Modded players and merged servers

@pariah37

Why the exaggeration? Just why. You got one shotted by a pistol?

No.

You were both killed when bringing back the chest?? Were there any ships around? No? Then he was probably hiding on your boat already and you never bothered checking.

If there was a ship that snuck on you then why weren't one of you playing look out if it was the LAST island?

Seriously posts like these are getting tiresome. You didn't lose because of some PC modding, you lost because you got beat.

SIDE NOTE The person probably sold the chest and left the server which is why the server merged in the first place. Server doesn't merge you if you are sailing, it merges you only when your anchor is down. So the server merged when you GOT to the island to look for the chest which was probably gone, since again the guy was probably ON the boat and saw where you hid it.

If he was on the verge of L9 Athena he isn’t a “new” player by a long way. I’m not even PL and yet I know the difference between normal damage and one shot. He may have been attacked by someone running a hack, he and his crew may have been suffering network issues so they appeared to be one shot. Regardless, he lost the chest because of a server merge. He may well have dropped anchor but he was still on an active voyage.

It doesn’t matter which of the above happened, it is a game issue that can and should be improved.

@captcoza

Opt out on its own could be super easy. Host the game on XBL and job done. Pure XBox environment. And one that’s paid for.

Opt in is pretty much as is.

The risk is that if all XBox players opt out will that leave enough PC players to be viable?

I’m not sure that what Rare intend is true opt out anyway. This talk of “filtering” and putting you in a server with PCs if the numbers don’t add up doesn’t ring true to me. The number of XB players is much higher than PC so I think the statement masked the real intention which is to make sure that everyone finds a game. That’ll be largely what we already have.

@dadiodude said in Modded players and merged servers:

If he was on the verge of L9 Athena he isn’t a “new” player by a long way. I’m not even PL and yet I know the difference between normal damage and one shot. He may have been attacked by someone running a hack, he and his crew may have been suffering network issues so they appeared to be one shot. Regardless, he lost the chest because of a server merge. He may well have dropped anchor but he was still on an active voyage.

It doesn’t matter which of the above happened, it is a game issue that can and should be improved.

Its under assumption he lost the chest due to server merge. We don't know if he did or not.

Server merge only happened because the crew that attacked him LEFT the game. According the the OP he spawned half way across the map. The guy who kill him and his crew mate could have find the chest and turned it in then left.

I'll be honest, I've never lost loot due to a server merge. I'm not saying it doesnt happen, but it hasn't happened to me. As long as you are in banner range to the island when you merge the loot should still be there.

@CaptCoza

PC does not have better loading times. What you are talking about is SSD which is not exclusive to PC.

You are right though. Trying to enforce the OP's belief that he was cheated or someone hacked him will just cause problems later on. We shouldn't coddle posts like these.

@Galactic-Geek

I get what you are saying about giving advice and trying to be civil about the OP's plight, but being direct and letting him know that he did a BUNCH of mistakes first before cheating was an issue will help him in the long run.

We just have different teaching methods. I've always believed that you assess what happened, look at the mistakes, why you made those mistakes, learn from them.

We should definitely give advice at what to do, except the OP didn't ask for advice. He can to complain about what happen and believes the reason he lost was because of a hacker, not because of what he did that lead to that point.

Judging from the lack of details from the story, he automatically jumped to "HAX" when he died and firmly believes it. It'll cause issues later down the line for him as he starts to think there are hackers everywhere and before reflecting on his choices that lead to failure, he just assume it had to be hax.

Tough love in situations like these is best, its what I believe anyways. If you agree great, if not then great also. Just means we have 2 different ways to approach something.

The only real solution to these kinds of problems is to separate PC and Xbox players, even when a PC player isn’t using MODs they still have a severe advantage in controls and so can easily overwhelm us Xbox players. Sorry I can’t afford a thousand odd dollar rig and just want to have fun playing against people with the same controls as me but it sucks the fun right out of the game to have an obvious PC player kill you in an instant just because your can’t react fast enough to sword swipes. It also doesn’t help that some PC players (not all obviously) can cheat with what seems to be no consequences.

Please split up the PC and Xbox players

To the OP.
Crossplay will "soon" be an optional choice you will get to make.

I'm not siding with you here, as it sounds as if you have been ambushed and they probably sighted you and the chest.
Players will spend a long time planning a heist and if done correctly will get the fruits of your labor.
Or it could just be the server merge which did you. We have all experienced that I'm sure.

But it won't be long before you can opt out of crossplay and all those doubts and fears you currently have will all simply vanish away.

@galactic-geek I still can’t afford that even, I barely can get a new game a year if I’m lucky at this point. I’m no pro gamer, just your average joe that enjoys an even playing field which is why I stay away from pay to advance games and popular E-sports games. I just want to enjoy a night of gaming, not be in someone’s YouTube video of how they “owned” some random players. I’m not sinking hours worth of my hard earned money into a controller just to level a game where we all follow some honor system. If someone is better than me, that’s cool, good on them, but if they pull off some miracle that only Jesus himself is capable of then I start to lose interest in the game. I know that if someone mods their Xbox they can be dealt with swiftly by administrators however PC players are nearly impossible to regulate and so can get away with this nonsense on a far to often basis.

