Creative/Private Mode

  • EDIT: Read the whole thread or at least some of my replies where i sound less provocative or ambitious as in the OP
    It wasnt meant to be that way, just spontaneous and ambitious, sorry if some misunderstood it.


    I want it too now.
    I was against any pve, solo or whatever mode, but i dont care anymore and all upcoming arguments against it are nitpicking stuff to me.
    I won't argue or discuss here about it, i just want to post what i would like.
    Think what you want, write what you want, imho it's only nitpicking and a
    too serious approach about playing games what i dont share and care about.

    So give me a creative mode including progression, event commendations and all content of the live servers.
    I want to

    1. solo pve
    2. coop pve with 2,3,4,6,7,8...24 players
    3. pvp with 1-23 friends in any constelation
    4. full access to all content while playing like and with whom i want!

    I know all arguments against it already
    and my answer is: i dont care!

    Would be cool to have it Rare!!!

    Let me create my own experience and play with whom and how i like i to play.

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  • yep because when i log into a game please Rare give 12 different sub menus of game modes to choose from.

  • @bugaboo-bill , other great sandbox/open world titles have those options. Say, No Man's Sky, Minecraft, etc.. It bugs me everytime why people is against to let other players to play the way they want.. Now there is Reaper's Quest, 20th March will be Arena, no more saying we lose on the PvP side. Which is silly, anyway, because SoT is a play-as-you-like experience, not a gameplay themed game..

  • @bugaboo-bill said in Creative/Private Mode:

    I was against any pve, solo or whatever mode, but i dont care anymore

    You are a changed man... I'm proud of you.

  • I just want to be able to play an offline version when my internet goes out...

  • Hah, at this point I can't even tell if this is satire or not XD

  • @bloodybil sagte in Creative/Private Mode:

    Hah, at this point I can't even tell if this is satire or not XD

    It's not satire it's time to be able to create the adventures with whom and how we like. That's all!

  • @bugaboo-bill
    With fleet events, private servers would make it easier to play mini games and races.

    I too have changed and now support the idea.

  • a solo mode would be stupid in this game unless it was purely story based and story driven and didnt link at all to the multiplayer. rare if you are reading this I beg you not to even think about adding single player mode unless it doesn't carry over to multiplayer

  • @bugaboo-bill sagte in Creative/Private Mode:

    I know all arguments against it already
    and my answer is: i dont care!

    Let me create my own experience and play with whom and how i like i to play.

    I changed my mind, too.

  • @d4m0r3d maybe, but we don't care any longer.

  • @bugaboo-bill said in Creative/Private Mode:

    I know all arguments against it already
    and my answer is: i dont care!

    Rare doesn't care that you want it. The majority of the community doesn't want it. Rare has a different vision than you as well.

    So give me a creative mode including progression, event commendations and all content of the live servers.
    I want to

    1. solo pve
    2. coop pve with 2,3,4,6,7,8...24 players
    3. pvp with 1-23 friends in any constelation
    4. full access to all content while playing like and with whom i want!

    Let me create my own experience and play with whom and how i like i to play.

    Rare: "Nope"

    It's funny how you tried to turn the tables around in this thread. Like it's gonna happen and we have to deal with it and trying to convince you otherwise is useless. It's the other way around mate. It's most certainly not gonna happen because of the aforementioned reasons. If you want it to happen you have to discuss why the game needs it. Right now it's you and the other few like you vs the rest of the community. It's a yes/no discussion. Watch me do this:

    "Let me shoot players that try to avoid pvp so I can feel like a real pirate!!"

    "Would be cool to have Rare!!"

    "I wont discuss and listen to anybody!! I just want it and you guys have to deal with it!"

    You wont get far. You vs the rest + Rare's vision of a pirate game.

  • @d4m0r3d said in Creative/Private Mode:

    a solo mode would be stupid in this game unless it was purely story based and story driven and didnt link at all to the multiplayer. rare if you are reading this I beg you not to even think about adding single player mode unless it doesn't carry over to multiplayer

    What if it had separate progression?
    Nobody would be forcing you to play it either.

  • This game is multiplayer and not single, stop asking for something that goes against the guidelines of the game. The game allows PVE and PVP at the same time, goes from each one to choose how you want to behave.
    Let Rare work on things that improve the game, especially bug fixes.

    Just one more request for Rare:

    Less PVE and more PVP.
    I want to see shot, blood, fight, players crying for being killed or sunk. kkkkkkkkkk

  • @bugaboo-bill

    You don't care about others opinions and arguments. Why should they care about your point of view? If you don't even have the common courtesy to listen to what they have to say and dismiss every other view without being willing to explain it, other than I want it, so give it to me. Especially stating it upfront.

    Therefore this post has no reason to be on the forums that are supposed to be a place to discuss the game and exchange ideas. We are a community that plays in a shared world, the game isn't just made for you and you should consider respecting the opinions of others.

    This topic had been discussed many times before and in a more constructive manner.

