We need a new, Social Seas

@gigawatgamer

If you have charisma, making friends should be no problem in high seas.

95% of the time if someone is entertaining/likable, my crew won't sink them. The 5% is if they have a flag we want, but even then, we'll let them on our boat and sail with them for a while.

The catch is you have to approach ships, be willing to sink, and be likable/entertaining. Being good at the game is also helpful, people are much friendlier when you've shown them they have no chance of beating you.

I.e. just pass the charisma skill check.

Is the "Social Seas" idea that you're referring to maybe a HUB Spawn location in the world, off the map maybe? Like that hang-out spot in Monster Hunter you can group up and goof off with inbetween missions.. or in this case I suppose diving to a server?

@the-old-soul800

Unless you're playing in Xbox only servers, players can hear you just fine, they just don't care enough about what you're saying to talk to you.

Instead of begging for your life or going "dude what the heck, I'm fRieNdly", or "AlLiAnce?"; try doing something interesting that actually makes people care about you more than your loot.

Sing a song, play an instrument, say something absurd that takes them out of the moment, play a funny character. These are all charismatic things that make people like you.

If you can't be charismatic then learn how to fight, then you can decide how encounters go instead of being at the mercy of others.

@the-old-soul800

The people don't have game chat on, either to hear or be heard; when they talk to their crew you can't hear them, they can't hear you

Again, this only true if you're talking about xbox players.

Anything you can think of for people to do in order to try to have friendly encounters, not only have I done and had not work, but also many other people have done and had not work. No one cares. They just want to kill you. Either to have killed you, or so you aren't nearby anymore.

Idk, either you have terrible luck or just a skill issue. Every sweaty player I know would much rather have an interesting interaction vs an easy sink. Making players sing or sink is a pretty common trend.

Personally on my home stamp I have trouble server wiping/flag stacking. 6/10 ships I roll up to is so defenseless and friendly, I feel guilty sinking them.

Either way, the best way to solve this issue is to improve at combat. Most "kill on sight players" are in the swabbie - mid tier of PvP players, improving just enough to beat these guys would give you all the power in your interactions with them.

Example: BoxyFresh is not very good at PvP, most streamers aren't. He's just good enough to beat the swabbie - mid players; or survive long enough that they become willing to talk. He's made a living farming interactions from these guys, because he's charismatic enough for people to wanna talk, and competent enough to force them to.

@gigawatgamer said in We need a new, Social Seas:

High seas is alright to play when you're not being harassed constantly by people who only know how to pvp and lack any semblance of communication skills.
Safer seas just isn't enough, reward wise or xp wise.

We need a server where there isn't pvp, but instead Grouping together and doing content is welcomed.
Having multiple ships cruising together, taking down ghost armada or handling forts. Actually having the availability to socialize and make friends and not worry about being robbed, backstabbed, or just straight up bullied by someone trying to speed through their Reaper levels.

I'm tired of wanting to experience content with friends and trying to meet new people and just being met with a hail of fire bombs or a barage of Canon fire for no reason, and no semblance of a reward for the other player. Pvp for the sake of pvping is incredibly boring and frankly annoying.
I don't even care if the rewards would be lacking with them being split between so many people, it'd atleast be entertaining.

God forbid you get robbed in a pirate game with robbing one another being a core part of it. Oh the humanity.

@the-old-soul800

That's cool, but what does that have to do with social interaction?

If you have the ability to beat the people attacking you, I don't see how social interaction could be a problem. Once you've showed them that winning isn't an option, they'll either scuttle, or be very open to talking things out. If you refuse to fight, while "knowing" you're the better player, then you're giving up all your leverage and shouldn't complain.

Again, people have no obligation to talk to you unless you give them a reason to want to, whether through charm or force.

Additionally, this reality of the games function I've been presenting in this thread predates crossplay. It happened consistently on PC only servers.

Then like I said, they definitely heard what you were saying, they just didn't care to respond. PC doesn't make you choose between VOIP and Discord audio.

@coopers-rum I don't know anything about the Arena, other than the fact it was on the main map. I'm aware that the mode was replaced by the Hourglass, but mic muting and other stuff I'm not aware of, so you'd have to properly fill me in.

What I'm suggesting is more in-line with the concept of the "Pirate Legend Hideout" from back in the day, where instead of spawning hung-over, peeling your faced off of a sticky table at a bar, you spawn in a separate instance (the Pirate Legend Hideout, originally, you were supposed to sail out of the waterfall) to gather your supplies and get yourself situated before setting sail.

Instead of a little hideaway, I'd suggest an actual Port Island (with shops and all that stuff), with about 4-6 docks for ships. This would be a fully Non-PvP area (like the Ferryman), and you can't interact with your cannons. On your Captain's Table a voyage spawns, and that's what you use to "set sail" to spawn into the main map. You can do your shopping, get your supplies, etc, and maybe hang out with some peeps before you set sail. Once everyone votes on the Voyage and is on the ship, your ship sails out of the dock and dives into the water, so the next ship can spawn in (on rails though, so people can't do any silly helmsmanship to grief other players), and that way you can spawn somewhere in the map randomly in the sea, ready to blast cannons and eat nanners.

Two other things I'd do for this would be to include a way for you to get back to this "Devil's Shroud Port" somewhere along the south side of the map. Maybe a corridor into the fog that's clear, but always shifting (maybe something to do with the time of day) that you can sail into to get back to the port (Same treasure rules apply though). I'd also make this place a good testing ground for other player activities (such as playing cards, or other mini-games they want to add to enhance the world so there's more to do besides combat with other players).