the voicechat need to be watch i mean i hear every single slur in the book i am not an experianced player so i get sunk alot wich is not a problem but when i keep hearing the n word spammed to me via voicechat it gets rude. i mean even roblox of all games watches out for slurs in their voicechat but this game does not thats weird
this game needs to watch voicechat
@deepsea3378 it may work for one game since they’ve decided to automate their reporting process but Rare’s system for reporting is manual and is looked over by actual human beings. Certain words cannot be typed into the chat which makes sense, but you can’t stop people from saying words and it not be heard (unless you mute them), otherwise you’d have very intrusive software listening to every conversation and potentially false flagging things they say and banning them by mistake. Best bet is to report people who are using slurs and foul language with evidence and they’ll get banned.
I can't speak for other countries but, here in the states, the laws over recording someone talking are varied from state to state.
Some allow for single party consent (Meaning only 1 person in the conversation has to agree to be recorded).
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So what happens if 8 people on 2 ships from 8 different states are talking?
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What if no one consents?
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What about laws for different countries?
We also have to get into what kind of program would be needed to record said voice communications.
What permissions on your PC would it need? Many gamers are against PC games requiring high-level access to their PC.
It's just a legal and logistical nightmare, so it will never happen.
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Voice to text gets it wrong all the time and there are a lot of situations where voice to text says that someone says something that they very obviously didn't say. I've seen it make someone look like they were using language that they weren't using. Which throws context/intent way off. It can and does make people look one way when they aren't acting that way.
Throw in accents, mic quality, and people's different cadences and I don't have confidence in that being detected accurately.
Example. Online gaming has a lot of homophobia in the comms. In SoT I'd say it's by the far the most common slurs to run into. It's common for the word gay to get picked up when it wasn't said and that can make text look very very different than it was said or intended.
Because SoT is open world, you’re going to hear FAR more than you’d imagine vs most other games. I hear it ALL the time. However, I do not let it bother me. If anything, I feel bad for them that feel compelled to be so abrasive in a pirate video game. You can tell there are much deeper seated issues.
You can always put yourself into a private party or discord if you don’t want to hear them. Sometimes I do this when trying to focus in hourglass. However, remember that in that case, you may also miss out on hearing the great people!
Finally, I always have to remind myself that just because they are tucking on you or attacking you does not inherently mean they are bad. They could be awesome people and your next favorite crew to play with. It is Sea of “Thieves” after all. Good luck and enjoy!
@guildar9194 I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the recording laws from state to state.
No matter what state someone is in, if you record someone else using slurs in this game and submit that recording to Rare, action will be taken on that player based on the recording...whether they consented to it or not. Period.
@sweetsandman said in this game needs to watch voicechat:
@guildar9194 I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the recording laws from state to state.
No matter what state someone is in, if you record someone else using slurs in this game and submit that recording to Rare, action will be taken on that player based on the recording...whether they consented to it or not. Period.
Yes, and that's a legal grey area in all honesty.
If RARE, a multi-million-dollar company, were to ignore recording laws by recording everyone's mic chatter; Some people (Those who get banned) would probably want to take them to court.
Granted, more research on my end has pulled up that, at least in my state, it only applies to 'secret recordings'; If all parties know they are being recorded, then consent is not necessary.
But it's still a hornet's nest, given how recording laws can change from state to state and country to country.
Hell, being recorded by other players is more illegal than Rare doing it, actually, because that could qualify as a 'secret recording'. Huh.Given the game's speech to text has major issues with some accents (particularly failing to decipher my Irish accent), I'm going to give a big no to any automated systems being used to enforce voicechat guidelines. If they want to use to pick out problematic folk for manual review, then it should follow an actual report.
Regarding above concerns over privacy, I'm not a lawyer but I would be very surprised if you didn't waive those rights when you agreed to the Xbox Live terms of service or services agreement.
@guildar9194 I mean, if that truly was the case, streaming SOT would be a legal nightmare for Twitch, YouTube and Rare's streaming Partners.
I can't imagine there's not some "opt in agreement" aligned with online gaming and Microsoft's Xbox Live experience.
Neither of us is legal experts, I'm just saying people get recorded and their recordings are used for content creation and for disciplinary actions daily on SOT and many other online multiplayer games.
So, raising the red flag that you did seems out of place considering people in SOT are recorded against their will daily across the country.
@sweetsandman said in this game needs to watch voicechat:
@guildar9194 I mean, if that truly was the case, streaming SOT would be a legal nightmare for Twitch, YouTube and Rare's streaming Partners.
I can't imagine there's not some "opt in agreement" aligned with online gaming and Microsoft's Xbox Live experience.
Neither of us is legal experts, I'm just saying people get recorded and their recordings are used for content creation and for disciplinary actions daily on SOT and many other online multiplayer games.
So, raising the red flag that you did seems out of place considering people in SOT are recorded against their will daily across the country.
No reasonable expectation of privacy as far as legally goes so that's why nobody has issues other than copyright infringement stuff.
Ethically I think people go too far into invasion of privacy in a game like SoT but there isn't really anything legally that would stop them.
Private convos are different than public spaces. That's complex in SoT ethically because so many people have no idea what goes on here when they are new but that's separate from legal stuff.
Lack of resources and AI being unreliable for accuracy would be what would prevent it in general.
The pipeline of inexperienced people's hot mics (where they often have no idea people can even hear them) turning into SoT content to mock them has always been something that I've considered unethical in the SoT community, but in "public" spaces the rules are loose.
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