PVP is the reason I won't play this game

@calcuz just need to cash out often till you get the ropes. Pvp isnt going anywhere

The very core of this game is PVPVE. This game is a PVPVE game. It is not specifically for PVP, or PVE, but a combination of the two and within those parameters anything happens.
It is designed so you can choose your own direction and decide how to play but at the same time forcing you to deal with others and their play style.
What you are wanting is another game entirely.
Why do you even play a game that isn't what you want then come onto its forum wanting the game to be completely changed for you?

Do you want us to beg you to play?

Why come to a forum created for a PVPVE game and tell us you won't play?

Fine. Just like in this wonderful game, you have options. If this game isn't for you, fine. Don't play.

There? Did you get enough attention?

Why would you play a game with open world PvP to escape PvP?

This seems like a you problem.

Maybe you should try a single player game to escape PvP and come play SoT to get your PvP fix.

@calcuz - Why do you want to change a game that, by your own admission, just isn't for you?

Why don't you go onto Call of Duty and ask them for PvE only servers?

@badassfro said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

Why don't you go onto Call of Duty and ask them for PvE only servers?

They have a campaign and zombies for black ops.
Halo has firefight.
Titanfall has Outpost missions.
Even Fortnight has a "creative" mode where you can just goof off.

Btw. Maiden Voyage is a safe zone Rare said they'd never make... soooo

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Good luck non pvp op. Don't let the gangplank hit your aft on the way out 🤷🏽‍♀️

@calcuz

You came to a shared PvE, PvP world to escape PvP? Sorry to state, but of you might want to read about the game before you bought it. Maybe this game isnt for you, there enough PvE only games out there if that is the type of game you want.

You could play to 3 hours without being contested, in that time you can do an Athenas voyage and sell it all at the end, before the other pirates show up. So, I would say the balance between the two elements seem perfectly fine.

There are more than enough people that enjoy the game. Servers have 5 other ships other than your own. Many enjoy, bought and play this game for its PvEvP world environment. Many just do their own thing and only strike when the opportunity arises and is why the balance between the two elements is so that you can sail for 3 hours without much worries and still enjoy a good battle.

The balance of the game is based on both elements being in the same world. We do not want the decision to Adventure to change into a PvE treasure gathering sailing simulator or a warzone based on a menu choice.

Ooh also, do not sail around with more treasure than you are willing to lose. It isn't yours till you handed it in. This is an open world, where it is on you how to decide how you will respond to the sails on the horizon. If you want a PvE experience, keep your eyes peeled and avoid others... the tools are in the game, maybe you should learn to be the pirate you want to be instead of claiming that the world should adjust to you instead. The slogan of the game is #BeMorePirate!

This game has a learning curve and mastery of your style will take time, effort and your ability to adapt. You are not entitled to a care free experience, these are the Seas of Thieves... you need to watch and protect your own. Stop trying to make games easier, but maybe learn to play instead.

@pithyrumble Wrong Maiden Voyage is the tutorial that everyone has been asking for, and fair points about the other games

but surely a fort or fleet defense would fit more into the fact that like those other games they are a separate game mode.

Is the sass actually necessary? Why so much hate from someone so young?

@pithyrumble said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

@badassfro said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

Why don't you go onto Call of Duty and ask them for PvE only servers?

They have a campaign and zombies for black ops.
Halo has firefight.
Titanfall has Outpost missions.
Even Fortnight has a "creative" mode where you can just goof off.

Btw. Maiden Voyage is a safe zone Rare said they'd never make... soooo

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Good luck non pvp op. Don't let the gangplank hit your aft on the way out 🤷🏽‍♀️

You'd have a point if you could actually progress in Maiden Voyage, accumulate gold or doubloons or even interact with other people. You can't. It's literally just an optional prologue to the game, to prepare you for the real deal.

@dat-boy-killjoy

Which is what they said private/pve servers would be if/when created...

@BadassFro

Everyone has their own techniques.
( I'm 42 btw lol)

@pithyrumble Then act like it, love

Maybe go to a game with no PvP in it to get away from the stress rather than a game that has PvP as a core feature instead of coming on here n just complain bcoz you got outdone.

I mean it’s pretty simply just play a game with no PvP.

@badassfro carefull , that's her trigger word.

Incoming "lol" and deflection my man.

Just a polite heads up.

@calcuz Like others have said why escape PvP in a game advertised as PvPvE?

But good news for you I guess.. we have been promised PvE/private servers with no reward/progression. So if you truly are ok with no progression then cool, perfect fit :)

No idea when they are actually going to come out with them but at some point in the future you can have your zen relaxation session on the seas.

