Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics

  • As someone that's completed every Season, I have been pondering ideas for the most appropriate and respectful ways to re-introduce Season cosmetics that aren't exclusive to their respective Seasons. It comes up often, and you've got players that want it to be made super easy (because Seasonal progression is easy), players that want it to be super hard (because it would diminish the value of Seasonal progression), and all points in between.

    What if, similar to Arena cosmetics, they are re-introduced, but as time-limited cosmetics? They could be tied to completing various commendations by a certain announced date... "announced" being the key word here. Then, after the timeframe has passed, those items are now considered time-limited and exclusive forevermore. Those commendations can then be re-used as a "last chance" for subsequent Season items.

    For my example, we'll dissect Season 1 and use Season 7 as the cutoff date. Now, I realize I'm getting pretty specific in this example, but it's more to present a concept than anything.

    Accomplished Kraken Lantern - This will be made available to any player that achieves the 'Master Kraken Hunter' title before the beginning of Season 7

    Frostbite Cosmetics (all of them) - These will be made available to any player that achieves the 'Banisher of the Flame' title before the beginning of Season 7

    Legendary Bound Beard, Lengthy Hair, and Updo Hair - These will be made available to any player that achieves the 'Legendary Treasure Hunter' title before the beginning of Season 7

    Accomplished Aristocrat Hat...
    Accomplished Bone Crusher Wheel...
    Accomplished Parrot Cutlass...
    Eastern Winds Jade Eye of Reach...

    Legendary Curse - This will be made available to any player that achieves Grade 5 Peerless Legend before the beginning of Season 7

    I feel this not only has the potential to give a purpose to some of the under-appreciated commendations in the game, but also respect the efforts of the dedicated players and allow for there to be time limited exclusive items every season but with two time-sensitive opportunities to unlock those rewards.

    Thoughts? Feelings?

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  • As someone who has also fully completed every season, i'm not too sure how to add these cosmetics back.

    Only have a idea for the Pl Curse, where it's added back under a reasonable commendation, but it's a version without the chest symbol. That way new players can still look like Belle or the Mysterious Stranger, but us "veterans" still have a way of showing we completed the original season as a PL

  • @el-spaniardchi While I much prefer the idea of re-skins, it sounds like that would go against what Rare said somewhere about making Season cosmetics available again after the Season. Re-introducing is not the same as re-skinning and you'd have players in an uproar over the details.

  • @sweetsandman said in Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics:

    @el-spaniardchi While I much prefer the idea of re-skins, it sounds like that would go against what Rare said somewhere about making Season cosmetics available again after the Season. Re-introducing is not the same as re-skinning and you'd have players in an uproar over the details.

    I don't think that's too big of a deal, as some players who got it the og way will be up in arms if nothing is changed about it (not me, i don't even use the curse lol). Either way, someone will be mad over some pixels.

    It's such a finicky and fine line...

  • I’m not sure if adding them back as limited timed cosmetics would be a good idea. You’d have sets like frostbite and Jade permanently incomplete for the majority of players. Besides, the shops are pretty bare with new additions so the past cosmetics could really help.

    If them being rare is part of the issue then put the PL items behind millions of gold and a more difficult commendation. What if the PL curse was behind Legendary Hunter of the Sea of Thieves and costed 3 mill gold? It’d be very rare and hard to get ahold of. Way harder than getting level 100 in the first season.

    Maybe add the Eastern Winds Jade eye of reach back with the other 3 weapons and put them behind a bilge rat commendation like selling 25 Ashen Lord skulls. Make them 150k gold a piece.

    I definitely feel that bringing them back but making them only limited time would hurt more players than it would help.

  • @el-spaniardchi said in Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics:

    As someone who has also fully completed every season, i'm not too sure how to add these cosmetics back.

    Only have a idea for the Pl Curse, where it's added back under a reasonable commendation, but it's a version without the chest symbol.

    I'd love a version without the chest symbol, I don't use it because of that!

    In regards to the OP, I'm also unsure on the best way to re-add previous Season cosmetics, this isn't a bad idea, but I don't think they should be locked behind specific commendations.

    I think I'd be happy for them to be added to Larinna for gold or doubloons (but more expensive than the current measly 50 doubloons!). This then means, that to originally achieve them, you played the game however you wanted. To then achieve them when they are available again, you play the game any way you want.

