I am hoping the see more tuck emotes, to be able to hide on ships. I also got to thinking with the tucking on ships if you could also make it possible for players to hide in barrels of ships and etc.
Now emotes are here maybe tuck emotes? And New ways to tuck on ships.
The sleep emote will likely be all you remain to have to work with, given it would be hard to make anything better for hiding. They won't make emotes specifically for it though, since you have to pay to get them and that goes against the core of the game. As for hiding in barrels, there's a few too many for that to be viable I think.
@glannigan said in Now emotes are here maybe tuck emotes? And New ways to tuck on ships.:
I don’t understand the whole “tuck” rage.
Like I would rather be spawn camped for and hour than sit on someone’s ship in the sleep emote.
Whatever, to each their own I guess
I live for sneaking around/tucking. It is a totally different way to play the game and if you know how to manipulate people you can face much more crazy odds solo than if you didn't use these tactics. Im editing a video but tldr of it is I successfully 1v7 agaisnt 2 allied galleons at a fort by sneaking around, blowing stuff up, and getting them to blame eachother.
Average tuck time for me is 20 minutes, longest so far has been 1 hour and 40 minutes (then got kicked via sleepybeard).
I recently watched a video of a well known player raging at the Devs about the whole 'tuck' phenomenon. I suppose other folks are also trying it. I found someone on my sloop a few months ago who killed me just before I made port. I suppose to steal stuff.
On the one hand I like the idea of using stealth over violence to pull something like that off, but on the other it is kind of annoying, depending on what you're doing, to find a stowaway creeping around.
Perhaps rather than a special emote, some sort of change to the boat, or a 'crouch' option. Maybe they can have an "Animagus" potion from the Order that lets one impersonate one of the pets?I just wish the term "tuck" would go away and we all go back to calling it "hiding on a ship" like we did before we pretended a certain popular streamer invented a tactic that people have been using long before he even started playing the game....
@glannigan said in Now emotes are here maybe tuck emotes? And New ways to tuck on ships.:
I don’t understand the whole “tuck” rage.
Like I would rather be spawn camped for and hour than sit on someone’s ship in the sleep emote.
Whatever, to each their own I guess
agree. give me a straight up fight any day.
tucking is just lame IMHO. people still can do it but I don't get the allure.
@treefittymonsta said in Now emotes are here maybe tuck emotes? And New ways to tuck on ships.:
@glannigan said in Now emotes are here maybe tuck emotes? And New ways to tuck on ships.:
I don’t understand the whole “tuck” rage.
Like I would rather be spawn camped for and hour than sit on someone’s ship in the sleep emote.
Whatever, to each their own I guess
agree. give me a straight up fight any day.
tucking is just lame IMHO. people still can do it but I don't get the allure.
Totally agree. It’s just Trolling. Like that dude above is all Like “I took out 2 Galleons using the tuck method”.
Why? You don’t have a Ship. You got no spawn point. Your incapable of even acquiring the loot. Other than the Troll Glory you give yourself what’s the point of it?
I agree with you. Gonna fight, fight like a man not some sniveling coward hiding on his belly for an hour to ruin 2 Crews efforts and time.
Again for what? Your 39 second YouTube clip no one is interested in?
Manipulate people? That’s a kinda creepy megalomaniac kinda way to experience this wonderful game.
Your not “manipulating” anyone. Your Troll’n. Like a Troll. All Troll like.
@chronodusk
It's an annoying word, yes. Don't know why he gets so much credit for it either, he's credited with 'inventing' the double-gun exploit as well when all he did was spread it.@treefittymonsta
Some people want to play stealthily. Others want to go guns blazing. Others want to be friendly. It's a playstyle, nothing anyone should have against it, past annoyance when it works against them.@ultmateragnarok said in Now emotes are here maybe tuck emotes? And New ways to tuck on ships.:
@chronodusk
It's an annoying word, yes. Don't know why he gets so much credit for it either, he's credited with 'inventing' the double-gun exploit as well when all he did was spread it.@treefittymonsta
Some people want to play stealthily. Others want to go guns blazing. Others want to be friendly. It's a playstyle, nothing anyone should have against it, past annoyance when it works against them.How is it a play style? Look I PVP and flood the seas with the tears of sunken sailors. I’m a PVE’rs worst nightmare!
But I do it with skin in the game and for fortune and glory!
These mother “Tuckers” have no skin in the game. They can’t even gain anything from it! Even if they sink a Fleet of 3 Galleons that did 9 Skullforts what’s the point?
They have no way to obtain the loot. They can’t gain any xp or gold from it. They can’t transport it.
You guys think griefing Tall Tales is wrong but find this acceptable? I think it’s even worse!
It is the very definition of Trolling!
If u want to tuck than tuck its possible. Its a game mechanic. All good there.
BUT asking for tuck emotes is a definite NO for me.
Emotes are bought with money. If we get more Tuck emotes which means maybe a better tuck emote than sleep emote that the tucking game becomes pay2win. And no this is not what they should do.My 2 doubloons on the matter.
The term "tucking" is dead to me, but the tactic of Hiding on a ship is valid and decent in my opinion as long as it isn't overused. I think there are some circumstances where hiding on a ship is a really good tactic.
