Need a system to opt out of PVP

  • BloodyBil
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    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    That's kinda what happens when a dozen of users create 10 times each the same thread over and over on the same topic. Sprinkle on top a couple of brand new players who don't take the time to get used to the game and voilà, a nice skewed vision on what the "community" demands.

    "Look how MANY of us wants this!!" :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOIHA3SSCvM

  • Vasduten
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    Um... it's an open world pirate game.

    There is no opting out of PvP when you're in the big world, even if you're merrily searching out treasure.

    The whole point of this game was to have a go-anywhere, do-anything-you-please pirate world to have fun in.
    Yeah, you don't like being ganked... but to others it's fun to gank.

    Honestly, learn to watch the horizon, pay attention and learn to maneuver, fight and to finish the fights other start for you.

    Also, learn to take one on the chin. You win some, you lose some... that's how it goes, player.

    You ate a bag of butt tubes that time. Oh well. Next time, you'll be better and smarter. Or, you can feel free to come here and cry about being mastered.

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  • Vasduten
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  • Conquerjm
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    @vasduten as I stated in my last comment, I'm not upset about getting sunk or losing my loot. What I'm upset at is the fact that I had just spawned and the same jerks that sunk me did it again within 5 minutes of a fresh spawn. I'm not asking for PvE or Passive mode, I'm asking for a system to be put in place to stop stuff like this from happening. Maybe a little protection until the fresh spawn is able to go someplace else or spawn the ship and players on an island FAR away from where they were sunk. I don't know anyone who enjoys being spawn killed.

  • Vasduten
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    @conquerjm Um, you outright asked for a PvE option.

    If you spawned too close, you can look at it two ways:

    1. You're closer now and can go ram them immediately and make them pay, or die trying.
    2. You're too close to where you just died, so scuttle and respawn somewhere better.

    There is a third option... but you have to be really creative and not such a pansy.

    You could hide on the outpost island... ghost your ship away by raising the anchor and dropping sails -then jump off without being seen.

    Go hide in a bush near the gold hoarder tent and wait... when they come to shore to sell, shoot them, hack them and steal their loot.

    Or, maybe just come here and complain about how much you can't cope with losing your ship twice in short order.

    Really.. get a grip.

  • BloodyBil
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    @conquerjm said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @vasduten as I stated in my last comment, I'm not upset about getting sunk or losing my loot. What I'm upset at is the fact that I had just spawned and the same jerks that sunk me did it again within 5 minutes of a fresh spawn. I'm not asking for PvE or Passive mode, I'm asking for a system to be put in place to stop stuff like this from happening. Maybe a little protection until the fresh spawn is able to go someplace else or spawn the ship and players on an island FAR away from where they were sunk. I don't know anyone who enjoys being spawn killed.

    It takes 30 seconds to respawn. You mean to tell me you had 5 minutes to see them coming your way and you stayed there waiting for them with open arms instead of leaving to keep doing your voyages?

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  • A Cranky Eskimo
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    Lol... and theres nati just being contrarian and judgemental while advocating for some form of pve mode while we all know a passive mode kills this game, and private servers are coming eventually according to rare.. they sure take every chance they can to pat themselves on the back for not stooping to dreadful pirate behavior in this game lol.... we could all learn from and should look up to this type of holier than thou based on judgements of video game behavior attitude. Lol.... i agree with a lot of what you say on any other topic but idk what your deal is with acting like anyone who pvps is some closet psycho out to get their next victims lol... by defnition the losers could be called that, but really... this is a video game.

    Be nice if more people made posts that were based on logic not emotion.. and then rare actually added some of it so the game wasnt virtually empty of activity.

    Thats the solution to bored pvpers. Make the game world have life and rare spawns of ai and animals to capture etc, npc to encounter, goods to harvest and craft and use for pirate purposes or to increase sale value. Have an actual world that supports piracy and player interaction with more than infinitely spawning chests from random maps..

