We need more stats on our profiles

  • Guilleont
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    Ahoy mateys! Finally we can see our progress in game on the web, alongside with some stats like distance sailed, ships sunk, etc. which is a great improvement we've been asking for a long time.

    However this game we love and played for more than 2 years, has a lot of stats tracked in-game that are not included in our profiles, and I would love to check as well.

    These are the next (the less important are in italics):

    -Total gold earned.
    -Total doubloons earned.
    -Total stolen loot cashed in.
    -Total GH loot cashed in (not just chests).
    -OOS loot cashed in.
    -Merchant loot cashed in.
    -Animals delivered.
    -Loot cashed in to Reaper's Bones.
    -Emissary flags chased in.
    -Fishes cashed in.
    -Forts, Fleets, FH and Ashen Lords defeated.
    -FOTD finished.
    -Skeleton ships sunk.
    -Athena chests cashed in.
    -Stolen Athena chests.
    -Arena games finished.
    -Arena games won.

    Do you want to see this as well? :D Leave your comments!

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  • WolfManbush
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    What I would like to see most is ancient skelly spawns/kills and total coins earned/won

    in general the more personal stats the better other than easy to farm pvp stuff like player kills

  • ClosingHare208
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    @guilleont said in We need more stats on our profiles:

    Ahoy mateys! Finally we can see our progress in game on the web, alongside with some stats like distance sailed, ships sunk, etc. which is a great improvement we've been asking for a long time.

    However this game we love and played for more than 2 years, has a lot of stats tracked in-game that are not included in our profiles, and I would love to check as well.

    These are the next (the less important are in italics):

    -Total gold earned.
    -Total doubloons earned.
    -Total stolen loot cashed in.
    -Total GH loot cashed in (not just chests).
    -OOS loot cashed in.
    -Merchant loot cashed in.
    -Animals delivered.
    -Loot cashed in to Reaper's Bones.
    -Emmisary flags chased in.
    -Fishes cashed in.
    -Forts, Fleets, FH and Ashen Lords defeated.
    -FOTD finished.
    -Skeleton ships sunk.
    -Athena chests cashed in.
    -Stolen Athena chests.
    -Arena games finished.
    -Arena games won.

    Do you want to see this as well? :D Leave your comments!

    i'd be fine with it

  • Guilleont
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    @wolfmanbush dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    What I would like to see most is ancient skelly spawns/kills and total coins earned/won

    in general the more personal stats the better other than easy to farm pvp stuff like player kills

    That's a good one. At least Ancient Skeleton spawns would be cool. I also think such stats like players killed would be negative because will motivate certain players to have a toxic behaviour just to increase their numbers.

  • Galactic Geek
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    What I would like to see are pirates that no longer care about:

    1. Grinding
    2. Numbers
    3. Being the best
    4. Gloating
    5. Believing they're better than others because of numbers when their attitude proves otherwise.

    I also would like to see more pirates that do care about:

    1. Having fun!
    2. Meeting new friends!
    3. Going on an Adventure!
    4. Creating memories!
    5. Sharing their experiences!
  • BurnBacon
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    Some of these can be seen by achievements and commendations. Even LFG posts can view them.

  • Guilleont
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    @galactic-geek dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    What I would like to see are pirates that no longer care about:

    1. Grinding
    2. Numbers
    3. Being the best
    4. Gloating
    5. Believing they're better than others because of numbers when their attitude proves otherwise.

    I also would like to see more pirates that do care about:

    1. Having fun!
    2. Meeting new friends!
    3. Going on an Adventure!
    4. Creating memories!
    5. Sharing their experiences!

    You are such a romantic pirate!! Yes, you are right, I think most people play the game to have fun. But after two years playing it for so long, I like to see how much time of my life I wasted playing it hahaha.

    Of course there'll always be people that play more for the numbers than for the fun. This won't change that. Just open the Athena ledger of this month and look for the best emissary... 18 millions... seriously? Some people have no life...

  • Galactic Geek
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    @guilleont Hmm. Never been called a romantic pirate before...

    How endearing! 🤗

  • Golden Robot 75
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    I think this would be a great idea, as long as they don’t do these 2 things. 1: giving rewards for these stats, and 2: letting other players see them. I think this would stop some amount of the grinding and gloating that people are worried about because people wouldn’t get anything from grinding these stats, and there would be no verifiable way for them to gloat about it.

  • FlQyD
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    I would love to see more stats, but not from only just the grind site, I would be happy, if I can see, how many ship did I sunk, how many other player dead because of my sword ect...

  • Guilleont
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    @flqyd dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    I would love to see more stats, but not from only just the grind site, I would be happy, if I can see, how many ship did I sunk, how many other player dead because of my sword ect...

    Mate... you can see how many ships you have sunk already... That's why it's not on the list above.

  • BBO0GY
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    Honestly I think this is a great Idea! I can’t believe I never thought of making this suggestion.