@pithyrumble said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

@dat-boy-killjoy

Which is what they said private/pve servers would be if/when created...

@BadassFro

Everyone has their own techniques.
( I'm 42 btw lol)

The very fact you can not make any progress or gain means that it is not a private/PVE server. In fact, the only enemies you fight are a skeleton that is stuck in a tree and can not hurt you as well as a roaming skeleton ship that gets demolished by a kraken. It's a story-driven introduction to the game. You can't farm treasure. You can't create more crews or even acquire other ships. There's no benefit to it besides knowledge and nothing from it impacts your overall levels. I think the only thing you get from it is a title, achievement and jacket.

@calcuz said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

I just started back up on this game. I regret every penny I spend on it tonight. I spend 2-3 hours gathering stuff and exploring (i.e. having fun). A friend dropped in and we were almost immediately assaulted by another ship and I died twice within 5 minutes.

This isn't fun. I came to this game to get away from the stress of PvP but it's just as present here and I can't help but to look over my shoulder every second I am in it now.

Lot's of people here will say things like "git gud" or "just part of the game", but realize that there are NOT a lot of players on this game, and this is a big reason why. Give people a PVE option and you'd have a lot more players. Take away the ability to grind to legendary pirate or whatever, I wouldn't even care. I don't care about rep at all, I just want to play the game and have fun, but playing against these people who have 100s of hours in this game isn't fun at all. I am likely to uninstall and go to something else; that is a real shame because this has seriously relaxing gameplay that I really loved.

Sorry to hear you dont like the pvp.
Unfortunately this is a pvp game.

Unfortunately it seems this game may not be for you if you do not enjoy its core gameplay experience.

You could always just sail a brig solo though and escape most would-be killers. Only takes a few sessions to get comfortable with it, even solo.

Pvp is here to stay though, this you must accept just as you accept the waves beneath your ship.

For the contrary, there are thousands of players playing this game too.

Its not a PVE experience.
Its a pvp game with PVE elements.

If you want cooperative peaceful game perhaps No Mans Sky may be better suited.

The reason people shout GIT GUD etc etc is because if you got your way, a lot of players, even day 1 players would lose the game they love and that causes them frustration because everybody else, myself included have been harrases and killes but where we differ from you is that we never gave up, we found our stride and we love the game for the game it is.

Perhaps you need to keep with it and learn to survive.
Changing the game because its too hard isnt how the world works, nor should it.

We can do it, so you definitely can too.

You’ve had the game less than a week,
You will die and die a lot then you wont as much.
Its like any proper game.

You should watch youtube vids before you buy a game.
Then watch them to learn techniques.

No the reason you won't play is the match making isn't intelligent at all. I don't think Rare has any idea how to fix it other than make everything easier.

@calcuz said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

I just started back up on this game. I regret every penny I spend on it tonight. I spend 2-3 hours gathering stuff and exploring (i.e. having fun). A friend dropped in and we were almost immediately assaulted by another ship and I died twice within 5 minutes.

It's 5 mins following 3 hours of "fun". That 5 mins of PVP is less of a problem if you turn in loot often and... I keep saying this... don't worry about losing. You lose, you learn, you come back better.

This isn't fun.

You previously said you had 2-3 hours of fun though.

I came to this game to get away from the stress of PvP

Erm... wrong game for that, sorry...

but it's just as present here and I can't help but to look over my shoulder every second I am in it now.

Exactly how you should be playing. Keep one eye on the horizon.

Lot's of people here will say things like "git gud" or "just part of the game", but realize that there are NOT a lot of players on this game, and this is a big reason why.

[Citation needed]

Give people a PVE option and you'd have a lot more players.

And they'll leave within 2 months anyway when they realise that the threat of PvP, the tension, is really the biggest challenge in the game. PvE threats can be overcome pretty easily with not a lot of experience.

Take away the ability to grind to legendary pirate or whatever, I wouldn't even care. I don't care about rep at all, I just want to play the game and have fun,

If you don't care about rep, then why care about losing... or even succeeding, for that matter? By this metric, you lose nothing anyway if you lose in PvP.

but playing against these people who have 100s of hours in this game isn't fun at all.

The best thing about SoT is that everyone is equal at the start of a session. Experience can be acquired pretty quick with practice, you can learn a lot even watching streams (I recommend xShumbax, he's really good at teaching the game), but experience doesn't make you any more powerful.

I am likely to uninstall and go to something else; that is a real shame because this has seriously relaxing gameplay that I really loved.