    We have everything in much too generic ways, every island uses the same 5 plants and trees copy and pasted, we have animals with the same arbitrary color tiers rather than any sort of variance, and only 3 types, skeletons arent diverse in ai behavior or asethitic.

    I could go on and on with real actionable feedback but people would rather make up nonsense about people who dont understand the game being a good reason to cripple its development/gameplay loop.

    You have a way to defend your ship, its called your brain and the cannons, and rare knows this can happen, hence the scuttle option.

  • ViperishEmu2992
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    @bloodybil said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    That's kinda what happens when a dozen of users create 10 times each the same thread over and over on the same topic. Spinkle on top a couple of brand new players who don't take the time to get used to the game and voilà, a nice skewed vision on what the "community" demands.

    "Look how MANY of us wants this!!" :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOIHA3SSCvM

    Yes, and the Earth is Flat. It's all a plot by a dozen people bent on ruining your fun in SoT. Gimme a break man!

  • BumBumBac
    Castaway

    @conquerjm said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    I am sorry I haven't replied. I'm not salty at the fact I was sunk and lost my loot, I understand that is part of the game. The thing I'm salty over is the fact that shortly after a fresh spawn the jerks came at us again and sunk us for nothing. They didn't take our supplies or anything, just sunk us. I did try to communicate to them and they just ignored me. All I am saying is a little protection for a fresh spawn or something. Not a PvE mode or a passive mode. I never once mentioned PvE or Passive mode in my initial post.

    Whatever reasons they had they certainly had some, the fact that you don't know them makes you baffled but rest assured they surely had their reasons...

    I can speak only for myself not the crew that attacked you, but maybe those players were minding their own business in another session prior to your encounter with them, maybe running an athena when new crewmates joined them, maybe the new crewmates brigged them without saying a thing or responding to welcomes and greetings, maybe they cancelled the athena and voted for a tall tale. True story, happened to me.

    A beautiful mutiny by PVE players... but also one that for the sake of justice demands a retribution. And since SOT doesn't allow you to get back directly at those who offended you (e.g. by letting you join the very same server the incident happened on and kill them), you take it out on anyone like them, their kin. In my case, everyone... and you go and try to sink everyone you spot. And if you succeed, you go and seek and find them again and sink them time and over... until you've satisfied your appetite for revenge.

    What I mean to say is don't take it personally, maybe you were just caught in a greater plot as a victim of someone's else crimes. Life is like that sometimes, unfortunately.

    I can only suggest that you include blood thristy madmen in your expectations of this world in the future.

  • ViperishEmu2992
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    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

    Does their reason matter? Are you sure it's incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill? Couldn't it also be an astute business sense of recognising supply and demand in the market place? I mean, it's bound to be a lot of things considering how often different people keep asking for this feature.

  • BumBumBac
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    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

    Does their reason matter? Are you sure it's incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill? Couldn't it also be an astute business sense of recognising supply and demand in the market place? I mean, it's bound to be a lot of things considering how often different people keep asking for this feature.

    Only people who haven't yet developed their skills to a certain level of mastery of the game are asking for this PVE feature. I'm certain of it as the Sun rising in the East...

    This PVPVE world is already mostly PVE only and PVP doesn't happen UNLESS

    1. you want to.
    2. you neglect your duties.

    And everyone who DIDN'T WANT TO then logically must have NEGLECTED THEIR DUTIES.

  • BloodyBil
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    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bloodybil said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    That's kinda what happens when a dozen of users create 10 times each the same thread over and over on the same topic. Spinkle on top a couple of brand new players who don't take the time to get used to the game and voilà, a nice skewed vision on what the "community" demands.

    "Look how MANY of us wants this!!" :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOIHA3SSCvM

    Yes, and the Earth is Flat. It's all a plot by a dozen people bent on ruining your fun in SoT. Gimme a break man!

    Yeah, no. It's hardly a conspiracy when literally the same people post(ed) daily threads with slightly different titles to make it seem distinct from the others.

