Arena Alternative

  • Stundorn
    Castaway
    Insider
    Founder

    I dislike Arena and want to suggest a more sandbox like and pvp orientated mode.

    You spawn with the Ship and Crew you like, all Ships are allowed.
    You can even try to solo it.

    The whole Map is active and you spawn at an outpost exept Morrows Peak. All Ships have Reapers Flag hoisted, so you allways know where all the Ships are, but dont know what kind of Ship like it is today.
    You can buy all kind of journeys and you can do all PvE like in Adventure, but you can only hand in at the Seadogs Tavern in the middle of the Map and when you are the last ship on the Server.
    The Shroud will shrink like a BR circle does, so there is no hide an run forever. At the end all Ships come closer and closer to the Sea Dog tavern and only the last Ship can hand in the loot they could get during the session.
    All Encouters active, you can be unlucky and get the Kraken, a Meg and a Skalleone at the end and although you are the better players you can have bad luck. Its still the Sea of Thieves and unpredicatble.
    You need not do any PvE, you can just camp the Tavern, but to hand in you need a floating Ship, oh and no respawn of Ships of course, you sunk, you are done here and can try on another Server in another session.

    Flaws? for sure, its a rough idea.
    Like it, comment it, hate it all fine :)

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  • mistyXY
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    Arena needs to be deleted and recreated from scratch because they mad it boring

  • Little Squash
    Commander
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    @bugaboo-bill
    I don't think a shrinking map would work well with crews trying to get voyages done that require them to go to specific islands that may or may not be available.

    Perhaps, just start every ship with a bunch of loot (similar to how the skeleton ships already have loot on them). But you can only turn it in if you are the last ship floating. And you wouldn't need the entire map to start with.

    Arena definitely needs some variety... Last man/ship standing, Capture the flag/skull, King of the hill/fort, Oddball/skull... Any of these could be easily implemented and would make Arena so much better.

  • Stundorn
    Castaway
    Insider
    Founder

    @little-squash

    Maybe we don't need the shrinking circle when all ships have a Reaper Flag hoisted.
    Then you can go for the last one because they cant hide if they dont want to fight.

    The problem i have with Arena is the back and forth in a small Area and the very less motivating way to get points and such. That kind of a rush in a small area is completely not my thing. I want Adventure Style with sandbox PvP and all ships "forced" to PvP at the end to get their booty selled.

    I want the full map and a contest for loot here!
    The idea of the shrinking Shroud BR circle was to prevent "griefers" to spoil the gamemode and knowingly dont partake flee all the time so you cannot win the competition.

    But you can aproach it like a challenge.
    But think of beeing a successfull sloop crew and one solo griefer in a brigantine not partaking in PvP running forever preventing you to win!?

  • Stundorn
    Castaway
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    Founder

    @justincase2004 sagte in Arena Alternative:

    Arena needs to be deleted and recreated from scratch because they mad it boring

    It's an alternative but i wholeheartedly agree i was against Arena from scratch, because i'm a sandbox PvP'er and no Arena PvP'er.
    I like the mix of pve and pvp, but not in a small Area going back and forth only.

    What i'd like to see is to implement the Sea Dogs in Adventure.
    Hoist Reaper Flag, buy all kind of journeys at the Tavern and do them as a Reaper Version, kill pirates on your way and unlock the cosmetics tied to sea dogs. So if you have killed 200 pirates with EOR/Blunder/Cutlass/ flintlock on these Reaper journeys you get the cosmetics tied to that.
    Dont know what needs to get this and that, but i know there is stuff like this.
    Sink 100 Ships on Reaper journeys to finish the Sea Dog Ship livery and such....

  • NeedSmokes
    Commander

    @bugaboo-bill

    Next month marks the 1 year anniversary for The Arena.
    I'm not an insider, so i have no idea at all if they are actually working on changing the current meta of the mode or anything. But i would expect some kind of big upgrade to arrive after 1 whole year of being a very, very stupid mode of play..
    The Arena is only entertaining if certain crews can be placed into the same lobby beforehand to have a good experience, almost any other time it is just mostly a pathetic mode of play.. It doesn't work! Bad ideas and bad planning from Rare has seen to this.

    Everyone is equal -- Blah Blah Blah!! Well, in the arena this equality doesn't work.. What is the point in a random ship of newish players being put against a well organised crew? It's a slaughter and no fun for lesser players/teams and they are less likely to play much more of this mode.. We need to be able to choose a server to enter for this mode to ever be exciting or even fair.
    Something certainly has to change!

    The Arena is a failure. Mainly because it has been badly designed as a PVP mode.
    I'm not sure what they wanted from it, but it hasn't worked, and needs either removing or completely over hauling to entice numbers to play it..

    Will we see changes on it's anniversary? I am unsure, and doubtful.

  • Stundorn
    Castaway
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    Founder

    @needsmokes

    i dont think they will do anything about it.
    This would be an alternative i'd like to play or i can imagine its fun to play.
    I completely agree with what you wrote.
    If i had a free wish i'd delete Arena entirely and implement the Sea Dog Stuff into Adventure mode like i said

    What i'd like to see is to implement the Sea Dogs in Adventure.

    Hoist Reaper Flag, buy all kind of journeys at the Tavern and do them as a Reaper Version, kill pirates on your way and unlock the cosmetics tied to sea dogs. So if you have killed 200 pirates with EOR/Blunder/Cutlass/ flintlock on these Reaper journeys you get the cosmetics tied to that.

    Dont know what needs to get this and that, but i know there is stuff like this.

    Sink 100 Ships on Reaper journeys to finish the Sea Dog Ship livery and such....

  • NeedSmokes
    Commander

    @bugaboo-bill

    Yup, I know when they had interviews with the arena devs they stated that they didn't want to go down the BR route of gameplay and wanted their own Rare take on it.
    But it's clear its not been successful, and the only reason many played it to begin with was to unlock cosmetics and achievements, and once those were achieved or "cheesed" as many were, players took a step back from it.
    There is a reason the BR style of gameplay is popular with gamers at the moment, you can't always reinvent the wheel.

  • GUNNER646
    Commander
    Insider

    Looking for flaws?
    Yeah... It's a battle royale.
    No. Rare is not a bandwagon and the battle royale phase is far over.
    Arena needs something special. Not a TDM. Not a battle royale.
    Rare has so many cool Avenues they could take with the pirate style. And these ideas are Already over saturated in other games. We need unique arena matches not repainted money making tactics.

  • Stundorn
    Castaway
    Insider
    Founder

    @needsmokes sagte in Arena Alternative:

    @bugaboo-bill

    Yup, I know when they had interviews with the arena devs they stated that they didn't want to go down the BR route of gameplay and wanted their own Rare take on it.
    But it's clear its not been successful, and the only reason many played it to begin with was to unlock cosmetics and achievements, and once those were achieved or "cheesed" as many were, players took a step back from it.
    There is a reason the BR style of gameplay is popular with gamers at the moment, you can't always reinvent the wheel.

    just to say i dislike BR Games :P
    But if ever i would like a sandbox pvp mode - and to prevent griefing with a BR mechanic - more.

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