I'm not gonna lie and say I wouldn't play whatever fantasy game you have in your head, but that's not Sea of Thieves. I've said it before but I would personally love Rare (maybe with help from Obsidian) to make a fully fledged singleplayer/co-op story RPG based on the tech used here, but that's wishful thinking.

As a PvE-focused player who sails solo 90% of the time, I can only advise you give the game more of a chance. We've all had bad days/nights in this game but the good far, far outweighs the negative, in my experience. It's about adventures and stories you create, solo and with friends, it's unpredictable and challenging at times, but that's what makes the game unique.

@pithyrumble Maiden Voyage is a tutorial, not a safe zone. You can't get there from within Adventure or Arena.

@calcuz Wait, you just want to play the game and have fun. Okay, well... it seems your sense of fun isn't this game. It is elements of this game, but it isn't this game. Alien: Isolation has some cool environments that are fun to explore... nice, relaxing... except for that pesky Alien thing that keeps ruining the relaxing fun. (Yes, you can mod out the Alien, but the devs didn't do that.)

@calcuz I play a lot of solo sloop, when I started out I hit the outpost after every mission so I did not loose my loot. I now know a lot of tricks and can keep most crews a bay long enough to do my turn ins. there are some days though you run into superior players and you get smashed and lose all your loot, but really to make this game PVE only would be super boring I mean whats gonna sink ya?

@calcuz said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

I just started back up on this game. I regret every penny I spend on it tonight. I spend 2-3 hours gathering stuff and exploring (i.e. having fun). A friend dropped in and we were almost immediately assaulted by another ship and I died twice within 5 minutes.

This isn't fun. I came to this game to get away from the stress of PvP but it's just as present here and I can't help but to look over my shoulder every second I am in it now.

Lot's of people here will say things like "git gud" or "just part of the game", but realize that there are NOT a lot of players on this game, and this is a big reason why. Give people a PVE option and you'd have a lot more players. Take away the ability to grind to legendary pirate or whatever, I wouldn't even care. I don't care about rep at all, I just want to play the game and have fun, but playing against these people who have 100s of hours in this game isn't fun at all. I am likely to uninstall and go to something else; that is a real shame because this has seriously relaxing gameplay that I really loved.

You bought a PvEvP game and hate PvP... Interesting. Maybe next time, know what you want to buy before just making a purchase. I know this isn't the answer you want, but we don't want these posts either to be honest.

For most of us that invested money and time into this game knew what it was and bought it because of that. This game is BEYOND fun for what it brings. What you speak of to us is not fun at all and boring. So just seems you bought the wrong game.

As for not a lot of players on the game, you spread fallacies to fit your narrative. Because why? You think Rare is going to see your single post after being 2 days on the forums and sympathize with this? SoT is constantly in the top 25 games on Xbox each week. That is fact, so yeah not a lot of players are playing this game. You are being ridiculous.

Even to that point, you think more players are going to play if they remove CP? Doubt it. They seem to be trying to push people away though with their newer attempts to segregate the community however. So hey, you might get your way and be the lone ship on the seas doing nothing with zero risk. Sounds like a blast!

And to threaten with statements like "I am likely to uninstall and go to something else" is hilarious. You think that is going to sway any of us in the community to give you the old "sorry buddy?" you have to see how ridiculous this post is.

Ok, so uninstall and move on. That is your prerogative. This game isn't for everyone and cannot cater to everyone. But to beat up on a game that you knew from the beginning what it was is your fault only and not the communities or games fault.

@captain-coel said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

@calcuz just need to cash out often till you get the ropes. Pvp isnt going anywhere

This isn't what they want. They want a game with Zero risk and nothing else.

@cokney-charmer said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

I can only interpret what he exactly said.. You can read it also. Just like every other post we have seen with this speficic thought said. Never said I was a moderator, and neither are you. So take your own advice.

But thanks and noted.

Also, look up the definition of toxic. Please try to stop abusing this term. It is grossly miss used over and over.

Now to the point of the discussion once again, someone bought into a PvP associated game that wants no PvP at all. Hmmm sounds like wait I said based on their post is accurate.

Have a good day.

Sir, you need to read.

"I just started back up on this game"

New huh.

And the post alone speaks to him wanting a sympathy party. Where in the post speaks to suggestions or a discussion outside of I am done with this game?

@dat-boy-killjoy said in PVP is the reason I won't play this game:

In fact, the only enemies you fight are a skeleton that is stuck in a tree and can not hurt you as well as a roaming skeleton ship that gets demolished by a kraken.

Woah! Spoilers!