I just want to have fun, not waste my money to make it fun.

@pariah37 said in Modded players and merged servers:

For the love of Odin do something about pc modded players as they are ruining the game. I just spent 4 hours doing an Athena. On the final map digging up an Athena chest and our boat gets attacked. I hide the chest in the corner of a cave. Go out to our boat and both myself and my team mate got shot once by a pistol and both were killed instantly. Ship sank so respawned on another island. Sailed back to collect the Athena chest. The servers merged... we get there and the chest has disappeared. There’s no way they would have known it was there and I’ve had treasure disappear from an island after the severs have merged in the past. Either find ways to seriously clamp down on game modders or give Xbox players the chance to not play against them when joining servers. And fix the servers merging problems! Rant over. I don’t like complaining about this game because I love it. But I’ve just spent 4 hours of my life completing an Athena to be attacked by a modded cheater and then to lose the chest to a server merge. I would have hit Level 9 Athena tonight :(

Some things you could improve on:

1. The way you look at the time you spend playing the game.
2. If you're playing with another player(s) then ONE person needs to be a lookout and keep a vigilant eye on the horizon. Always keep the Anchor UP and the sails UP so that when you need to sprint it's possible just by dropping the sails.
3. If you're on a dead server mid-quest then NEVER drop the anchor or you will server transfer; its something you can use to your gain if your focus is PVE.
4. If you encounter cheating then report the players who're cheating. Failing to report them does not help fix the problem.

@flodnak said in Modded players and merged servers:

@galactic-geek I still can’t afford that even, I barely can get a new game a year if I’m lucky at this point. I’m no pro gamer, just your average joe that enjoys an even playing field which is why I stay away from pay to advance games and popular E-sports games. I just want to enjoy a night of gaming, not be in someone’s YouTube video of how they “owned” some random players. I’m not sinking hours worth of my hard earned money into a controller just to level a game where we all follow some honor system. If someone is better than me, that’s cool, good on them, but if they pull off some miracle that only Jesus himself is capable of then I start to lose interest in the game. I know that if someone mods their Xbox they can be dealt with swiftly by administrators however PC players are nearly impossible to regulate and so can get away with this nonsense on a far to often basis.

I just want to have fun, not waste my money to make it fun.

You do realize the so called advantage in this game isnt as severe as in most games right?

Don't use First Person Shooter games as an example when comparing PC to Xbox in this game because this game is not an FPS.

Next don't assume that all PC players are god like because a lot of us aren't. Some are just like you, the regular joe schmo. Just because someone is on PC doesn't automatically mean they are going to win.

Heres a question for you, would you still be against playing with PC players if we were forced to also use controllers?

@bloodybil

And yet, all the ready made cartoons. Like it or not, it’s an issue and one I’ve not experienced in 14 years on XBL.

Regarding opt out, it doesn’t matter what percentage of cheater accusations are actually correct, the fact it’s coming tells us that yes, there are issues. If there weren’t there would be no opt out. No need for it.

You have to remember that XB players are paying to play online. Because they pay the quality has to be right. If it isn’t there are two options. Make it right or stop charging. They are obliged to make it right.

@andyxxpanda1290
Been merged twice now after i killed a meg. Loot was in the water both times. Both times the loot was still there after the merge

@flodnak said in Modded players and merged servers:

@galactic-geek I still can’t afford that even, I barely can get a new game a year if I’m lucky at this point. I’m no pro gamer, just your average joe that enjoys an even playing field which is why I stay away from pay to advance games and popular E-sports games. I just want to enjoy a night of gaming, not be in someone’s YouTube video of how they “owned” some random players. I’m not sinking hours worth of my hard earned money into a controller just to level a game where we all follow some honor system. If someone is better than me, that’s cool, good on them, but if they pull off some miracle that only Jesus himself is capable of then I start to lose interest in the game. I know that if someone mods their Xbox they can be dealt with swiftly by administrators however PC players are nearly impossible to regulate and so can get away with this nonsense on a far to often basis.

I just want to have fun, not waste my money to make it fun.

What you're not seeing are 3 things:

1. Skill

2. Knowledge and Practice

3. Equipment

Even if its X-box only play the field is and never will be even because the Elite Controller and SSD upgrades are not something that Microsoft is going to allow any game developer to exclude because these are upgrades they want to sell because it makes them $$$$$$.

Additionally now Sea of thieves supports mouse and keyboard for those that want it.

Additionally sea of thieves on the Xbox enhanced supports 4K resolution.

Additionally not every player has fiberoptic internet connection that greatly reduces latency.

All of these things are possible in many combinations.

Because of this there can never be an actual level playing field, and so expecting Rare to deliver such a level playing field is both impossible for them and ridiculous to expect or even ask for.

“Level playing fields” as to the spirit of the request do not exist; even a game like Chess is not equal, one player will always win because of vastly superior skill or practice and knowledge.

In no contest that has ever existed has the contest been about anything other than exhibition of skill, practice or equipment.

Once you accept these facts your opinion of gaming will change and you will instead play to have fun with your friends or on your own.