@magus104 Or save yourself 50k Doubloons and pull your sail up an inch?
Doubloon Currency - Developer Update
Finally, they bring old cosmetics back. Thank Hitbo for forcing this idea. Keep in mind that all of these cosmetics are just just a small reward for playing the game. The game will see a lot of fresh bloods sinking thousand of hours, farming for blue coins. It is a way better than gatekeeping these items for 1% of veterans who don't actually play the game nowadays.
Ya hated quick swap back, everybody plays double gun now.
Ya hated 110 fov update, everybody plays with 110 fov now.This forum is infected with haters and complainers...
@safer-seaser Yeeeeah....it was all down to them đ
Also, stating that "everyone" does something is a bold choice, considering it is provably false.
So far.
- Players upset they are loosing the doubloons (worked hard to gather) but letâs face it. Nobody here worked hard for them/free season pass.
- Players happy to have a place to spend there doubloons. But only after the reset, thus back to the grind?
- Some happy to see old stuff coming back
- others unhappy to see old stuff coming back.
Canât figure out where everyone is leaning. Yes or No. Bottom line. Itâs good to have a place to spend those coins, sad to see our collection of non usable coins go away.
And what every funny, itâs gonna happen regardless, within next few months weâre gonna be arguing about something new and this topic will be forgotten. Because will have found ways to get those DB easy and quick.@look-behind-you When you call all gas no breaks that little curl up matters! Lol. Or we have the illusion it does. I had been on crews back when I actually played with others and on galleons that would get upset if you curled up the sails even the smallest amount. Most of us paid the gold for the advantage. And it was a significant amount of gold at the time. We didn't buy those sails for the looks (though their not terrible) but the real value was in the visibility. And that was taken from us just like the doubloons are about to be. Changed an expensive cosmetic and didn't even offer as much as a "Sorry our bad" was more them just laughing and mocking those who used the DA sails so they could finally stop seeing the seas flooded with them. It would be like changing emporium cosmetics after people had already purchased them. In the very least offer a refund. Though I want to be able to sell back 90% of my cosmetics at this point. We've been waiting since year 1 to be able to save out clothing cosmetic sets. Instead the solution was just to slap a costume over whatever we are wearing cause it's easier and 1 click. Like I would sell all my unwanted cosmetics back to the vendor at 0 gold each just to clean up my chests from my flawed logic year 1 "They aren't adding new gold shop cosmetics and there's not much to do out on the seas so my end game will be collect every single cosmetic"
We need Rare to be honest about what this reset REALLY is... They have done this time and time again. Even with the introduction of doubloons. As I stated before they gave us more than we needed to buy the early FOMO items on our bi-weekly bilge rat adventures. I don't know the reasoning behind this but it started this whole problem. After a few months people started to have enough doubloons to buy the cosmetics without having to do the events. That's not good for game health so now lets tie the cosmetics to commendation unlocks. Now they have to at least do the content 1 time to get the cosmetics!!! Make them EARN it.
Now they are bringing back the old FOMO bilge rat cosmetics and going to make them cost lots of doubloons... Uh oh... Problem. Everyone HAS lots of doubloons. Wait so they can just buy everything?!?!?!?! Can't have that!!! They need to EARN the old FOMO just like people had to do back in the day! Hmmmm how do we fix this? I know..... Lets delete everyones doubloons so now they have to regrind doubloons for the new items. If this is the actual reason... Which with these developers track record I think it's fair to say we have seen enough changes that have been done to kinda grasp how they think... Just add a 3rd currency then. Bring back silver and make the new cosmetics cost silver, at least i think it was silver? The pointless "currency" that was more used as a point system to determine who won arena matches. Add a high conversion rate of doubloons to silver in case some people want to cash in and buy some of those cosmetics early. Turn off doubloons as a reward from everything so eventually people will run out then they can retire the currency. Or just delete doubloons like I've been suggesting for years. Make doubloon items cost a large amount of gold. So now the doubloon problem AND the gold problem are solved at the same time.
