Pirate Legends Veteran Rewards

Story of two players for sake of illustration. Dave is a middle schooler with loads of free time on his hands and all his friends play SoT. He hits PL in the first month without really caring that much about the game. Bob, on the other hand, works long hours to pay for his night school classes. He devotes basically every spare moment he has into playing because he loves the game, and it becomes a deeply significant way of releasing stress for him. Because he has so little time, his "every spare moment" can't even reach half of Dave's "when I feel like it."

Now which of those two do you think deserves a reward?

I'm not saying either deserves it more than the other. The point is just that there are decent arguments either way. A full year leaves enough time for people in Bob's position to still hit PL and get the reward. So such a long timeline means no one is excluded who "deserves" the reward. Yes it has the side effect of not rewarding the real early-birds more, but I think that's unavoidable if you also want to equally reward people who just don't have as much time to give.

As always, more text than I should have spent. Hope this makes sense to someone.

Rewards for being PL
Rewards for being day 1
Rewards for having the game
Rewards for retweeting
Rewards for Watching Streams
Rewards for having a computer
Rewards for being Human.

Let's get to the next level boyz, ask some more nonesense stuff.
Terrible topic.

I think we should be happy that year 1 pirate Legends are getting Rewarded.

@Bundui
Funny .. you didnt even realize how ironic my comment was.

Yes, you get day 1 rewards, rewards for retweeting, and for watching streams.
Which is already a lot... yet you still ask for more because you feel entitled to it?
How exactly? Because you played the game more than the others? That doesn't stand as a relevant point at all.

Have you ever played a game that features so much community giveaways and rewards? As far as i'm concerned, Rare is putting as much efforts as they can to deliver these.. more than any company i've seen so far. The streams, the contests, the tweets etc... the opportunties are vast to say the least.

But somehow there's a niche of players in this community that keeps abusing of this and ask for more and more rewards for anything they do!

This selfish behavior makes SoT look like a game that constantly have to make up all sorts of giveaways to keep the most vocal part of the community happy.. wow is that what the game is turning into? A giveaway fest?

How about the game itself?

Daily, I see more posts about giveaways complains than concerns about network/server stability, bugs or gameplay balance!

This topic is just another one of them xD

FYI:

--- We already have rewards for being PL and for being Athena 10, we have shipwrights and cosmetics for that... it's all in game.

--- While the game needs much more of these, we all know that, you can't deny that there isn't anything when it comes to PL and Athena 10 rewards so why making another post about it in the first place??

--- I hope you realize Rare has much more priorities than planning rewards for anything a player feels he's entitled to on a weekly basis.

I'll end my post with this and let your topic slowly reach the limbs of the forum.. where it's place belongs:
The possibility of opting in the Pioneer program will definitely get richer and more interesting feedback to the devs.. I literaly have no doubts about that today.

See you in the seas ;)

@bundui said in Pirate Legends Veteran Rewards:

@vorondil1 said in Pirate Legends Veteran Rewards:

Story of two players for sake of illustration. Dave is a middle schooler with loads of free time on his hands and all his friends play SoT. He hits PL in the first month without really caring that much about the game. Bob, on the other hand, works long hours to pay for his night school classes. He devotes basically every spare moment he has into playing because he loves the game, and it becomes a deeply significant way of releasing stress for him. Because he has so little time, his "every spare moment" can't even reach half of Dave's "when I feel like it."

Now which of those two do you think deserves a reward?

"Bob" is playing game casually, so those type of people don't really care, I mean, that's such a stupid comparison. I'm not saying that someone will get a reward and someone not, EVERYONE IS GETTING A REWARD. But someone who played more, who dedicated more time into the game, he get's something else too. It's that simple. I'm not suggesting here something extremely new, pretty much every game has some sort of stuff like this.

