Remove antomatic mermaids NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that's a bad Idea.

First of all, people (especially new ones and those who don't read patch notes) will be completely confused as to how they would get back to the ship.

Second, those mermaids make it a challenge to sneak on board as opposed to really easy. Besides if you use a rowboat there's no mermaid to come and rescue you, if you're sneaky enough you can just row to the back of the ship attach a rowboat and have no mermaid appear for you at all.

They have alrdy said that mermaid where one of the hardest thing's to code into the game. I highly doubt they will change them anytime soon

I agree, they should be summoned by a horn or something... Atm they are so annoying when i camping places.

or els make em invis so only the player will see it and not everyone els.

@Captain-Ravrous
If you use a Rowboat, Mermaids won't spawn, also, the direction you jump to an island from controls where the mermaid spawns, When you get used to the mermaids, you will be able to control their locations. Good Luck!

@hynieth Your wrong on all counts here.
First off it's no excuse to keep a flawed system in the game because Rare are bad at teaching new players how to play their game and you assume they are not smart enough to learn. You trying to justify keeping it the way it is because " new " players would be to dumb to learn a new simple system is no reason at all.

Second the mermaids are NOT in the game to make sneaking a " challenge" it's a mechanic solely for the purpose of giving players a way back onto their ship if they fall off or get left behind by their crew. However a side effect of this it giving away a player's position if they are far enough away from their ship. Trying to add false meaning behind it only show's you don't understand. As for your rowboat method that is also invalid as the rowboat was not in the game for a great deal of time, if you seriously expect to make that statement then your also saying the game had no proper way to sneak to enemy ships until the rowboat was added. There are holes in everything you said you clearly don't have the proper perspective of game design in mind when you made these statements.

The mermaid system is a good system for the intended purpose it's for but it cripples gameplay aspects, thou I would think this was not intended from the start. Rare likely didn't take into account the impact this would have on gameplay and just made this simple automated system without understanding the effect it would have on sneaky gameplay. However this could all be solved with the addition of a tool to just call for a mermaid that is either activatible or not depending on the player's proximity to their ship. SUCH AN EASY FIX!

@sshteeve said in Remove antomatic mermaids NOW!!!!!!!!!!!:

@captain-ravrous I'll disagree as others have, it is a nice way for Pirates to check whether an island is currently inhabited or not.
You like to sneak, I don't like to lose an Athena chest cheaply because another Pirate can simply camp the outpost hoping for a payday!

Your only saying you don't want to be cautious or have lookouts in your crew. You want a handheld system that prevents you from getting your loot stolen because you weren't paying enough attention.

@captain-ravrous I guess this should be posted.... Again.

Mike Chapman on Twitter / X

@katttruewalker Wow I don't believe a word of this for a second, did Rare pay for this reply?

"This cuts down on outpost/island camping and creates more interesting encounters"

Your joking right... this is plain as day the opposite method for making the game more interesting, it's like being a pickpocket but you have bells hanging off your wrists . This contradicts innovative and clever gameplay in so many ways, your basically saying " here is the giant open world where you can try or do whatever you want to succeed in being a pirate but if you try this tactic we'll blow the whistle on you so everyone knows your doing it and can respond." Camping out on islands for unsuspecting ships to come along ARE interesting plays that make for some of the most memorable and satisfying plays the game has to offer. Look at many big time streamers of the game making the sneak plays and catching crew with their pants down and stealing ( like a pirate ) all their treasure! This simple flawed mermaid mechanic does everything it can in it's current state to hinder this type of fun for players.

Your reply literally sounds like your just copy pasting some patch notes you got from Rare whom just want to cover their mistake by saying " it's working as intended" when it obviously a huge annoyance for so many people.

@sshteeve How is pointing out the fact you rely on a system that announces that player's are nearby me being defensive, you don't seem to have a grasp on what being defensive means.

Also what in the world are you even saying when it comes to the " All crewmates are equal, Let each crewmate be respected as equal...speak openly... " How does that have anything to do with this discussion? Your the one grasping at straws here clearly. There is nothing about changing the mermaid system to not announce players proximity to others that has anything to do with that statement. Also how about instead of looking out for a " flipping mermaid in the water " why not keep a look out for players!? The remark ALONE prove right away you depend on this handheld system and are being the one on the defensive because your " easy giveaway " could be taken from you and it actually making an effort to keep an eye out in a cutthroat pirate world game scares you.