    • "RARE we need PVE servers!!!"
    • "So many griefers in this game!!!!"
    • "Why we need to embrace PVE servers"
    • "Too many trolls and toxic players"
    • "I was playing for 1231 hours and got sunk and lsot everything. PVE servers NAO"

    One person asking 10 times for the same thing doesn't mean it has more demand than someone else asking once for something else.

  • EVA1977
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    Don't know why everyone is so against this when clearly it is the evolution of most games, Single player, massive multiplayer or online, battle royal type (arena), these 3 modes can keep all sides happy so i say it's natural progression and hope we see this one day.

  • ViperishEmu2992
    Marauder

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

    Does their reason matter? Are you sure it's incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill? Couldn't it also be an astute business sense of recognising supply and demand in the market place? I mean, it's bound to be a lot of things considering how often different people keep asking for this feature.

    Only people who haven't yet developed their skills to a certain level of mastery of the game are asking for this PVE feature. I'm certain of it as the Sun rising in the East...

    This PVPVE world is already mostly PVE only and PVP doesn't happen UNLESS

    1. you want to.
    2. you neglect your duties.

    And everyone who DIDN'T WANT TO then logically must have NEGLECTED THEIR DUTIES.

    That's not true. You shouldn't bundle people into convenient groups or assume you know their motivation from one post.

    For example. I am probably about as experienced at this game as they come. I'm not saying I'm the best player, but.... I have zero interest in playing a PvE-only mode. But I still advocate it's creation because....

    There is obviously a demand for one since it's probably the most common type of post (No it's not plot by a small group of people like the Moon Landing!)

    The more players who stick around or come to the SoT the better for all of us. (I don't care what Mode people are playing in, and neither should anyone. Just as long as they are playing SoT. A bigger player count benefits us all.)

  • ViperishEmu2992
    Marauder

    @eva1977 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Don't know why everyone is so against this when clearly it is the evolution of most games, Single player, massive multiplayer or online, battle royal type (arena), these 3 modes can keep the all sides happy so i say it's natural progression and hope we see this one day.

    Thank you. Another voice of reason.

  • Dadiodude
    Ship Mate

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

    Just for clarification. We are still debating a game here. Something to amuse, to while away a little spare time until something more important comes along. A video game to give a little fun and distraction if there’s nothing on TV.

    Good grief, so what if a sizeable percentage of purchasers would like to see a change. It may not be a change you or I would ask for but for heavens sake, it really wouldn’t negatively affect your life. Calm down dude.

    BTW, what is a “PvE community” and can anybody buy one.

  • ViperishEmu2992
    Marauder

    @bloodybil said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bloodybil said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    That's kinda what happens when a dozen of users create 10 times each the same thread over and over on the same topic. Spinkle on top a couple of brand new players who don't take the time to get used to the game and voilà, a nice skewed vision on what the "community" demands.

    "Look how MANY of us wants this!!" :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOIHA3SSCvM

    Yes, and the Earth is Flat. It's all a plot by a dozen people bent on ruining your fun in SoT. Gimme a break man!

    Yeah, no. It's hardly a conspiracy when literally the same people post(ed) daily threads with slightly different titles to make it seem distinct from the others.

    • "RARE we need PVE servers!!!"
    • "So many griefers in this game!!!!"
    • "Why we need to embrace PVE servers"
    • "Too many trolls and toxic players"
    • "I was playing for 1231 hours and got sunk and lsot everything. PVE servers NAO"

    One person asking 10 times for the same thing doesn't mean it has more demand than someone else asking once for something else.

    One could easily point out that it's the same 6 people who are always so adamantly against it. And for the most selfish and juvenile of reasons.

    Believe me. Rare have Mega threads on this for a reason. Claiming some kind of conspiracy by a small group of people is a weak argument. Like little Tyranosaurus arms trying to reach and lift a heavy object. It's sad to watch really. Which is why I can't turn away from this discussion.

