GET RID IF DOUBLE GUNNING NOW ITS HORRIFIC AND RUINED YOUR GAME
DOUBLE GUNNING
It really didnt ruin the game considering how many years the game has been running with it still in. Spamming caps will not ever get anyone at any company to take posts seriously, especially when it does not add anything that has not been said before, and in less detail than any other way it has been said. This change is not happening.
@burnbacon
This “double gunning” is for all players, so people who complain are complaining about a feature they can use.Cheating and exploiting is different in some scenarios because those could depend on both your settings and hardware. Ex. ladder launch was done by manipulating framerate, which console players cannot do effectively.
@swagalisous7451 said in DOUBLE GUNNING:
@burnbacon
This “double gunning” is for all players, so people who complain are complaining about a feature they can use.Cheating and exploiting is different in some scenarios because those could depend on both your settings and hardware. Ex. ladder launch was done by manipulating framerate, which console players cannot do effectively.
Funny you mention that, cuz you have a whole post complaining about sword users, as well as comments in other similar posts 😂
Take your own advice then, and start using a sword.
Insane statement considering that the sword is clearly overpowered. It’s a crutch weapon that needs to get nerfed, calling for it being nerfed is not the same as wanting it to he removed from the game.
The posts and comments I made about the sword were also before the new swap update, so context mattered.
Sword: Hold button to swish swish. (only three) Hold secondary to block.
With sword block you can hop and bounce, even charge an attack. Miss said charge attack, you take a couple second breather.
Each hit does what, 25 hit points? So total of 75 if all hits connect, which in this game is....Hit-Miss :pMind you, Pistol does 55 and EoR does 70 (which DG use a lot = instant kill)
With the "new" rework, change, fix weapon swap....this just basic now. No fights are equal anymore. If you dont learn to DG because of reasons, your gonna have a bad time.Range weapons always out play CQ weapons. No need to board if you can long shot someone. Sword and Blunder only real two weapons made for CQ and should have advantage if you decide to board a ship and get close.
Losing a fight in CQ because you choose to DG isnt a crutch, its a tactic choice. You chose wrong weapon, and make mistake in being within its range.Nerfing sword because you hate getting "stun" because you wanna get up close and pow-pow, is your choice but poor. Just because streamers can pull it off doesnt mean everyone can. Same with DG. Not everyone can or will do it. Everyone should have equal fighting choice.
Think the Sword is OP because you die from it...that on you.At the very moment, 20 Hourglass fights in a row, all crash ships. Jump on board and pow-pow. Instant death, because some of us "casual players" who dont react very well to these quick shots suffer. Thanks for that. Dont play CoD either because that how they play, fast pace action. Its not fun to lose, but its a given. Its also not fun to lose when everyone plays the same..combo..over and over.
Forget..we have Blowdarts, Blunderbombs, Firebombs, puke Buckets, throwing knives, Knife stabs, tridents, spears, and yes...Cannonballs.
But the PvP in Sea of thieves players, want a faster, quicker, and dominating experience. No silly plays, just straight up "Skill that doesnt exist" Mirage. (Much like Arc Raiders is appearing to be, lucky the Dev for that game are smarter atm)Nerf the Sword, Buff the Blunderbuss. Make combat in this game like CoD.
What next? Remove all weapons besides BB and Pistol because nobody uses them, Reopen armory on enemy ships.@swagalisous7451 said in DOUBLE GUNNING:
Insane statement considering that the sword is clearly overpowered. It’s a crutch weapon that needs to get nerfed, calling for it being nerfed is not the same as wanting it to he removed from the game.
The posts and comments I made about the sword were also before the new swap update, so context mattered.
Again disingenuous? Not surprised lol.
Why don't you say that you made those statements despite knowing the swap update is coming. It's not you didn't know about quick swap. You asked for nerfs anyways.
But sure buddy, we're all blind and don't understand what you and a bunch of others are doing when whining about swords. 😂
TL:DR - you and a bunch of few others are the last people that should be telling OP not to complain "about a feature they can use".
And the funniest thing is - I do not even agree with OP, at all. I'm just not a big fan of hypocrisy, and I can super easily spot it. But I'm sure you're already well aware of that. 😁
@swagalisous7451
As a doublegunner myself, I have to disagree with you. With the recent addition of qs my guns are finally working as they are supposed to and they dont take 10 buisness days to fire one bullet. But bc of that change I think that doublegun is dominating the pvp meta a bit too much.
I would like too see a buff for the cutlass, but it should be a mechanic you actually have to learn.
So no left click spam. I think that would be a good change to raise the skill ceiling of the sword, while giving it a buff for competent sword users@r3vanns The swap update wasn't finished yet, so it's impossible to know how well it was going to work.
Also I'm asking for nerfs because I saw how annoying the sword became after OG quickswap got patched. All there should be is the stun to be tweaked.
@swagalisous7451 said in DOUBLE GUNNING:
@r3vanns The swap update wasn't finished yet, so it's impossible to know how well it was going to work.