I mean, if you know a crew has a Chest of Legends on board, they're en route to the outpost, and you can get yourself on board and hidden - why not steal the chest that way if you can pull off that heist? There's nothing wrong with that, especially if the opposing crew is failing to notice you!
Hiding on a ship for hours on end and streaming it as content while you make a sandwich, and taking time to draw phallic images on the map isn't all that dignified, but the stealth tactic in and of itself is very useful and should not be frowned upon as it is simply one among a myriad of strategies someone can use to steal loot.
@glannigan there is no one pirate style that is the best and only way to play this game. The while point of being a pirate is that you are free, to do and act as you see fit... while hopefully acquiring loot.
You see it as pure trolling, but for others it is a rewarding challenge to be able to navigate themselves around the activities of others undiscovered, while once discovered will mean combat and failure. It might not be your style, but to each their own way of pirating.
Also you are not considering options that are available:
- Acquiring loot, it is possible by row boat, stealing the ship you are hiding on or having your crew mates come pick you up. Swimming is even an option... if you are dedicated enough.
- Having other people fight each other, especially when they are in an alliance, can be used to weaken them for your crew to come by and fight the victor or even result in the victory without the need to place your own ship in danger. Also a decent alternative to straight on combat if one isn't that good at it.
- Infiltration or stowing away and stealing the valuables that you want can be an amazing achievement in and of itself. It is a challenge, it might not be very lucrative (which many don't care about), but how often do you think people succeed at stealing from pirates in this manner? Murdering them is far easier.
- It can be plain fun, this is a game... that is the goal for most people. Many have enough money, have done and seen everything the game has to offer so the not acquiring of loot isn't really a deal breaker. This offers a change of pace, it is a different approach and can help not getting bored.
I don't get why one would only do this, but it can be fun. Though I am not in favor of a special emote one can buy.
@cotu42 said in Now emotes are here maybe tuck emotes? And New ways to tuck on ships.:
@glannigan there is no one pirate style that is the best and only way to play this game. The while point of being a pirate is that you are free, to do and act as you see fit... while hopefully acquiring loot.
You see it as pure trolling, but for others it is a rewarding challenge to be able to navigate themselves around the activities of others undiscovered, while once discovered will mean combat and failure. It might not be your style, but to each their own way of pirating.
Also you are not considering options that are available:
- Acquiring loot, it is possible by row boat, stealing the ship you are hiding on or having your crew mates come pick you up. Swimming is even an option... if you are dedicated enough.
- Having other people fight each other, especially when they are in an alliance, can be used to weaken them for your crew to come by and fight the victor or even result in the victory without the need to place your own ship in danger. Also a decent alternative to straight on combat if one isn't that good at it.
- Infiltration or stowing away and stealing the valuables that you want can be an amazing achievement in and of itself. It is a challenge, it might not be very lucrative (which many don't care about), but how often do you think people succeed at stealing from pirates in this manner? Murdering them is far easier.
- It can be plain fun, this is a game... that is the goal for most people. Many have enough money, have done and seen everything the game has to offer so the not acquiring of loot isn't really a deal breaker. This offers a change of pace, it is a different approach and can help not getting bored.
I don't get why one would only do this, but it can be fun. Though I am not in favor of a special emote one can buy.
I get it if your in crew and one of you “sneak/tuck” on another ship while your crew with your ship is hiding off in the distance. Waiting for the right minute to strike or set up at the nearest outpost. So when you commit your sabotage your crew swoops in and reaps the reward.
But every “tuck” video I’ve ever seen is a solo player with no ship, no skin in the game and accomplishing nothing (No loot, no reward) other than trolling.
Very similar to the solo Slooper. Like school on Sunday ~ No class!
@glannigan I have done it solo and in crew.
Solo is a risk and was something I do based on the opportunity, I am not one to sit for hours on a ship, and for laughs to see if I could get something out of it while my crew went on doing the Athenas or what not. I was just a mermaid away anyway.
To successfully get something out of it is by making an assessment between discovery rate and effectiveness of the crew of the ship you are on. As you tend to do this before they got something that you want, keep in mind usually sneaky pirates just want a couple of items of specific value, rep or commendation. Naturally in PvP interaction the other will try and stop you, so ending up empty handed is common.
Usually the easier it is to hide, the slower the crew gets treasure and usually not anything interesting anyway. While the better the crew usually means less time you will have till someone spots you and the likelihood that they won't hunt you down is slim. Great crews spot you before you even reached the ship.
So, it is high risk, unique experience with usually very little to show for it. However, when used in crew scenarios as you pointed out yourself can be useful, add some value to your session and is therefore a way to be a addition to the crew.
I would be considered a troll by many. While doing this while my crew is out and about. If they discover me and I just fight and mess with them. I know that it will be that or try and spawn kill them while sailing to an outpost on their ship to sell the stuff. If the loot isn't good enough I am not calling my crew to come pick me up.
It also provides the people that record it to mainly play like this, cause that is what their audience wants to see and they will try to make it as fun to watch as possible. Which is why that is the main reason that the ones you see on YouTube, twitch, mixer, etc. being more trolly... that is because people are watching it isn't the playstyle itself, it is just one of the options you can do with it.
People can PvP, but can also spawn kill for 3 hours. That doesn't make all PvPers griefing spawn campers. It is a option of that type of style.
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