  • BloodyBil
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    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bloodybil said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bloodybil said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    That's kinda what happens when a dozen of users create 10 times each the same thread over and over on the same topic. Spinkle on top a couple of brand new players who don't take the time to get used to the game and voilà, a nice skewed vision on what the "community" demands.

    "Look how MANY of us wants this!!" :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOIHA3SSCvM

    Yes, and the Earth is Flat. It's all a plot by a dozen people bent on ruining your fun in SoT. Gimme a break man!

    Yeah, no. It's hardly a conspiracy when literally the same people post(ed) daily threads with slightly different titles to make it seem distinct from the others.

    • "RARE we need PVE servers!!!"
    • "So many griefers in this game!!!!"
    • "Why we need to embrace PVE servers"
    • "Too many trolls and toxic players"
    • "I was playing for 1231 hours and got sunk and lsot everything. PVE servers NAO"

    One person asking 10 times for the same thing doesn't mean it has more demand than someone else asking once for something else.

    One could easily point out that it's the same 6 people who are always so adamantly against it. And for the most selfish and juvenile of reasons.

    Believe me. Rare have Mega threads on this for a reason. Claiming some kind of conspiracy by a small group of people is a weak argument. Like little Tyranosaurus arms trying to reach and lift a heavy object. It's sad to watch really. Which is why I can't turn away from this discussion.

    I am not claiming conspiracies, I am pointing out that this forum is not a good enough sample of what the community wants as you state, and that it is ridiculous to say "oh yeah people totally want this, look all the threads asking for it!" considering how topics just go in circle. Believe me, these discussions are giving me a good chuckle as well.

  • BumBumBac
    Castaway

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

    Does their reason matter? Are you sure it's incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill? Couldn't it also be an astute business sense of recognising supply and demand in the market place? I mean, it's bound to be a lot of things considering how often different people keep asking for this feature.

    Only people who haven't yet developed their skills to a certain level of mastery of the game are asking for this PVE feature. I'm certain of it as the Sun rising in the East...

    This PVPVE world is already mostly PVE only and PVP doesn't happen UNLESS

    1. you want to.
    2. you neglect your duties.

    And everyone who DIDN'T WANT TO then logically must have NEGLECTED THEIR DUTIES.

    That's not true. You shouldn't bundle people into convenient groups or assume you know their motivation from one post.

    For example. I am probably about as experienced at this game as they come. I'm not saying I'm the best player, but.... I have zero interest in playing a PvE-only mode. But I still advocate it's creation because....

    There is obviously a demand for one since it's probably the most common type of post (No it's not plot by a small group of people like the Moon Landing!)

    The more players who stick around or come to the SoT the better for all of us. (I don't care what Mode people are playing in, and neither should anyone. Just as long as they are playing SoT. A bigger player count benefits us all.)

    The demand exists however it's ill-fated. It comes out of fear and weakness.... Instead of creating safe zones for those who live in fears we should teach them understanding... so they can boldly go where no man has gone before. I mean, how else is Star Trek age ever going to happen if everybody's afraid of what's out there, duh?!

  • Chronodusk
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    @eva1977 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Don't know why everyone is so against this when clearly it is the evolution of most games, Single player, massive multiplayer or online, battle royal type (arena), these 3 modes can keep all sides happy so i say it's natural progression and hope we see this one day.

    The problem is that Sea of Thieves is designed in a way that makes every session turn out differently than the last. The core concept of the game is "seeing a sail on the horizon and not knowing it's intentions."

    And BECAUSE friendly and hostile players are playing in the same world, that is why we don't know what that sail on the horizon is up to. So that would be ruined if you let players have PvE servers and passive modes or whatever. Both sides of the fence would be super boring rather than having one interesting game for everyone. You're changing the game entirely just for people who don't understand the game to begin with.

    Mike Chapman has reassured that PvE servers and the like are probably never going to happen. There was even a Reddit AMA where Mike was asked about it and he abruptly responded "never" to PvE servers.

