship was 3 seconds from sinking when we finally got back bc we were blackscreened. It took a while to recover too because we needed someone constantly paling and there was not a window for a solo to make the repairs without the water getting out of hand and the decoy had to stay alive and help get the repairs head started.
Felt a little oppressive just imo. I really don't see a reason why it should be so unforgiving.
In general it should be difficult to require strategy and to take time to justify the rewards and to allow time for random encounters with other ships
For instance I solo fleets every day and I typically don't sink but I could easily sink in seconds and have plenty of times before. It comes down to gaining the experience to become efficient and consistent. As a solo any world event should be quite risky as there are plenty of other ways to make a lot of gold now for a solo with a lot less risk.
@pithyrumble So you want them to intentionally make the game worse so you can prove your "grit" Sorry but I am not a new player nor is there much better to get. Its unlucky yes, but it is something I personally think they should address.
@captain-coel I doubt it, cus I got blacked screened, and typically it only does that after your ship sinks as its placing your ship back wherever you are.
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
So, my inquiry is why Ashen Lords can hit solo ships from way outside of the island, and why they will target your ship when dead. I had this happen, and it was quite frustrating. I would just like to see it changed in some form.
I AM NOT LOOKING FOR SUPPORT, I have seen too many things telling me what I should have done that I already had done.
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
So, my inquiry is why Ashen Lords can hit solo ships from way outside of the island, and why they will target your ship when dead. I had this happen, and it was quite frustrating. I would just like to see it changed in some form.
I AM NOT LOOKING FOR SUPPORT, I have seen too many things telling me what I should have done that I already had done.
but you're making a a nerf suggestion based on 1 encounter
it's so random that some go easy and some are a pain and a lot are pirate error
ashen lords are one of the most common solo higher risk events and that's because they are quite manageable as a solo, tridents put them in the easy and quick category.
If you're taking ship damage you are too close that's really what it comes down to.
All of the ashen wind locations have places to park that are far enough away to not take damage
It doesn't need addressing. You lost. It happens to Solos. If a galleon or brig gets wiped the ship also gets directly targeted. Being a solo slooper getting wiped is more likely to happen and more likely to be noticed by the AL than 4 players that can easily have 1 take care of the damage and move if need be.
You only lost because you were solo and that's not going to make the game worse. If you can't deal with an Ashen Lord solo you have no chance against a Kb/M gally full of sweats.
Which is as it should be.
Also upgrade. Black screens happen on X1 and low performance PC. My experience has improved 100% switching to a Series S.
OP made mistake of parking too close. There isn't much more to it.
I've found that near the maximum EOR distance is where the Ashen Lord can start hitting your ship. I've done Ashen events and not once left the ship, that's how easy it is. Or for example, leave ship once; park well off of cannon cove (for ex), cannon over to island and bring ashen lord to dock. Then blackscreen/merm back to ship and just EOR it from a distance. The boss can't hit you but you can hit it.
Can be done at any island the WE is on. Or, park in the middle of the ocean if you must, and cannon yourself over to island. keep your ship within sight and a mermaid close and there is no issue.
Look, peeps.
What a lot of the argument happening here really comes down to is simple:
You are not meant to solo sloop. You are not meant to play alone. To be by yourself is to willingly hinder yourself by playing a way you are not supposed to. A way Rare doesn't want you to.Rare has implemented a few token mediocre solo slooping buffs, mainly for pvp, in the name of "please shut up, stop complaining about this so we can focus on things we actually care about".
Let's be real; If Rare actually wanted soloing to be a genuine option, there would be 4 ships. Sloops would be further designed for duos, there would be a whole seperate ship for solos, and seeing a solo sloop would become as nutty as seeing a solo galleon. Or maybe sloops would be designs better for solos, and duos would get the new ship; same difference. And I do wish they would do this, by the way.
Some games, be they co op or pvp, simply are not meant to be played alone, and will not truly be designed to allow for it. SoT is one of those games.
It's a team based game.Playing this solo is up there with playing mmorpgs or team vs team session games solo.
You're never meant to be alone in WoW, or Guild Wars, or whatever.
You can try anyway, and some people will, but you're not actually supposed to.
You're never meant to do a match where you're alone, 1vall-ing in Overwatch, but if the matchmaker is failing to replace your teammates who left you could try and some people would.
You're never meant to do anything in SoT by yourself. You're never intended to be the only person on your crew.
