@ironuzuka said in Alliance System Petition:
No one is forcing you to get in an alliance.
To those unhappy few: just stay on your own and face our 5 ships armada.
Strength in numbers right ?
Sigh if I ever run into this I'll just quit until they fix it
Signed.
The original post isn't asking for it to be removed. He is asking for it to be delayed. Every patch has had issues. We all agree we can work with other ships without the alliance feature. What's the need to get it out with this update?
This is only to say to Rare to take their time and get all the bugs worked out. For that, it is worth signing. End the bugs.
Happy sailing tomorrow!
@d-jaguar said in Alliance System Petition:
Signed.
The original post isn't asking for it to be removed. He is asking for it to be delayed. Every patch has had issues. We all agree we can work with other ships without the alliance feature. What's the need to get it out with this update?
This is only to say to Rare to take their time and get all the bugs worked out. For that, it is worth signing. End the bugs.Happy sailing tomorrow!
Exactly. They said they were expanding the map in forsaken shores. Maybe by then they could increase the server capacity by then...
Or if they really have to implement it in this DLC. Please limit the alliance system to be between 2 ships only. 3 ships maximum......
If it was alowed on the forum i would write all the nasty words i culd,
Why do people alwaise start talk about stuff they have No clue about (or you have an insider that told you??)
We get new stuff to try out, and its Good to have tried it out fully (because) i think this Will have a Huge inpact on the game in the future,
Why do you want to try delay stuff other are rly looking forward to try out just because your not happy!? Dont try raise negativ stuff just because you feel worried about the new stuff,
Im happy because i Will be the wolf hiding in thieves heaven and wait for My prey’s
And If you dont remember when THD came out the servers was full of people, so stop judge and try it out.
@alzheimeers said in Alliance System Petition:
If it was alowed on the forum i would write all the nasty words i culd,
Why do people alwaise start talk about stuff they have No clue about (or you have an insider that told you??)
We get new stuff to try out, and its Good to have tried it out fully (because) i think this Will have a Huge inpact on the game in the future,
Why do you want to try delay stuff other are rly looking forward to try out just because your not happy!? Dont try raise negativ stuff just because you feel worried about the new stuff,
Im happy because i Will be the wolf hiding in thieves heaven and wait for My prey’s
And If you dont remember when THD came out the servers was full of people, so stop judge and try it out.
Nice opinion. Now let us have ours.
@treefittymonsta you are just negativ to the forum, try it out first before write, and ally system is an option not forced.
What makes yoi thing server capacity can even be increased. Before the game launched it went thru a series of scale test to determine the most effective size that both the server and map could support and that number was 6 ships or 24 players. I was apart of these scale test and while the data collected is been kept secret by Rare and has not been leak to the public i can say from personal experience that it is not very likely the this game would playable with a server count. If you still think Rare can work such servers just look up Server Migration feature one which till this day has issues and as far as can be determined is currently dissabled. Unless some other evidence can provided.
You know, this might just be the extra level of challenge you pirates are looking for. Imagine an alliance of pirate hunters making your job more difficult and perilous! Doesn't that challenge sound good to you?
@d-jaguar said in Alliance System Petition:
What's the need to get it out with this update?
The alliance system is being rolled out with Cursed Sails because we will all face a common enemy against the skeleton ships. Forming alliances may be an important tool in combating this new threat. It will allow crews to share both the dangers and rewards. Moreover, there's no good reason to delay the implementation of alliances. The feature has been play-tested and is ready to roll out. It will not be delayed. So why not reserve judgment until you've actually played the game with the new features? It might turn out to be pretty awesome.
@genuine-heather said in Alliance System Petition:
@d-jaguar said in Alliance System Petition:
What's the need to get it out with this update?
The alliance system is being rolled out with Cursed Sails because we will all face a common enemy against the skeleton ships. Forming alliances may be an important tool in combating this new threat. It will allow crews to share both the dangers and rewards. Moreover, there's no good reason to delay the implementation of alliances. The feature has been play-tested and is ready to roll out. It will not be delayed. So why not reserve judgment until you've actually played the game with the new features? It might turn out to be pretty awesome.
Fine... but they need to limit to 2 crews... not 6 crews like they mentioned in the video. I don't want to be on a server where everyone has allied together.