    If you buy Sea of Thieves, then you buy it knowing what PvE and PvP are like. I honestly don't feel like there's much room to complain about the core concept here since nobody ever said you would be able to PvE in peace...

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  • BloodyBil
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    @chronodusk said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @eva1977 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Don't know why everyone is so against this when clearly it is the evolution of most games, Single player, massive multiplayer or online, battle royal type (arena), these 3 modes can keep all sides happy so i say it's natural progression and hope we see this one day.

    The problem is that Sea of Thieves is designed in a way that makes every session turn out differently than the last. The core concept of the game is "seeing a sail on the horizon and not knowing it's intentions."

    And BECAUSE friendly and hostile players are playing in the same world, that is why we don't know what that sail on the horizon is up to. So that would be ruined if you let players have PvE servers and passive modes or whatever. Both sides of the fence would be super boring rather than having one interesting game for everyone. You're changing the game entirely just for people who don't understand the game to begin with.

    Mike Chapman has reassured that PvE servers and the like are probably never going to happen. There was even a Reddit AMA where Mike was asked about it and he abruptly responded "never" to PvE servers.

    If you buy Sea of Thieves, then you buy it knowing what PvE and PvP are like. I honestly don't feel like there's much room to complain about the core concept here since nobody ever said you would be able to PvE in peace...

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  • ItsKingBertie
    Marauder

    @bloodybil don’t suppose you have a screenshot of the AMA and he replied never to PVE?

  • EVA1977
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    @bloodybil The only thing this tells me is it is their current stance but just like the death toll that was once going to be implemented it ended up never in the game.

    I don't really mind if there is a single player mode but i would like other players that don't want this PVP to have the option, its not up to me but i am not against it.

  • BloodyBil
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    @itskingbertie You can ask @Chronodusk for that, or even do your own research, I for one haven't seen this AMA. All I am providing is a recent tweet from the design director about his opinion on the matter.

    @EVA1977 Sure, we can interpret any things any way we like. The death toll was reversed right away when it got implemented. People have been asking for PVE only since launch and it didn't happen yet so you come to your own conclusion. When devs agree that something needs fixing, they do. When they don't agree it needs fixing well... sword lunge to your own conclusion.

  • BumBumBac
    Castaway

    @dadiodude said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

    Just for clarification. We are still debating a game here. Something to amuse, to while away a little spare time until something more important comes along. A video game to give a little fun and distraction if there’s nothing on TV.

    Good grief, so what if a sizeable percentage of purchasers would like to see a change. It may not be a change you or I would ask for but for heavens sake, it really wouldn’t negatively affect your life. Calm down dude.

    BTW, what is a “PvE community” and can anybody buy one.

    With every game made a new unknown virtual world is created which presents an opportunity to test one's intellect and improve one's intelligence. If we face challenges we learn and grow, and that's a good thing for our own sake and our existence in this universe.

    Schools and businesses often contemplate on how to design the process of learning for their students/employees more like a game that the participants would enjoy and learn from. Understandably so, people like to play and have fun.

    We're talking 'just' a game here but 'also' a great opportunity for DEVs to become teachers for the students of SOT by presenting them with ever greater challenges through which the students will learn and grow until they have become equal to, if not greater than, their masters both in knowledge and skillful application of it.

  • EVA1977
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    @bloodybil I wonder what players with such a authoritative opposition to this would say if they saw single mode all of a sudden.

  • BloodyBil
    Legend
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    @eva1977 Guess we'll have to see it to find out.

  • Chronodusk
    Commander
    Insider

    @bloodybil

    I posted the wrong screenshot... WHOOPS hahahaha

  • BloodyBil
    Legend
    Insider

    @chronodusk Haha yeah I figured :P

  • Dadiodude
    Ship Mate

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @dadiodude said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

    Just for clarification. We are still debating a game here. Something to amuse, to while away a little spare time until something more important comes along. A video game to give a little fun and distraction if there’s nothing on TV.