Basically this decision doesn't at all account for the fact that plays are human beings. They are going to have feelings about having their hardwork and grind just straight up deleted just for the sake of not being able to buy all the newly added cosmetics. Though from the sounds of it most of its just going to be old stuff year 1 players already have anyway. I'm kind of posting a lot when I'm really not as concerned about the doubloons themselves as much as the principle of the matter and how this isn't the first time a decision similar to this has happened, ignoring players progression and time spent. When we choose to play a game part of us gets invested. When that time investment is negated it hurts. I don't remember how many thousands of hours I had in the game when captaincy released but it cut deep having it show 0's across the board like I had never played the game before. I hadn't hit 100% achievements at that point but I would imagine I was near 85-90%. It just hurt to have all these cosmetics locked behind content I swore I would never touch again. Though that was the evil dastardly plan... Credit where it's do I guess cause I am one of those foolish enough to go redo it all of it. So it revitalized all the old content even if it felt gross having to do it.
Anyway this is another one of those changes their mind is made up. They don't care what we have to say. I'm sure maybe in some minor way they can sympathize but they think this flawed decision is whats best for game health so its happening. Period. Even if they are wrong (and they 100% are) Get back to me in a year or 2 when everyones doubloon purses have swelled again... Or worse the gold problem never gets resolved so we decide to delete that next.
@burnbacon I imagine you never did the whole convert doubloons to gold thing. And I don't think you've ever taken an extended break from the game, or maybe you have? But you are always here... So I imagine you have never had the problem. Having literally drained all my doubloons because it seemed they abandoned the currency since FOMO stuff was now just auto unlocked on completion of commendation etc. Then I was playing like 3 other games with seasonal resets when Rare announced theirs. I refused to even considering giving seasons a chance in this game as so many other games were too all consuming with their seasons. How many games hamster wheels can you be on at once? I do regret not giving Rares seasons a chance because honestly they are the easiest to complete out of any other game I've played. They were really reasonable with it. Not sure if the early seasons were a bit tougher but even if they were with how I play it would only be a week or 2 to complete it all. But coming back after they had actually added new doubloon items. Not having any doubloons to spend. It actually was work to save up for cosmetics. When I decided to try and quit Sea of Thieves back then the amount of self control it took... I thought "If I finally miss out on some FOMO cosmetics then I will feel awful about it and never want to return"... But then I quit World of Warcraft... Best or worst decision of my life? I dunno... But to fill the void I came back to Sea of Thieves. Forgot how much I loved the game and the world even though my play style clashes with their design philosophies. I am an anti social PvEr. 18 years of WoW and made maybe 1 friend. Never made a single one in this game. The 1 WoW friend is who actually got me into this game so his 2 friends played with us on a galleon. I got along with them but we didn't become friends more acquaintances. Anyway point being season 1 cosmetics weren't super impressive but 2 and 3 the ferryman figure head and ghost hull and witches makeup were insanely cool... It was so tempting to log in and grind for those.
So when those items were added back they cost 3000 doubloons each. That is a hefty amount to grind to from 0. Now I will admit I only play a few days per season maybe a week at most. But it took multiple seasons to grind up enough to buy both. But we're going for full circle FOMO again now. Finally add doubloon stuff but delete doubloons so we have to earn them again, can't add free cosmetics. Trying to get people to log in more often so back to drip feeding content updates IE year 1's bi-weekly release which they couldn't maintain so went to monthly release. Now trying to add weekend events as well. Hey man... After all these changes that chart is going to look amazing. No long one giant spike at the start of a season with a rapid fall off but now we can see smaller weekly spikes!
Most of the people unhappy to see old stuff come back would be the insane minority consider those of us year 1 players have always been the minority. This game has always had a large revolving door of a player base. Being free on gamepass means anyone at anytime can just install it and check it out. Then the ports have brought in new people. But the mass majority even at the end of year 1 had already missed out on loads of FOMO cosmetics that for some weird reason people feel like is some kinda trophy. Just like the doubloons you claim we don't earn we just passively gain. Sure. Well we passively gain gold too. We passively gain commendations and achievements... Hmm everything, everywhere all at once is just passive gains. Year 1 players didn't work hard for their cosmetics either. They just played the game. But they were there. Bragging rights. I played early when YOU couldn't cause you're a playstation fan not an xbox fan! You don't deserve our FOMO!!! This player base has always had this weird mindset about the FOMO cosmetics early on. Just like in arena. I would love to see the % of people who actually did the get 1st place 240 times as a pirate legend commendation, and how many of them still play. But even back then "We are going to lower the commendation to 1st place 100 times to match the achievement, as compensation for those who got the 240 wins we will offer a unique blunderbus skin" maybe 15 people were very vocal about "No I earned it when it was hard, I would rather gate keep others from getting the 240 commendation because they don't like arena and its too daunting a goal than get a special unique cosmetic no one else can get" Though that example brings up a very interesting point very much related to this exact situation... There have been a handful of times Rare has caved to the pressures of people wanting to keep their precious FOMO cosmetics. They did it again with the returning seasonal cosmetics. People were in an uproar about the idea that stuff would just be added into a shop. "But I earned my cosmetic!!!" As you keep stating.... All seasonal rewards aren't earned. You gain them passively just playing the game during the season. But rare listened and decided to keep specific cosmetics out of the returning pool. So they were respecting players past "time investments/accomplishments" in those instances. But then when it comes to this currency? Your time means nothing.
