Haters. Gonna Hate.

No.

Within the purview of the forum rules, I will discuss the game however I like.

For me, that means posting heavy criticisms about a game loaded with potential, but not actualizing it.

And when good news and updates come along, they will be praised accordingly, because I am not a hypocrite, but I will also not be driven off by people demanding an echo chamber like you. I followed this game for years before release, I can continue to follow it.

@boomstickband1t dijo en Haters. Gonna Hate.:

Sure it's got issues. But it's still fun. And until it isn't for ME. I will keep playing.

Well, while it is not fun for others, they will keep complaining. Nobody is telling you not to have fun. Enjoy it. Those who don't, can complain, that's what a forum is about.

@cmdrllama

Agreed. There is NOTHING wrong with criticism, in fact it is what is going to make this game better.

The gameplay is great and there is nothing wrong with people asking or commenting on what they want more of.

The devs said they want this game to grow with the community. If all any of us do is praise then nothing will be accomplished.

Side note, I love the game.

@weslumundo said in Haters. Gonna Hate.:

I think OP is trying to say he is tired of hearing the same criticisms over and over and would prefer structured argument instead of the same comments regurgitated all over the forms.

Think about the effort involved. When you request a 'structured argument' you are essentially requesting a long form essay from someone, a lot of work. It's easier to just fire some thoughts out quickly summarized.

Unsurprisingly, many people have similar thoughts since the game has significant problems. This is not pure regurgitation although your view of it may seem that way. Regurgitation assumes people read other people's accounts and are just parroting. You can't really know this from third person. I heavily criticize this game on the forums, but it's a synthesis of my own game experiences plus some 'good ideas/arguments' I've heard over the course of months.

Back to the 'structured argument' essay, it takes a lot of effort, and is just as easily passed over by detractors as "same old same old" since some things bear repeating, or can only be described in specific ways, or obvious repetitive solutions

That being said, I am working on an essay, lol.

@pugglebeard said in Haters. Gonna Hate.:

@cmdrllama See here's the thing, if you dislike a game all the power to you! Just don't convince someone who previously loved it that it sucks and you shouldn't play it. Leave the people who want to play the game to play the game.

I am not sure if this is really addressed to me or not. Feel free to go through every post of mine on this forum. Nowhere have I suggested people loving the game should stop playing it.

Quite the contrary, my criticisms are large and many, and I am pretty sure people will just stop playing the game of their own accord. It will not take very long as online game timescales go, my prediction.

My heavy criticism of the game is twofold: wake-up call to Rare and anyone listening, and an invitation to discussion. Ultimately, I want that criticism to lead to solid suggestions for the future of the game, if it still has a future (some of this is now market forces we do not directly control). Naturally, through discussion that arises, my criticisms and resulting suggestions will improve over time. But most of the time they'll probably fall on deaf ears or be hand-waved aside as "ruining my fun, I like it at least!"