As a "Bob" playing since launch, I find this deeply offensive and misinformed. Bob's have full-time jobs and commitments away from the game that can't be dropped. We play whenever we have free-time. Should us Bobs quit our jobs to play the game 24-7? A lot of us Bobs talk constantly about the game when we're not playing, we buy loads of merch, we tell our buddies that SOT is the best game ever, we're here on the forum reading and chatting when we should be working, and we're lurking in streams trying not to get found out by the boss. Meanwhile, Dave just got another mid-term break and is hopping between SOT, Fortnite, Apex Legends, PUBG at a whim.

Maybe the 1st year Pirate Legend reward could be some of the content for PL they promised since the beginning.

Hi,

Just to be devil's advocate.

I can see the OP's point as I personally achieved Pirate legend quite early on in the game and ingame events & subsequent gameplay tweaks have made things so much easier for players now.

For example skeletons use to never miss when shooting at you with a gun, there also use to be far less random loot items to be found in the world on islands and in the sea surrounding them.

Now just take the Shrouded Spoils event for example i've listed some of the changes this update made below.

Megalodons and Krakens started to drop loot which they never did before, more loot = more rep & gold

Two additional fort items were added the Stronghold Gunpowder Barrel and the Bone Dust both which go toward the very annoying to grind Merchant rep and provide you with quite a lot of gold for a single item.

Roaming Skeleton ships which also drop loot more loot = more rep & gold

Reintroduction of Mermaid Statue's which give you gems you can hand into any faction/guild. more loot = more rep & gold

6 additional forts and much more frequent forts as opposed to only one fort up every 3 hours as before, now by the time you complete one there is another already up.

As I said this is just the the Shrouded Spoils update the other updates also added things like exploding skeletons which actually make Order of souls voyages easier for clearing waves of skeletons, im sure there are plenty of other changes in the other updates but i'm not going to scroll through them all.

Just to be clear I think these updates are great they make the game better than it was before but there is definitely a clear distinction of how difficult it was to get Pirate legend pre all the updates and tweaks.

I don't think Rare will make that distinction clear by giving players like myself anything special though which is their call, but players like myself were playing this game when it really wasn't anywhere near as popular as it is now and journalists were just bashing it for being empty and boring.

@vvaca-hombre said in Pirate Legends Veteran Rewards:

@dr-katman said in Pirate Legends Veteran Rewards:

I don't think Rare will make that distinction clear by giving players like myself anything special though which is their call, but players like myself were playing this game when it really wasn't anywhere near as popular as it is now and journalists were just bashing it for being empty and boring.

That really doesn't have anything to do with Legend status though. I, as well, have been playing since the alpha test and I can guarantee you that I will not reach Legend before the one year deadline.

True its just my opinion that i was putting across in my post im not personally asking for any rewards I was just playing devil's advocate as my post says because I could see many posts reacting negatively towards the OP when they had a fair point but many others were not being very constructive in their approach which is not helpful to anyone.

But if this reward is supposed to represent devotion to the game, Legend status is a poor indicator. It's never been a good barometer on player skill or time invested.>

This one is a little questionable in my opinion, its certainly not a indicator of skill because with enough time the worst player will eventually achieve Pirate legend but to reach that status does require dedication on the players part and to get legend is a lengthy process in general however its much quicker now due to some of the changes i mentioned in my previous post.

And if it's about the difference in difficulty.... well, SoT is a live service game. It is always going to be changed and rebalanced. Do we need to give out retroactive rewards every time the game content and base difficulty shifts? Cause it's gonna happen again. Multiple times if the game lasts long enough.

Ultimately its up to Rare if and when they decide to hand out rewards to players for whatever the reason, the reward in question though as we know it to be is being given out to PL's simply because its the 1 year anniversary of Sea of thieves and Rare obviously wanted to recognise PL's probably im assuming due to the backlash they have seen from some PL's who feel left out in the cold regarding on going content.

The OP was simply making the case that they felt there should be a distinction from PLs who achieved the status earlier due to the increased difficulty of that time which i made a little clearer in my original post as i listed more of the changes there.

Honestly i'm grateful we are even getting anything!

Who's gonna be partakin in the Pirate Legend activities comin up? This guy Legendversary -3/9/2019

@khompewtur congrats!