@genuine-heather said in Alliance System Petition:
I think all this Chicken Little hyperbole is a bit silly and way premature. Introducing alliance mechanics is by no means synonymous with "PvE servers". I don't see it changing the game all that much. Pirates will still be pirates. Those inclined to attack on sight will still do so. The uncertainty and suspense of seeing an approaching ship will remain tense and fraught with danger. Alliances will not be easy to form, and will likely only happen between crews already predisposed towards peaceful cooperation.
Alliances will be a useful tool for those inclined to join with other players for mutual benefit. That's a good thing. It will not result in anything resembling "PvE servers." That's a nonsensical fear, especially considering the fact that the alliance mechanic hasn't even been rolled out yet. Good heavens, can we at least wait to see how it has been implemented before declaring the game dead?
Even if your worst fears come to pass (however unlikely), it could result in even more challenges and greater rewards for daring pirates. If PvP is your thing, imagine PvP on an even grander scale. Allied ships won't always be bunched together. Consider the strategy involved in picking your fights, waiting for that unsuspecting ship to break away from the fleet so you can pick them off. Real life pirates had to contend with allied ships. They developed strategies to overcome superior numbers, and so will you.
The sky is not falling.
There are only so many ways alliances can play out.
The join us or die alliance.
The alliances that just obliterate everyone.
The alliances that take over skull forts.
I don't see how any of those scenarios are favorable.
@iamwilliamb said in Alliance System Petition:
@trickrtreat01 they aren't going to
work that way. you will see why tomorrow.
It will me interesting if nothing else
@dragonsire2016 said in Alliance System Petition:
@iamwilliamb said in Alliance System Petition:
@trickrtreat01 they aren't going to
work that way. you will see why tomorrow.It will me interesting if nothing else
It's going to be a mess. Oh well... Hopefully they see this post and limit alliances to two crews and not the whole dang server.
@gloog said in Alliance System Petition:
@treefittymonsta alliances should be implemented in a way where they can't possibly dominate a server. Or make them uneasy enough via mechanics to not guarantee their life.
3 ships max? and even that is essentially dominating.
Dang missed reading ur post. In the behind the scenes video they specifically said six ships could dominate a server... This is what concerns me.
@alzheimeers said in Alliance System Petition:
@treefittymonsta then just Change server! Is that so hard???
I don't mind changing servers, as long as I'm notified that an alliance exists on the server, via some kind of notification system, which allows me to immediately understand my predicament. If there is no notification how am I supposed to know that the server is being dominated by one alliance
An alliance is fine as long as it only includes one other crew, two ships total.
Anything beyond that is too much for a six ship server limit. It will either become a totally PvE server or a totally PvP server and the chances are that you may not be in with the top guys or in any alliance at all.
The fact of the matter is we've had crew alliances several times outside of bi-weekly events where I'd leave our crew to commandeer another vessel, fill it with known, trusted, friends and we'd sail together as a group of mates.
The server always kicked the lot of us at the same time.... both crews.
@MrGrim67686 , @Blooddoll22 and many others not registered on these forums can vouch for that.
@admiral-rrrsole said in Alliance System Petition:
An alliance is fine as long as it only includes one other crew, two ships total.
Anything beyond that is too much for a six ship server limit. It will either become a totally PvE server or a totally PvP server and the chances are that you may not be in with the top guys or in an alliance at all.The fact of the matter is we've had crew alliances several times outside of bi-weekly events where I'd leave our crew to commandeer another vessel, fill it with known, trusted, friends and we'd sail together as a group of mates.
The server always kicked the lot of us at the same time.
@MrGrim67686 , @Blooddoll22 and many others not registered on these forums can vouch for that.
Thanks for the backup on this. Hopefully we can limit the incoming alliance System abuse. Ur name made me lol.
@treefittymonsta Why shuld you know whats happening on the server??? What thrill is that If you alrdy know everything on the server???
Dont you see How stupid this looks??? Do you rly understanding what you writing???
First of all
You dont know anything about ally system (If you dont have a pioneer) telling you stuff.
2: you read and asume How it works and Starting a stupid signing post about it.
3: you want to know exactly whats happening around you or you dont want to play
4: you sound 100% PvE’er so be happy about ally system because it Will help you.
5: this game is not about beeing safe so just stop with what you asking for because you write like you want to be 110% safe.
6: get som ally’s before you start to do mission and u know what server your on.
@alzheimeers said in Alliance System Petition:
@treefittymonsta Why shuld you know whats happening on the server??? What thrill is that If you alrdy know everything on the server???
Dont you see How stupid this looks??? Do you rly understanding what you writing???