    Take the Barrel Disguise for example. 50 doubloons from Larinna. Those that played during the Season, earnt it and had time to flex it/use it on those who didn't. Your reward was getting early access to it for free, by playing during the Season. Those that didn't and don't have 50 doubloons, play the game and earn it for purchase.

    If they made this a standard, and announced a better price for the items (perhaps 250 Doubloons/50000 Gold each), it may incentivise people to play more during the Season, knowing they can get it free just for playing. Those that missed out, would then have a reason to get those Reaper Chest's which get left in shipwrecks forever!

  • @ninja-naranja said in Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics:

    I’m not sure if adding them back as limited timed cosmetics would be a good idea. You’d have sets like frostbite and Jade permanently incomplete for the majority of players.

    This already exists across various different sets. The most prominent being Bone Crusher and Wailing Barnacle. I definitely see what you're saying, though. Perhaps time-limited "anniversary" events to obtain them is better than the two-and-done I proposed.

  • I can see them re-releasing certain things and definitely not others. Barrel was always coming back because it can help with tucking (regardless of how veterans can tell the difference). The dice makes sense too since it added a new RP element to the game.

    Having old season rewards be available for commendations that a lot of players have already done would kind of suck for the people who already did the season AND already completed those commendations. What do those players get?

    They will probably re-skin certain things like the PL curse and other cosmetics so that the people who actually played the game then have their unique items.

    This is just like arena. There will never be a way to get the legendary weapons, but there will be re-skinned options available behind a commendation.

    Rare will not make everyone happy regardless. Re-skinning and keeping most season items unique is the best option.

    I say all of this as someone who started playing in season 3.

  • To me it feels like Rare is trying to satisfy everyone: they want to reward those who didn’t miss any season by giving them some kind of time-limited cosmetics, while making sure to return them to please newer Players. As a result we get time-limited items … which aren’t really time-limited.

    In my opinion they shouldn’t return season rewards. You haven’t been there in time, you won’t get the reward. That’s how most other games handle time-limited stuff.

    But that wasn’t your question. I agree with El Spaniardchi: Returning them as reskins will satisfy both, veterans as well as newer Players. How about, for example, a purple version of the PL curse? This way the original cosmetic would still feel special while Gamers who missed the curse could enjoy a variant.

  • I missed completing the last 2 seasons, due to having a new crew mate in the family, but if I really want a cosmetic, I'll try and grind it. It's more than enough time. Or just add the set to the Emporium for the lazy and Rare wins more funding.

  • Honestly, I have a pretty relaxed view of all this and I think a mixed approach is probably the best.

    Cosmetics that can be easily associated to existing Commendations can have that done with them where it makes sense.

    Holiday themed ones can be associated to holiday based events in years to come since a lot have admittedly been of this nature actually.

    The rest you can just slap a price tag on them, toss them in the shops, and call it a day.

    Fact of the matter is they made it clear that these would come back when the system dropped so there should be no hard feelings there. Getting them in the Seasons means that you get them for essentially just playing during that time with how Renown works, and missing will me you might have to jump through some hoops or drop some coin to get them instead. And by having at least some general delay from Season to public release means you also get "timed exclusivity" from them.

    That, in my humble opinion, would be a perfectly fine approach. I'm sure some will still grumble because that is how people are, but I think too much consideration is being made for something that could really just be very simple.

  • @redeyesith Rare is partly (mostly) to blame for the current opinions of the community. Their "officially" saying that seasonal rewards would return was not overly public unless you're deep in the weeds here and on discord. And to compound it, they never said how or when they would return. Everything was left vague, probably because they didn't have answers at the time....but we're 14 months after Season 1 kicked off. Something publicly official is long overdue. Until then, we'll speculate, bicker, and make suggestions assuming Rare still doesn't have answers.

  • I disagree. Either keep it exclusive or bring back every single time limited cosmetic including the Legendary Sea Dog weapons.

    Im so tired of the hypocrisy. Are the cosmetics supposed to tell our pirate's story or not?

    Why should new pirates get a curse from season one if season one players cant get older cosmetics like wandering reaper and bone crusher etc. etc. & etc. ?

    "Because Rare vaguely hinted a maybe" is not a valid reason in my opinion.

  • Never its exclusive

  • @sweetsandman agree with that, absolutely. They have not always communicated clearly when Cosmetics will be in different buckets (time limited, timed exclusive, generally available), and that is 100% on them. And it is a reasonable source of frustration in the community as a result, because these things do in fact matter to people.

    I have no problem with any of the potential buckets being used, so long as they are explicit in what is happening with what so that as consumers of their product we have the ability to make informed choices about the things on offer.

