Chart table on ships

  • NavyWarVet
    Ship Mate
    Insider

    I feel the table name on the boats should be changed to "chart table" not "map table" as it shows mostly a body of water.

    The treasure maps you get that show treasures are still correct in game because it deals with mostly land.

    "A nautical chart represents hydrographic data, providing very detailed information on water depths, shoreline, tide predictions, obstructions to navigation such as rocks and shipwrecks, and navigational aids.

    The term “map,” on the other hand, emphasizes landforms and encompasses various geographic and cartographic products. Some examples of maps might be road maps or atlases, or city plans. A map usually represents topographical information.
    "

    US Department of Commerce, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

    What's the difference between a nautical chart and a map?

    What's the difference between a nautical chart and a map?

    A nautical chart providesa very detailed and accurate representation of the coastline

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  • CallMeBackdrafT
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    So a map of the earth would also not be a map? Since the earth is mostly ocean ?

  • D3ADST1CK
    Vanguard
    Insider
    Founder

    Your definitions of chart and map only support keeping it named as a Map Table, because it doesn't have "hydrographic data, providing very detailed information on water depths, shoreline, tide predictions, obstructions to navigation such as rocks and shipwrecks, and navigational aids."

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  • Ninja Naranja
    Champion
    Insider

    This isn’t insider related.

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  • Netrovek
    Legend
    Insider

    I don't get the point of this post. Everything you said only justifies the fact that it should be called a map and not a chart. The one in-game only shows land and does not include any of the things that were listed to be on a chart.

    Also, the Insider forums are specifically for the Insider build. You could try your luck on the main forums instead, but I think you will get a very similar response.

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  • NavyWarVet
    Ship Mate
    Insider

    Yes, as I have navigated the earth twice as a quartermaster in my time in the navy and we used "charts" as most of the mass was water.

    While there are no soundings on the chart it. IMO the "map" has has more water mass then land mass which includes "obstructions to navigation such as rocks " and "shorelines", while the treasure maps have more land then water.

    if this is not the right place for this post please move as I am trying to have a constructive conversation and I am just offering my point of view

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  • NavyWarVet
    Ship Mate
    Insider

    @callmebackdraft

    Short answer is it would be a chart if used to navigate, we had a "chart table" on my boat not a "map table" as we navigated the earth in the navy.
    And trust me the Assistant Navigator and the Navigator on the boat made sure we called it a "chart".

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  • Lem0n Curry
    Vanguard
    Insider

    I would love to have the "map" have more chart features, but to be honest it looks more like a map than a chart, and thus it's a map table, otherwise it would be a map on a charttable ...

    I've heard stories about people using a roadmap while on the waters, I guess your navigator's behaviour would be far worse to those :).

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  • JoJo Gyro
    Master
    Insider

    @navywarvet I think a change like this would be a little pointless as there is no confusion with the current names of the table. Changing word like “colour” and “favourite” to “color” and “favorite” for American players would be more impactful than changing the table names, but even that is pointless and just picking minor “inconveniences” that aren’t worth the time.

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  • TheKratex7201
    Lord
    Insider

    First off, this isn't Insider related.
    Secondly, Sea of Thieves is not the first game where you have minimap/map table or any menu where you can watch the crawlable areas. I guess I don't have to tell you that most video games call this particular menu/table a "map." No matter how much water and land you find in each game. By the way, "map table" is a much simpler and more understandable term. If they changed it to a chart table, developers would immediately get a few thousand questions about why it was needed. I appreciate you being familiar with the subject, or at least looking into it, but that would be a completely unnecessary change. Also, like I said at the beginning, this has nothing to do with Insider builds.

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  • LostAtSeaKucz
    Legend
    Rare Employee

    Ahoy there. As others have mentioned, this isn't Insider-related, so to keep things a bit tidy in here, I'm moving this over to Feedback + Suggestions.

    Happy sailing,
    Charity

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  • NavyWarVet
    Ship Mate
    Insider

    @valkyr13x

    Thanks a lot! :)

  • Sshteeve
    Captain
    Insider
    Boatswain

    @navywarvet ahoy, this is actually an old topic, as it comes up from time to time and usually by sailors such as yourself.

    I think perhaps a lack of nautical knowledge/research on the devs part may have had a part to play in the decision made, but in this instance in the game does it affect us all that much?

    It's certainly an interesting point and as the son of an old Merchant Navy sailor I have had these discussions before.

  • stormforcer
    Commander
    Insider
    Founder

    Chill its a game not the navy are you going to explain it to all the kids the play what the difference is

  • Ghostpaw
    Legend

    Calling it a chart table could be confusing for people. Also, NOAA defines the two as:

    A nautical chart represents hydrographic data, providing very detailed information on water depths, shoreline, tide predictions, obstructions to navigation such as rocks and shipwrecks, and navigational aids.The term “map,” on the other hand, emphasizes landforms and encompasses various geographic and cartographic products. Some examples of maps might be road maps or atlases, or city plans. A map usually represents topographical information.

    The maps we use do not show the locations of shipwrecks, obstructions such as random rocks jutting out of the water, depths, tide predictions (I do wish the game had tides). Our maps most certainly emphasize the landforms. Only the most important islands are documented which is less than you would expect from a chart. They are also quite detailed concerning the land portion in that they show paths, foliage, buildings, docks, boulders, and so on for those islands. MUCH more detail than the water portion of the maps.

    @navywarvet said in Chart table on ships:

    @callmebackdraft

    Short answer is it would be a chart if used to navigate, we had a "chart table" on my boat not a "map table" as we navigated the earth in the navy.
    And trust me the Assistant Navigator and the Navigator on the boat made sure we called it a "chart".

    That is because they were using charts, unlike us.

  • D3ADST1CK
    Vanguard
    Insider
    Founder

    It's basically a topographical map or atlas of the known Sea of Thieves world, not a navigation chart. It doesn't even map out the various rock obstacles that are all over the sea (like a chart should) but it does should you very detailed layouts of each island (like a topographical map would).

  • UnfadingShimmy
    Lord
    Insider
    Founder

    This post is about 4 years late to the conversation. Changing it now would just be silly.

  • Pabz 2 Dope
    Marauder
    Insider

    @navywarvet Oh for goodness sake, talk about being overly picky.

  • Galactic Geek
    Seafarer
    Founder

    Well, I learned something today - didn't know that there was a specific difference between the definition of map and chart. I thought they were interchangeable. Thanks for the lesson!
    👨‍🎓

    Kind of reminds me of turtle vs. tortoise - many use it interchangeably, which is incorrect, because the latter is a land-based reptile and the former is a water-based reptile. Which in turn is like confusing an alligator with a crocodile.
    😅

    Though, I agree that in this instance, it's more appropriate to leave its name as is.
    ✅

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