    Good grief, so what if a sizeable percentage of purchasers would like to see a change. It may not be a change you or I would ask for but for heavens sake, it really wouldn’t negatively affect your life. Calm down dude.

    BTW, what is a “PvE community” and can anybody buy one.

    With every game made a new unknown virtual world is created which presents an opportunity to test one's intellect and improve one's intelligence. If we face challenges we learn and grow, and that's a good thing for our own sake and our existence in this universe.

    Schools and businesses often contemplate on how to design the process of learning for their students/employees more like a game that the participants would enjoy and learn from. Understandably so, people like to play and have fun.

    We're talking 'just' a game here but 'also' a great opportunity for DEVs to become teachers for the students of SOT by presenting them with ever greater challenges through which the students will learn and grow until they have become equal to, if not greater than, their masters both in knowledge and skillful application of it.

    If that’s going to be your argument then you must allow that with a higher intellect comes a desire for meaningful interaction and a strong sense of curiosity (one could argue that these would be PvE tendencies). Low intellects usually resort to ........... well, we all know.

    This isn’t an educational tool, it’s a game, a media product developed to make profit. Please, let’s not bestow upon it some Zenlike meaning.

    This isn’t complex is it. The game features 2 modes that would usually be provided independently in most games. Here they’ve been cobbled together. Some want more combat, some are reasonably happy with the way it plays out and some want more adventure. No right or wrong, just different.

    This is a long way from being a great game and at times it’s a long way from being an adequate game. There is a ton of stuff I’m sure we’d all like to see improved or introduced but for sure, we won’t all agree on what. This, if anything is the lesson.

  • NatiRedGals
    Rogue
    Insider
    Founder

    @dadiodude said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bumbumbac said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

    Just for clarification. We are still debating a game here. Something to amuse, to while away a little spare time until something more important comes along. A video game to give a little fun and distraction if there’s nothing on TV.

    Good grief, so what if a sizeable percentage of purchasers would like to see a change. It may not be a change you or I would ask for but for heavens sake, it really wouldn’t negatively affect your life. Calm down dude.

    BTW, what is a “PvE community” and can anybody buy one.

    Hey hey now. None of that, we can't have people making excuses for the weak and fearful people who just want to live without challenge in their soft lives. It doesn't matter that it's a game, and supposed to be fun and inclusive for all. Its a PiERaT GAEM!!! Its sEa OF tHiEvEs NoT SeA of FRENDZZZ!!111!!

    It's not our fault they ignored that this game was sold as an open pvp game. They should have known what it'd be like because of that and if they weren't up for playing 12 hours a day and watching youtube videos to train their combat skills up and better themselves like the rest of us then they have no right to ask for the game to change just because they lack the dedication to improve.

    /s

    Not really. The hardcore crowd here gets a little nutsy sometimes. Its crazy too because its all about fear that some players might get some cosmetics/titles that have no impact on them at all some what easier than they did.

    They really put defending the "value" of the "work" they've put into the the game in front of whats actually best for it.

    I wish more here could differentiate between what actually affects them and what doesnt.

  • BumBumBac
    Castaway

    @eva1977 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    I don't really mind if there is a single player mode but i would like other players that don't want this PVP to have the option, its not up to me but i am not against it.

    Let us have a PVE world then, a private server with no other pirates on it just you. Megs, Karen and skelly ships will be defeated with 1 shot, fleets will sink and forts open their vaults once you get near, skellies on the islands will suicide not to bother you. The storm and volcanos will make a conscious effort to avoid you and the wind will always change to give you full billow according to how you angle the sails. Chests and skulls will rain from the sky and merch will auto-deliver itself across the seas upon you accepting the contract.

    In the menu there will be a big red button you can press and instantly receive all titles and become the richest, the most famous and celebrated character in SOT.

    There will be absolutely no challenge, everything within your grasp just 1 click away. What a cool game!

  • EVA1977
    Captain
    Insider

    @bumbumbac Oh I did not know all single player games where as easy as you made them out to be in your obtuse sarcastic comment.

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