    I wasn't getting at that in my post as that didn't seem to be the point of the thread, rather I focused on my stance of how they should go about dumping the items that are meant to come back into the available pool of content. I was certainly not exempting Rare from any blame in how the community is presently reacting about everything.

  • @timedsatyr79799 said in Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics:

    Never its exclusive

    No, it isn't.

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  • Things that are not themed to the season have always been stated as comming back at some point. It's a when not if situation.

  • @jaegerdelta3465 said in Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics:

    Things that are not themed to the season have always been stated as comming back at some point. It's a when not if situation.

    Even more important than the "when" is the "how"...nothing has at any point been publicly said as far as I know. That's the reason for my original post...to make a suggestion to Rare since 14 months after Season 1, we still don't know the "how" component...

    If they wind up as poorly done as the Barrel Hide emote, you're going to have a whole bunch of disappointed Adventure players. They've already alienated the Arena community, might as well slap Adventure players, too amiright?

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    BuT oNLy TwO pErCeNt Of PLaYeR tImE wAs SpEnT iN aReNa!!

    • We can also add that they have just lost a ton of achievement hunters because they won't remove the achievements.

    At this point I think the power might have gone to their head. They've realised that they are sat on a Gold Mine and now are letting the game suffer and it's (loyal) players suffer.

    With its current trajectory, they'll be holding players in the game by the thin thread that is time limited commendations and adventures.

  • @ottyman8687 said in Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics:

    With its current trajectory, they'll be holding players in the game by the thin thread that is time limited commendations and adventures.

    I mean, the community has wanted campaigns/adventures for a while now.

    If Rare's holding them like a thread above our heads, it's literally because the community asked for it to be held above us!

  • @el-spaniardchi

    The adventures probably werent the best example.

    But the PP and limited time events, etc. Are the main issue.

    Like I have said 100 times on 100 threads, the PP seems to have taken centre stage and this season we lost more content than we actually gained.

    Eventually, the game will become sea of grinders due to the increased amount of content focused at inexperienced players.

    The only thing that will keep players staying is limited time stuff. This is bad, because it makes players feel they NEED to play as opposed to WANTING to.

    Then because this is the only way to keep people, the game itself will just take a nosedive in quality. Because the only people who will be left are the people with the money.

  • Yeah rare, let's not do this.

  • @ottyman8687 said in Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics:

    @el-spaniardchi

    The adventures probably werent the best example.

    But the PP and limited time events, etc. Are the main issue.

    Like I have said 100 times on 100 threads, the PP seems to have taken centre stage and this season we lost more content than we actually gained.

    True, although to be fair, they won't be taking any major content away from the game again. Arena was a unique beast...

    Eventually, the game will become sea of grinders due to the increased amount of content focused at inexperienced players.

    There definetly was a lot of content focused around new players, but i'll hold my critisim until we get those new PL voyages

    The only thing that will keep players staying is limited time stuff. This is bad, because it makes players feel they NEED to play as opposed to WANTING to.

    Of course! However, nobody would want to play a live service game without having something to flex not only what they did, but how long they've been playing. It is definetly a issue, but i'll again have to wait until the new PL voyages drop before i start ripping into the current state of the game.

    Then because this is the only way to keep people, the game itself will just take a nosedive in quality. Because the only people who will be left are the people with the money.

    It really depends on what you play the game for man. I play it because i like Pirates, the world, the PvPvE nature of the game, but i mainly like collecting cosmetics.

    It's a huge part of the game for me, so i really only have a problem with new player content if it doesn't have a cosmetic attached to it (like the sea fort commendations, those suck!) I guess it really just comes down to personal preferences tbh

  • @el-spaniardchi

    Yeah I'm hyped for the PL voyages. And with a bit of luck they'll encourage some PvPvE stuff and won't be a complete letdown like the Sea-Forts.

    Hoping they'll reward Athen Chests for me to steal!

  • @capthitreg said in Suggestion - Re-introducing Season Cosmetics:

    Yeah rare, let's not do this.

    So...how do you want them to be re-introduced since Rare hasn't provided a how yet?

    I imagine they're interested in any and all ideas 14 months later...I'm interested in seeing ideas too because I love speculation 🙂

  • @withmyapologies I don't use the PL curse not because of the chest symbol, but rather because I don't like how the eyes still glow THROUGH the eyelids even when they're closed.

    It's just downright creepy-looking. 😣

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