Also I'm asking for nerfs because I saw how annoying the sword became after OG quickswap got patched. All there should be is the stun to be tweaked.
Do you really think I care? For all intents and purposes double gunners may be annoying to me, yet never since I started playing this game I ever asked for nerfs. Not just guns - on any weapon, or any style. Cuz that's a personal choice.
So that's all I can and will say on topic of weapon nerfs, and people asking for them - deal with your own choices and styles.
@r3vanns "Again disingenuous? Not surprised lol.
Why don't you say that you made those statements despite knowing the swap update is coming. It's not you didn't know about quick swap. You asked for nerfs anyways."
@swagalisous7451 said in DOUBLE GUNNING:
@r3vanns "Again disingenuous? Not surprised lol.
Why don't you say that you made those statements despite knowing the swap update is coming. It's not you didn't know about quick swap. You asked for nerfs anyways."
You're quoting what exactly? For me saying I don't care?
That's related to your last statement about you dancing around trying to find a reason to justify why you're asking for sword nerfs.
That's what I don't care about, cuz it's meaningless. xD
Friendly tip: start working on reading comprehension.
@r3vanns All i quoted was you caring about what I said about nerfs, I think the sword should be nerfed, you don't, it's really not that big of a deal considering the other problems with pvp. You are just attacking atp without proving a point.
@swagalisous7451 said in DOUBLE GUNNING:
@r3vanns All i quoted was you caring about what I said about nerfs, I think the sword should be nerfed, you don't, it's really not that big of a deal considering the other problems with pvp. You are just attacking atp without proving a point.
Again, an attempt of disingenuous take. xD read my previous response.
I said I don't care about "I'm asking for nerfs because I saw how annoying the sword became" - which is REASON - meaning "why" not "what", in case you don understand the difference. I didn't say I didn't care about all the bad takes you've made before in general, but why you've made them.
I care to the point to call out all the obvious hypocrisy, obviously 😂
Which is exactly the point I didn't ever have to try really hard to prove, and I did prove it. 😁 Now take your time, before making your next funny disingenuous reply, and try to read with a bit of understanding.
@r3vanns
The entire point of my sword take “which you take for is being disingenuous” is that it has so much in its kit for what it was, and how extremely overpowered it has become when I made that take. It seems like you are trying to point out my “hypocrisy” over a post that is somewhat outdated now with faster swap now being added. I don’t really care for sword now because of the new swap times making it easier to deal with, but during that time it wasn’t insane to say it needed to be looked at.It sounds like you are trying to ragebait, which you like doing a lot🥀🥀
@r3vanns
Sounds like you are ragebaiting 🥀🥀My take on the sword has changed since the game has changed. Doesn’t make me a hypocrite or disingenuous, it makes me learn about the game and whether my previous take still stands. I still think some weapons need to be tweaked so they fit better, but calling for removing an entire mechanic is not really a good answer (like what they used to prevent quickswap)
If you wanna form a coherent argument and not just be aggressive for clicks, you could say that my post didn’t go into depth on how sword combat is.
I didnt mean the double reply, mobile forums is really buggy, so just disregard what i put for the first one
@swagalisous7451 said in DOUBLE GUNNING:
I didnt mean the double reply, mobile forums is really buggy, so just disregard what i put for the first one
Hey all good, we're just having fun here 😂 no offense taken!
I still think some weapons need to be tweaked so they fit better, but calling for removing an entire mechanic is not really a good answer (like what they used to prevent quickswap)
Fair enough.
See? I'm capable not only of "rage bating". 😁
@xirinorox
That would be a crazy nerf for everything exept the sword, so you should add a stamina bar for the sword to even it out.I know this nerf will never happen since its onesided and too much.
Why would you get invinite sword attacks and people playing any other weapon then the sword get 5 attacks?
Its just a bad idea and severely punishes one playstyle for no reason.@BurnBacon
If you want to add that to the previous suggestion, then the sword needs to be nerved along side it to keep it fair.
Make each swipe do 20 damage + the stamina bar again or as one alternative, take away the sword stunn.ok lets think my idea a bit further.
First my problem ist with DG how its is you get just bursted down in a sek and i think you have way to much ammo for that.
Lets say the same ammo TYPE is shared so like Sniper/Blunder/Pistol have a shared ammo capacity, and Knives and Blowpipe have there own ammo type. you know ?
This leeds to some more viarity in the Loadouts.Long story short i think DG as it is, is just broken as my english and it needs some more work.
You’re clearly one of the issues then. Being able to shoot both guns in about the space of 1 second is insane. No one can really compete especially against pc players when I’m on controller. And before you try to mansplain about cross play yes I know I’m not thick , my brother only plays this game on pc so I have no choice. It’s insanely fast to switch weapons which you’re incapable of defending yourself with and instantly just die
@lucygr13ace it’s not necessarily a double gun issue. I run sword since the blunder nerf and I have zero issue with people double gunning. The REAL sweats are super rare to find.
Movement is 100% key in fighting a double gunner
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