First of all
You dont know anything about ally system (If you dont have a pioneer) telling you stuff.
2: you read and asume How it works and Starting a stupid signing post about it.
3: you want to know exactly whats happening around you or you dont want to play
4: you sound 100% PvE’er so be happy about ally system because it Will help you.
5: this game is not about beeing safe so just stop with what you asking for because you write like you want to be 110% safe.
6: get som ally’s before you start to do mission and u know what server your on.
I appreciate your opinion.
I don't pve much if at all in this game. I only Pvp if I can. I don't want allies. I would prefer chaotic unorganized uneasy nonformal alliances hat already exist in game. Formalizing allows people to organize groups that will lead to unpleasant situations if u are not in that alliance nor want to participate in an allied group.
@treefittymonsta Well then i do not understand u at all because Im a pvp’er and want to go agenst fleet’s (they can still harm eatch other)
Have to say I'm really looking forward to the alliance system. I've always thought it would be great to have more reasons to approach another ship with friendly intentions - the ability to share voyages with other crews will be a wonderful incentive. I know that I'll be offering Athena voyages to those who want them.
I get your concern, and I've no doubt there will be instances where entire servers are allied together, allowing them to farm peacefully - but so what? The chances of finding a server of all friendly ships is pretty low, and risks will have to be taken to form said alliance, so fair play to those crews I say. On a PVP front, yes, I imagine there will be times when we find ourselves facing an alliance of several ships that might take pleasure in stomping the entire server. Again, they took the effort and risk to form such an alliance and are playing the game the way they choose too - it may not sound like a fair solution but it only takes 5 minutes to drop out and start a new session if the one you're in is that bad (which I don't think it will be, to be honest).
Bottom line is, we just don't know how the system will work yet. I say lets get it in so we can try it out ourselves. Like I say, I'm really excited to see it.
Also, not signed, sorry.
@luciansanchez82 I agree with you wholehaertedly. I'm also NOT signing as I feel it's kind of pointless to cry wolf before it's even implemented. I'd say have some faith in Rare and above all in the community.
People want to work together but this is impaired by loot not being shared and people have to put a lot of faith in others to keep their word. Having a system that does this for them just makes interactions a little less hostile. Noone is saying everyone is going to band together on a single server. Most people don't even want that because they feel others are going to leech off their progress. It's not like if 2 ships band together against the rest 4 others can't do the same against those ships. And if they do think about the desperate last man standing win or lose scenario. Make something fun out of it.
@hynieth Yup, more ways to play can only be a good thing. I dare say it'll be somewhat hectic for the first couple of weeks as crews get used to it. But in time I can see some great stories coming from this.
@treefittymonsta you know, if you don't reply they don't. Don't feed them. We said our piece. Just let it go. You don't have to have the last word.
This was supposed to be as simple as signed or not signed. I think there are more unsigned. Oh well we tried. Just keep sailing.
@d-jaguar said in Alliance System Petition:
@treefittymonsta you know, if you don't reply they don't. Don't feed them. We said our piece. Just let it go. You don't have to have the last word.
This was supposed to be as simple as signed or not signed. I think there are more unsigned. Oh well we tried. Just keep sailing.
I appreciate your thoughts but, No way. I'm keeping this going until the bitter end. I think it's 50/50 at this point.
Ok lol. I'll admit when I'm wrong. the alliances are great. It gives pve guys a false sense of security. Rolled up on two brigatines in my sloop that were allied together doing the Skeleton ships and left with two sunk Briggs and all their loot. Pretty neat that the skeleton ships drop all the loot and there's no key to hide. However do wish it wasn't so closer to the edge of the map.
@phelim-mcnab said in Alliance System Petition:
@treefittymonsta Ugh.
Not ugh. Lol. The whole time we were fighting them they were yelling at us 'ur shooting at the wrong boat'. It was quite hilarious. I do believe we were shooting at the right boat .
@treefittymonsta Yes, yes, yes... ugh. If you enjoy robbing people not only of loot, but access to time-limited exclusive gear in a community event, well... that’s a special kinda thing.
The entire Alliance system is a complete joke. Surely a reasonable person would expect the entire alliance crew to have green gamer tags and friendly fire shouldn't exist. If you argue that then you may as well as friendly fire on local crew too.
The system is likely to be abused so much as it can be so easily broken. I reckon each person in the alliance should be able to vote on whether or not it gets cancelled. Everyone I have online is so disheartened I just don't know who came up with the logic? Clearly no proper sandbox testing!