@captain-ravrous said in Remove antomatic mermaids NOW!!!!!!!!!!!:

@hynieth Your wrong on all counts here.
First off it's no excuse to keep a flawed system in the game because Rare are bad at teaching new players how to play their game and you assume they are not smart enough to learn. You trying to justify keeping it the way it is because " new " players would be to dumb to learn a new simple system is no reason at all.

Second the mermaids are NOT in the game to make sneaking a " challenge" it's a mechanic solely for the purpose of giving players a way back onto their ship if they fall off or get left behind by their crew. However a side effect of this it giving away a player's position if they are far enough away from their ship. Trying to add false meaning behind it only show's you don't understand. As for your rowboat method that is also invalid as the rowboat was not in the game for a great deal of time, if you seriously expect to make that statement then your also saying the game had no proper way to sneak to enemy ships until the rowboat was added. There are holes in everything you said you clearly don't have the proper perspective of game design in mind when you made these statements.

The mermaid system is a good system for the intended purpose it's for but it cripples gameplay aspects, thou I would think this was not intended from the start. Rare likely didn't take into account the impact this would have on gameplay and just made this simple automated system without understanding the effect it would have on sneaky gameplay. However this could all be solved with the addition of a tool to just call for a mermaid that is either activatible or not depending on the player's proximity to their ship. SUCH AN EASY FIX!

Just so you can re-read your own post.

If you want a discussion then don't act like someone else is completely wrong when you don't agree with someone, It's immature and frankly insulting. Yes I feel insulted by the post you throw at me and were this not the Internet I'd slap you in the face with a glove to challenge you for a duel!

1. Apparently people generally agree more with me then with you, judging by the upvotes and the ammount of people debunking you.
2. I'll just have to direct your gaze to @Little-Squash 's post:

@little-squash said in Remove antomatic mermaids NOW!!!!!!!!!!!:

@captain-ravrous I guess this should be posted.... Again.

Mike Chapman on Twitter / X

You say I don't know propper game design... I feel like you're just throwing that around to make yourself look good or maybe to feel better about yourself, but as you can see Both Mike and Gregg explain in above post there's a reason for the mermaid popping up without player interaction and it's not just one but multiple reasons.

Well, I see this place is exactly the way I left it.

Demands with extra exclamation points (for emphasis of course) Rudeness, same old arguments and attitude problems, just new faces, and the same old faces trying to keep things civil.

Can't say I missed any of it.

See yiz on March 20th, to see what's up with the update.

OP - would you talk to a real human like that or do you save this sort of attitude for talking to people on the internet? Sort yourself out.

Fine you can all enjoy your anti-sneak style gameplay mechanic, end of the day you rely and having your hand held instead of being capable of keeping and eye out. You can rest easy knowing that nobody can sneak up on you because that mermaid will always have your back and keep the scary pirate away.

Sad

@theunionjames it's not making it easier for me it's making the game more fun and have a broader style of gameplay that is fair.

@theunionjames It takes no effort for someone to spot a mermaid in the water that gives away players, it does take effort to make the sneak plays. Name any other competitive game with stealth where when you are sneaking to get to someone but when you get close some NPC spawns out of nowhere and tells them you are around here someone better watch out.

@katttruewalker said in Remove antomatic mermaids NOW!!!!!!!!!!!:

@captain-ravrous

the system was tweaked already to allow nametags to disappear underwater to enhance 'sneakiness'.

Well i never knew that, Thanks for the tip!

@captain-ravrous I can sneak up on many, just like countless others :) It is ok to get frustrated if you failed to sneak up on a ship several times and they won the battle, but don't blame Rare, a huge player base is perfectly fine with this mechanic, wish you the best in the seas.

@octopus-lime Of course I'm not saying I couldn't be better at sneaking and yes many people do pull it off with the current system however no situation is ever the same. Someone people are just RNG lucky and the mermaid would spawn out of sight or other the other side of an island out of view. But regardless or not being better at it or not, it still doesn't justify the system being the hindrance in the way it is.