You can try anyway, and some people will, but you're not actually supposed to.This message brought to you by someone who spends 99% of all playtime solo slooping.
@the-old-soul800 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
. A way Rare doesn't want you to.Rare has never said this. Coming from a 99% solo slooper also. ;)
@the-old-soul800 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
Look, peeps.
What a lot of the argument happening here really comes down to is simple:
You are not meant to solo sloop. You are not meant to play alone. To be by yourself is to willingly hinder yourself by playing a way you are not supposed to. A way Rare doesn't want you to.Rare has implemented a few token mediocre solo slooping buffs, mainly for pvp, in the name of "please shut up, stop complaining about this so we can focus on things we actually care about".
Let's be real; If Rare actually wanted soloing to be a genuine option, there would be 4 ships. Sloops would be further designed for duos, there would be a whole seperate ship for solos, and seeing a solo sloop would become as nutty as seeing a solo galleon. Or maybe sloops would be designs better for solos, and duos would get the new ship; same difference. And I do wish they would do this, by the way.
Some games, be they co op or pvp, simply are not meant to be played alone, and will not truly be designed to allow for it. SoT is one of those games.
It's a team based game.Playing this solo is up there with playing mmorpgs or team vs team session games solo.
You're never meant to be alone in WoW, or Guild Wars, or whatever.
You can try anyway, and some people will, but you're not actually supposed to.
You're never meant to do a match where you're alone, 1vall-ing in Overwatch, but if the matchmaker is failing to replace your teammates who left you could try and some people would.
You're never meant to do anything in SoT by yourself. You're never intended to be the only person on your crew.
You can try anyway, and some people will, but you're not actually supposed to.This message brought to you by someone who spends 99% of all playtime solo slooping.
The devs have an interest in creating interaction and encouraging crew play but people have always shown that there is a strong desire to play this game solo and for the most part the devs have not only made that possible but also have at pretty much every turn implemented a way for solos to do most things in the game as a solo.
Would they prefer bigger crews and more interactions? sure, that's a major part of an experience like this but I think they have been there for solos as solos have shown how important and popular that play style also is to the game.
All things considered this game is quite solo friendly even though it's more time consuming and more challenging.
I say that someone that has spent most of my time solo and started as someone that was very very very low skill in the beginning.
to all the people saying I did not park far away enough, got tucked on, or had any other issue... I did I have 400 hours of experience and you couldn't even know in the first place, I was not tucked on, and no it is not an SSD issue... Please stop telling me what I did wrong that's not the point. This isn't supposed to be some great debate its literally just for Rare to hopefully make a change that makes it fairer. All of my points are stated prior to any of you commenting as well. Please do not go on and on about how I wasn't far enough, I know all the little mechanics and things.
@captain-coel @burnbacon @Unleet1 @KommodoreYenser @the-old-soul800 @MintHarp184509 @mr-whaletoes
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
to all the people saying I did not park far away enough, got tucked on, or had any other issue... I did I have 400 hours of experience and you couldn't even know in the first place, I was not tucked on, and no it is not an SSD issue... Please stop telling me what I did wrong that's not the point. This isn't supposed to be some great debate its literally just for Rare to hopefully make a change that makes it fairer. All of my points are stated prior to any of you commenting as well. Please do not go on and on about how I wasn't far enough, I know all the little mechanics and things.
@captain-coel @burnbacon @Unleet1 @KommodoreYenser @the-old-soul800 @MintHarp184509 @mr-whaletoes
this post is simply here as a suggestion.
@fysics3037 said in Ashen Lords on Solo Sloops:
to all the people saying I did not park far away enough, got tucked on, or had any other issue... I did I have 400 hours of experience and you couldn't even know in the first place, I was not tucked on, and no it is not an SSD issue... Please stop telling me what I did wrong that's not the point. This isn't supposed to be some great debate its literally just for Rare to hopefully make a change that makes it fairer. All of my points are stated prior to any of you commenting as well. Please do not go on and on about how I wasn't far enough, I know all the little mechanics and things.
@captain-coel @burnbacon @Unleet1 @KommodoreYenser @the-old-soul800 @MintHarp184509 @mr-whaletoes
Not sure why you are replying to me about the subject of where you parked, what your hardware is, or what "might of happened" when I never touched on those and literally only gave you the solution to make sure it never happens again. If you want a boss nerf that can already be beaten solo in 60 seconds with a 3 minute stop at a siren treasury first, then I think you might need an easier game like Minecraft creative mode. 400 hours of experience or not.
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