@magus104 A little curl doesn't actually matter massively, especially when in combat. Unless folks are 'full sail gamers'.
If anything, not 'full sailing' is advantageous due to increased mobility/turning.....and if the opposing ship is directly in front of you in that small gap there are likely bigger issues about to happen! đ(although...ram strat....).
'Paying' for an advantage rather than for the looks is also the reason they were revised, though other Pirates' opinions and tastes may vary.
Selling back cosmetics (at a reduced rate obviously...because they are 'slightly used' ...one careful owner etc đ ) I agree would be a pretty nice addition, as well as saving outfit pre-sets.
Back to Doubloons, from what Drew mentioned in the recent video, current items that are priced in Doubloons will head to the Outpost Gold shops.
The reworking of Doubloons and the resurrection of the 'Black Market', to me, sounds like a good thing. Doubloons have been just a number that goes up occasionally, that I have no need for for a while.
I 100% get that some Pirates are attached to them and seeing them go up is fun, but if there is nothing to spend them on, then why have them? 'Progress' or 'time' is not lost or erased, as a lot of the time Doubloons were passively earned rather than sought out and 'farmed'. Doesn't remove the fact that 'you were there when....'.
Hello,
Not sure I like the limited-time cosmetics for people who were hoarding loads of doubloons. I have a friend that plays since the beggining of this game and exchange all his doubloons for Gold everytime he earns them since he has nothing else to do with it. He now probably won't have enough for these cosmetics, please announce the prices early so that people can farm for it before the reset !
Have a nice day,
I hope that'll be a great choice. On paper it's perfect but I'm just curious about your implementation, which wasn't the best in past 3 seasons (season 16 was bad even conceptually in my opinion) I hope you'll be doing those temporary events so we can get those doubloons.
Also I saw that all items for doubloons will be converted to gold value. Does this mean all those seasonal items will be as well or that includes stuff like wild rose set, and other cheap stuff?@look-behind-you well, he made a stretch, but he's also right. People complain about a lot of things no matter whether changes are made for the better or worse. I've been playing this game for almost 6 years and don't mind any of that cosmetic coming back. And as they said, they won't be returning full old sets, only a fraction of them. We'll see whether it'll be true in a long run though
@look-behind-you
Consider that time spent sailing can be counted but you don't know how much of that is 'productive', whereas with the doubloons you have a measurable metric to compare every now and then to benchmark your actual involvement in the game.Its not just fun, its also a way to show how much time I have actually spent doing things
Furthermore, there isnt a snowballs chance in the roar that this new black market outpaces the old one (the glacial place that items were added being the reason it was discontinued to begin with). I'm ok with not gettinf a full clothing set and ship set and weapons/equipment every update, but when you start taking things from me to then drip feed minute amount of cosmetics to get that is when I get frustrated.
For the last several seasons, I've found that I have to force myself to play SoT to compete the Season list, as I find that I'm more excited to pay other games.
Thank you for confirming that you'd also like me to play other games more often, rather than waste time with the new "rules not tools" Sea of Thieves.
So people who "did stuff" in the game to earn Doubloons to be used to purchase cosmetics can buy new additions using them? That does nothing to devalue those items to newer players ALSO "doing stuff" in the game to earn the Doubloons. SMH...
FOMO engagement is the sole reason for this disrespectful reset of multi-year player progress.
It's simply to prevent older players from spending their saved up doubloons on the new items, instead of grinding them out in new FOMO events.
