Hitmarker bugs = hacking

If somebody reports you because they think that you're cheating, and you aren't, then you have nothing to worry about. And you're right - the numerous reports don't help... Them - the more false reports they send, the longer it will take for their reports to be reviewed in the future.

@satanicnemesis said in Hitmarker bugs = hacking:

@galactic-geek I am more concerned with false positives due to mass reporting. I get people crying foul because they are sore losers, but with the hit reg being the way it is, it has made the reports (and those who brag about reporting me) increase dramatically.

As an Xbox Live United Enforcer, I have a pretty good idea of how the system works - so, trust me on this. Mass identical reports that are close together in time (like if an entire team reports you, for example) are lumped into a single, individual report - 1, not many. If mass reports are spread out over time, that time might get you an advantage or safety net, because the longer you go without a report, the less likely serious action will be take against you, especially for minor offenses. Furthermore, mass reports over time only work on certain things that can't necessarily be tracked due to legal reasons, like voice messages, etc. Things like cheating, however, need hard evidence. Since these reports will have no hard evidence of your having cheated, you have nothing to worry about.

If anything, I'd say that your reply is a reportable offense because you're being mean and negative in your response - granted, this is an emotionally-fueled defense mechanism, but it's often better to keep a cool head and simply not respond at all. That way, you're not feeding the fire oxygen to grow; you want to smother it instead.

@callmebackdraft said in Hitmarker bugs = hacking:

@konkydonk there is no way for a player to “abuse” the hitmarker bug, the way it is implemented is just wrong, let me explain.

Everything damage wise (damage to health, ship etc) is calculated and enforced upon by the server as it should be.

However the hitmarker is calculated fully client side.

this means that due to latency that naturally occurs over network connections what the client might consider a hit might be calculated by the server as a miss and thus no damage is applied even though the client shows a hitmarker.

Let me try to sketch a scenario:

You get into a 1v1 fight with an enemy both of ypu are moving around, you shoot your pistol, at this point the following happens:

• pistol fires (client side)
• client sends data to server (your position and angle of your shot)
• bullet flies out in direction of aim (client side)
• server received data and calculates where the bullet is flying, at what velocity and if it hit anything on the way.
• if server detects hit on player it sends the damage info to the player hit and registers the data in its own memory (keeping track of its health)
• regardless of server info the shooter will see his bullet fly and if it hits according to the clients calculations it will show a hitmarker
• if enemy player does not info from server that they got hit (meaning server didnt register a hit) no health damage will be deducted.

In the above situation the issue is created that the shooter thinks he hit but nobody else (the server or the enemy) is aware of this.

The other way around can and will happen too, where the server registers a hit but the shooters client doesnt, thus no hitmarker yet damage is applied to the enemy.

In order to fix this they should have the hitmarker be based of the servers information, that way the hitmarker only shows when the server actually applies damage and doesnt show when the server doesnt.

Good description! Q: If it's so obvious, why is it apparently so hard to fix?

@satanicnemesis said in Hitmarker bugs = hacking:

@konkydonk you can’t abuse it, I have no control over the games hitmarker.

@galactic-geek Being mean? It’s above board trash talk to sore losers. They don’t deserve a civil response. My post isn’t about sensitivity in messages and catering for thin skin people, it’s about people reporting game bugs as hacks on a player.

You're right. They don't deserve a civil response. The problem is that you still respond when they DON'T DESERVE A RESPONSE AT ALL.

It has nothing to do with skin thickness either. I'm not asking you to be sympathetic - I'm asking you to be smart. You don't want to set yourself up for failure by aiming the gun at your own foot.

@satanicnemesis said in Hitmarker bugs = hacking:

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but its nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Fair enough; just trying to help where I can.