  • Mystic Nefro
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    @Guilleont I think you just wanna see how much has the great Salvatore Prime achieved on his journeys.

  • Guilleont
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    @flqyd dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    I would love to see more stats, but not from only just the grind site, I would be happy, if I can see, how many ship did I sunk, how many other player dead because of my sword ect...

    The stats should remain the same way: only visible throught your personal profile, but right now we have just a few.

    @mystic-nefro dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    @Guilleont I think you just wanna see how much has the great Salvatore Prime achieved on his journeys.

    Hahaha, Salvatore is going to appear in the next Tall Tales, he is indeed the skeleton that put a curse on FH junior. Mike Chapman told me.

  • StaringPlace970
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    @galactic-geek honestly I did not think someone could disagree with this. How does us being able to see cool stats negatively affect you lol. No hate btw

  • StaringPlace970
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    @guilleont I think player kill would be cool to see. People are gonna spawncamp regardless of if they can see how many kills they have or not.

  • ELiXiR ERROR
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    We need playtime

  • Guilleont
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    @staringplace970 dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    @galactic-geek honestly I did not think someone could disagree with this. How does us being able to see cool stats negatively affect you lol. No hate btw

    I agree with you. I think grinding players won't be affected as they've always been worried about the numbers anyway. Same with toxic players... they will keep being fools.

    But maybe stats of players killed is going too far, as you can easily spawn camp a sloop to get good numbers... a bit silly imo.

    @pho3n1x-down dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    We need playtime

    If you play on Steam, you will know. Maybe this is the only stat I don't know if I want to know... LOL. It scares me.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @staringplace970 said in We need more stats on our profiles:

    @galactic-geek honestly I did not think someone could disagree with this. How does us being able to see cool stats negatively affect you lol. No hate btw

    Okay, let's say that some of the stats include ships sunk or pirates killed. Even though the stat is relatively meaningless, it's not harmless - there are still those pirates who would try to increase their stats in order to gloat, or in a vain and pointless attempt at being the best. This in turn increases the likelihood that pirates overall will attack you, sink you, and kill you - rather than avoid you, open up a dialogue, or form an alliance. It incentivizes negative social interactions, which is a win/lose situation. If you or I are on the lose side of the situation, then that's how it affects us.

  • HerrDave3849
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    @guilleont

    HerrDave's stats

    • Number of times fired self out of a cannon: 337
    • Number of times hit what I was aiming at: Like maybe once
    • Current 'tude: "Worth it."
  • StaringPlace970
    Ship Mate

    @galactic-geek I see battles as positive interactions, not not negative ones. And people are gonna spawncamp and sink you regardless of if you can see stats or not. People typically just do that for fun. Not every ship you see should be an alliance and that is how it should be. The ships sunk stat exists and I have never once met anyone who fights people just to up the number.

  • Guilleont
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    @galactic-geek dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    Okay, let's say that some of the stats include ships sunk or pirates killed... This in turn increases the likelihood that pirates overall will attack you, sink you, and kill you - rather than avoid you, open up a dialogue, or form an alliance. It incentivizes negative social interactions, which is a win/lose situation. If you or I are on the lose side of the situation, then that's how it affects us.

    Matey, assuming that being friendly is the way to go every time you came across another crew is wrong to me. I love PVP and I always try to fight and sink other ships, unless they are very new players, I'm tired or solo against really skilled pirates, so these stats won't change anything at all.

    Why PVP should be negative? I've made a lot of mates from rival crews on Arena. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, it's a game and lost is just a part of it. Just that. It's not like it affects your real life.

    I agree that the stats shouldn't be rewarded, their only purpose is only for fun and be aware of your progress/time spend in the game.

    PVE players will still grind and spawn campers will still camp...

  • Guilleont
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    @herrdave3849 dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    • Number of times fired self out of a cannon: 337
    • Number of times hit what I was aiming at: Like maybe once

    LoL hahaha.

  • Rakan le rouge
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    Can someone explain me since when we have an updated profile page ?
    I didn't see any devs announcement about that.
    Anyway that's awesome !

  • Galactic Geek
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    @guilleont said in We need more stats on our profiles:

    @galactic-geek dijo en We need more stats on our profiles:

    Okay, let's say that some of the stats include ships sunk or pirates killed... This in turn increases the likelihood that pirates overall will attack you, sink you, and kill you - rather than avoid you, open up a dialogue, or form an alliance. It incentivizes negative social interactions, which is a win/lose situation. If you or I are on the lose side of the situation, then that's how it affects us.

    Matey, assuming that being friendly is the way to go every time you came across another crew is wrong to me. I love PVP and I always try to fight and sink other ships, unless they are very new players, I'm tired or solo against really skilled pirates, so these stats won't change anything at all.