If it weren't for the respect I have for my guildmates, I'd uninstall the game immediately.
The day guilds were released I swore I'd get us to Lv1000, and intend to uphold that.However I won't bother actively grinding anything else after this BS. There's no telling what Rare will reset next. Gold seems likely.
They might even decide to wipe currencies at the end of each season in an attempt to keep players on the treadmill.Absolutely disgraceful.
Why not just remove doubloons entirely so the game is only focused on gold moving forward? Do we really need another currency? Obviously award the limited doubloon cosmetics as intended but use lifetime doubloon count instead that way players that spent them don't feel cheated.
Then when bringing back future time limited cosmetics which used to be the function of the black market, you just give them an exorbitant gold price much like the DA set.
Move to keep those and all future previous time limited skins in the game to give people something to eat down their gold and work towards. Also regularly update the game with super expensive cosmetics like the DA set to function as a gold sink.
Turning dubs into gold, will only inflate gold and make it more worthless, not less.
Wiping accounts is only ever going to cause upset because of the blatant disrespect to player time investment.Remember the path to hell is paved with good intention...
No respect for the collectors of the community.
I've spent the last 3 years of my gaming time dedicated to sea of thieves I've completed every event small or big even if the rewards were not the best, I've completed 90% of bilge rats, gotten all ledger rewards, working on hour glass but that's besides the point. I see myself and many other players like me also see themselves as very dedicated players, i do not find it fair just cause the doubloon currency got out of hand that us collectors and 100 percenters wont be able to get our hands on most of these commemorative items just cause we were the people to spend doubloons on items we missed out on threw earlier seasons. ive had more than 30k doubloons and if i knew that one day there would be a whole currency reset i would have just been saving like many others here who also regret spending doubloons. either make it to where it is possible to grind out doubloons to get every item before the reset or price these items somewhat affordable cause at the end of the day its not the players fault for how much doubloons got out of hand and i don't think us collectors deserve to get FOMO for it
@Sonicbob Can u tell me how many hours that i should pass just to convert my 125k doublons into gold ?
Cause i've tried with my fresh pirate who got only 16k doublons... and i've passed close to 1 hour...
There'll be a feature to convert quicker the doublons to gold ?And i'm still angry on this Reset... Where is the respect of our timeplay ?
As there is a Community Weekend this week ,i'll will have a great sunday not by playing at the game , but just for converting them ... (I won't wait , cause with x2.5 bonus, at least i'll get more gold)
Your 'Exclusive' and 'Commemorative' item which won't interess me ... cause I'll do like Rare is doing for us... No respect , so i got no respect for your skins and title...
Or at least 125k doublons for a Shrouded ghost , it's fair ? not maybe for u , but for me it is , cause i'll get closer to the 5th one , and at least i'll could finish my commendation and LEAVE definitively this Game.If i'm right , Old skins from other season & Years will be in this black market... So , if i have all items from day 1 to now... I won't spend my doublons to buy skins that i've already got , so i'll farm doublons for what ?
Reseting in not the solution , cause tryharder , completionist will have in few months more doublons that we can spend them.
A casual will have the same trouble if he started to play since 2025 , he'll need to catch all skins (if the skin will interess players) so how they'll able to grind doublons ?@lukitch59 said in Doubloon Currency - Developer Update:
@Sonicbob Can u tell me how many hours that i should pass just to convert my 125k doublons into gold ?
Cause i've tried with my fresh pirate who got only 16k doublons... and i've passed close to 1 hour...
There'll be a feature to convert quicker the doublons to gold ?From the OP:
While players could choose to convert these to gold via Larinna's store manually, at the time of the big reset, we will ensure that any remaining Doubloons found on playersâ accounts are fully converted over to gold automatically.
@lem0n-curry
I know that It will be converted automatically , but why I should wait to the automatic convert while i could get x2.5gold during a community weekend ?@magus104 I can't wait until they drop the prices for the new items though, cause I'm assuming this is going to be the only gold and glory weekend until season 19 when they actually remove them. Also I get your point about gold being useless, I also agree but I want to get the most out of my doubloons as possible after holding onto them for so long. I don't like the idea of Rare just taking them away, so me converting them for the highest price possible makes the sting hurt less. Also I doubt the new items are gonna be that ridiculously expensive. Most expensive doubloon item in shops ever was 3000 doubloons. I know they said these items are gonna be expensive but expensive is so relative, is 3000 expensive for someone new to the game who barely has 5000? Sure. But is it expensive for a long time player with tens of thousands of doubloons? No, not at all.