    Why PVP should be negative? I've made a lot of mates from rival crews on Arena. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, it's a game and lost is just a part of it. Just that. It's not like it affects your real life.

    I agree that the stats shouldn't be rewarded, their only purpose is only for fun and be aware of your progress/time spend in the game.

    PVE players will still grind and spawn campers will still camp...

    Earlier today, I was sailing with a new friend. She spotted a sloop freshly spawned at an outpost and told me she was going to say hi. She did, but not before raising his anchor and lowering his sails. She repeatedly killed him, and laughed about it. Eventually, her victim scuttled and left the game.

    It's things like this that I hate - how can you enjoy a game if you can't even get it started? There was no reason for her to do what she did, other than her own personal satisfaction. There was no loot or good supplies, or anything. She could have waited to attack him later when he had more of both. Instead, she forced him to quit, and in all likelihood, could have cost us a new member of the community if he was indeed a new pirate. The point is, we may never know.

    As far as it not affecting us in real life, it most assuredly can - it can change our mood negatively, especially if we were seeking a chance to accomplish something, relax, or just have fun. Being denied of even having the chance to do that is just a waste of time, and can lead to overly emotional individuals lashing out, sometimes even at those around them. I should know - I have done it myself on occasion. Just look at how impassioned sports fans can get - same idea. It's probably better not to release the beast within. 😅

  • Guilleont
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    @galactic-geek what a loong story matey.

    This game is frustrating sometimes. I won't deny so. Yet, it's just a game. If you feel frustrated, turn off your PC/console and move on... it could affects your mood for a few minutes, but your RL keeps going the same.

    Players who enjoy the game will recover and play back, learning from this situations. I know is a hard world for newies players... but stats won't change nothing at all. We all have been there haha. I remember my first time I was able to kill a whole galleon solo... I was pretty bad at PVP.

    I'm just glad that most of you like the idea of having more stats to track our efficacy as pirates.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @guilleont You're talking to a veteran of video games here with well over 30+ years of video gaming experience and 800+ video game titles currently under his belt - not to mention numerous competition placements and leaderboard standings. Do you really think that I don't know that? Of course I know I can quit at any time, and I often do. After all, I still have to eat, sleep, answer the call of nature, work, provide for my family, etc. This isn't about that, though.

    Stats have been around since the dawn of video games. Even Pong and Frogger had high scores. That's why most agree with having stats - it's, quite simply, what they're accustomed to.

    However, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be a change. Stats and scores have always promoted competition, and with competition comes rivalries, anger, and even hate.

    To be clear, I'm not against stats. I think that they can be good! But I also think that they should be kept to an absolute necessary minimum. For example, keeping track of the score in a sports video game, or for the developers to track metrics.

    Everything else though? It needs to go, IMO. We don't need leaderboards, or really to know who has eaten the most pomegranates, for example. Why don't we need them? For 2 reasons. 1 - in the grand scheme of things, nobody really cares. Sure, you may have done some great thing, but to almost everyone else, it's just a "yeah, that's cool" kind of reaction and that's about it, at best. Most just won't care, probably because they're just trying so hard to leave their own meaningless mark to arrogantly and foolishly show off and be proud of - "look at me! I threw the most blunderbombs! At nothing!" It's an exercise in mediocrity without substance.

    Video games as a whole need to prioritize the reason why they were created in the 1st place...

    Fun.

    ...not competition. With less focus on stats and being the best, gamers can enjoy themselves in the moment, and grow memories of having a fantastic time without having someone else rub it in by self-proclaiming, "I'm better than you! My stats prove it!" When again, their attitude clearly proves otherwise. Without stats, less is placed upon being the best - you'll be more likely to get those "good game!" kind of comments. And really, isn't that what we all deserve to have?

    ...a good game.

  • Guilleont
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    @galactic-geek Yo matey... you sure like to write... hahaha.

    Well, as I said before, competidor players will still be competidor, no matter the stats. If there's none, they will use their own. Spawn campers'll keep spawn camping, and so on.

    It's not about the stats, it's about the players mindset.

    Yes, I don't care about how many pomegranates I've eaten or such stats. But I want to know how many fishes I've sold or how many forts I've complete during two years just to get an idea of how long I've been sailing around (having no life haha).

  • Galactic Geek
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    @guilleont While I absolutely enjoy gaming, I don't see that really as a point of pride, and really, neither should you. Even the connotation of how you said it shows that you agree with me to some degree.

    just to get an idea of how long I've been sailing around (having no life haha).

    This is NOT a point of pride, nor should it be.

    Every time I see my stats in Rocket League (47+ IRL days played), I'm reminded of how much of that time probably could have been spent doing more important things - like spending more time with family.

    Games are designed to be fun, but we are creatures of habit and are thus moths drawn to a flame. Don't let baseless stats consume you.

  • Guilleont
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    @galactic-geek yes. We agree in some terms, I forgot to said that.

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