So I doubt the most expensive of these new items are gonna be even over 10k, cause if they made them any higher than they'd be isolating the vast majority of their player base and targeting only the 0.01% of people who actually do have the tens of thousands of doubloons, which would be completely unfair to 99.9% of the player base. Watch these new ''expensive'' items only be a few thousand, I'm calling it. If I just leave myself with 40k I'll be more than safe and I'll still have another 70k to convert during gold and glory for max profit. The real way to solve all of this would be to just make it so gold and glory doesn't effect doubloon transactions or any multiplier, then I wouldn't care, but if they're doing this to make gold feel more valuable then that ship has long set sail.
@lukitch59 said in Doubloon Currency - Developer Update:
@lem0n-curry
I know that It will be converted automatically , but why I should wait to the automatic convert while i could get x2.5gold during a community weekend ?I've been converting 1-2k doubloons to gold in the past (when gold hour and event multiplier both counted mostly) a few times. Why get even more gold now though ? I've got almost 70 million, I assume you have a lot more than that and nothing to spend it on.
I'd rather spend an afternoon doing other things in SoT than go click-crazy with Larinna.Punishing your playerbase for the developers negligence to a currency is still a really bad decision game dev wise. Along with taking in account that people have a lot of dabloons due to the lack of items being added for dabloons and claiming that they're too easy to get due to this is just misleading.
Dabloons are already rare and hard enough to get as is, so cranking down their amount as punishment for developer negligence isnt good.
We appreciate finally having clarity on compensation for these changes, but this really shouldn't be handled in the way it is being handled. And worrying about people just instantly buying new items is just making a issue out of nothing, because what about people with millions of gold when a new free gold set comes to the shop keeps? Should gold also be reset out of fear people can just buy their 3 sets of recolored bigle rats instruments the day the release?
Or the emporium, should ancient coins also get reset in case someone buys the new big bundle the day of release?Point is that this is making a big mess out of something that was never a problem, and a bit of care to the cosmetic additions to the dabloons system would've fixed this ages ago.
There's still time to do this differently. Please make the right decision instead of stripping away people's work.
I have spent 15 000 dobloons 4 days ago on the items i would not normally spent due to rhe video posted and now you posted this.. Is there a way ro revert my purchase and soent it on the newly added items instead? Or wven bettwr, gibe those items to all players who have earned enoughdoibloons though its playtime to really thanks all the veteran players..
Why aren't doubloons being converted to gold?
I've not followed this conversation and don't know all the details. Larinna's store converts doubloons to gold. Why aren't doubloons being converted to gold at the rates in her store? This would seem to be a much better idea than just resetting everyones balance. There has been little I've wanted to buy with doubloons for a long time so I've done this from time to time. If you're smart you do the conversion on a community weekend when the community bonuses apply. The special items complicate this. I don't know how many doubloons to keep for them. I'd have liked more info so I could plan how many to keep. I agree with the other comments that this ie being poorly handled and timed.
From the main post:
Some dedicated players will no doubt have Doubloons remaining after purchasing these commemorative items. While players could choose to convert these to gold via Larinna's store manually, at the time of the big reset, we will ensure that any remaining Doubloons found on playersâ accounts are fully converted over to gold automatically.@eduardoswk said in Doubloon Currency - Developer Update:
I have spent 15 000 dobloons 4 days ago on the items i would not normally spent due to rhe video posted and now you posted this.. Is there a way ro revert my purchase and soent it on the newly added items instead? Or wven bettwr, gibe those items to all players who have earned enoughdoibloons though its playtime to really thanks all the veteran players..
You mean the video where they said
All existing items in the Outpost stores priced in Doubloons will also be converting to gold at this time
and
But for those players with Doubloons in the bank, there'll be a range of time-limited commemorative items available to purchase with your Doubloons before the reset.
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@lem0n-curry
If i need to lose my doubloons , at least if i can have more gold (even if i can't spen them)
at least i could try to have a new challenge , get 1 000 000 000 gold.
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