  • @davidbarlow Great answer i agree with every word in it.

  • @davidbarlow said in Creative/Private Mode:

    @bugaboo-bill said in Creative/Private Mode:

    I know all arguments against it already
    and my answer is: i dont care!

    Rare doesn't care that you want it. The majority of the community doesn't want it. Rare has a different vision than you as well.

    So give me a creative mode including progression, event commendations and all content of the live servers.
    I want to

    1. solo pve
    2. coop pve with 2,3,4,6,7,8...24 players
    3. pvp with 1-23 friends in any constelation
    4. full access to all content while playing like and with whom i want!

    Let me create my own experience and play with whom and how i like i to play.

    Rare: "Nope"

    It's funny how you tried to turn the tables around in this thread. Like it's gonna happen and we have to deal with it and trying to convince you otherwise is useless. It's the other way around mate. It's most certainly not gonna happen because of the aforementioned reasons. If you want it to happen you have to discuss why the game needs it. Right now it's you and the other few like you vs the rest of the community. It's a yes/no discussion. Watch me do this:

    "Let me shoot players that try to avoid pvp so I can feel like a real pirate!!"

    "Would be cool to have Rare!!"

    "I wont discuss and listen to anybody!! I just want it and you guys have to deal with it!"

    You wont get far. You vs the rest + Rare's vision of a pirate game.

    It is funny, but everything you said here is wrong. Joe Neate has confirmed on several occasions that private servers are coming. It is a matter of when, not if. And the demand for such servers is very big. I would not be as bold as you to claim the majority, since quite frankly there is no source to pull this data from, but I will say there is a very large crowd that want private servers. And no, not just for PvE, but for many, many reasons. Which is why Joe has confirmed it on several occasions.

    What I find funniest is someone claiming to know the vision of the dev team without knowing that the dev team has already contradicted your own vision of the game.

  • @bugaboo-bill There seems to be only one appropriate answer to your opening statement:
    NO, because I don't care!

  • Private servers are coming. It is a huge demand along with more PvE and a cooperative story experience. Even though you can see these things are bigger demands, Rare is focusing more on more PvP with the Arena mode. It is more about getting streaming numbers and the potential new players it may bring right now. It is a ship that has really sailed on already. They would get a lot more players, as well retained them, if they went where more of the players want to sail. Especially the ones that would stick around for a long time if they did.

  • @bugaboo-bill

    NO dude. You've lost it lol.

    And you better watch out if I see your name on my server ohhhhh I'm so gonna come give you a lot of smacks. A LOT.

  • @nofears-fun "Sea of Thieves is a new type of multiplayer game that delivers all you need to live the free-roaming pirate life. Whether adventuring as a group or sailing solo, you'll encounter other crews... but will they be friends or foes, and how will you respond?" It's literally their description of the game. It's how the game is designed. Please link me a source of Joe Neate confirming private servers.

    You're telling me there is a very large crowd that want private servers based on the number of posts you see about it on the forums/reddit. I'm telling you there is an even larger crowd against it, based on the overwhelmingly negative responses to such threads. This is why this thread started with "I know all the counterarguments, pls dont tell em again.". It's a simple fact that more people respond negatively to such ideas than people are for such ideas. No "statistics" needed.

    Even if Joe confirmed it, it's bad for the game. Splitting the playerbase, which will result in an even smaller playerbase. The private server people will get bored eventually as well, as there is nothing unknown left at the horizon. Even if you tell me no, you're just not realising it yet. The game will get boring without pvp. The game will also get boring with pve. It's the combination of both that make this game what it is.

    Edit: I hope you don't mean that tweet of Joe. I'll see you in 3 years if that's the case.

  • @davidbarlow Pretty sure Rare knows how strong the player base is and whether it could survive adding private servers or not is healthy for the game, and therefor would not commit to it if they thought it would be bad for the game.

    Fact is, there is a very large player base that wants private servers. I don't go to reddit, but I spend plenty of time here on these forums. And I would say the idea is not something everyone wants, but enough do want it that it will be something you see.

    And I did say, I won't argue about which side has more people asking for or against it. As there is no data to support either argument. There is however facts that support that Private Servers are coming, that comes from the head of the dev teams mouth himself. So we will see it.

    Private servers would solve a lot of issues for Rare. There are soo many people clamoring for so many things.

    • I want my friends to join me on a server on another boat.
    • I want to sail around and explore.
    • I want to just get on a boat and do PvE without hasle.
    • I want to have a community event where we play skull ball or any number of other community events. (There are many separate communities-clans- that are rather large that hold community events once in a while. I am sure if they had private servers they would do them far more often. Pretty sure everyone of those communities wants private servers).
    • I want to challenge my friends to combat without others interfering.
    • Most streamers want private servers so that they can invite special guests for various reasons.

    Having private servers solves a lot of issues and requests for Rare. And as I said, Rare knows the player base better than either of us as far as if this will hurt the game or not.

  • @davidbarlow The tweet and he took several minutes out of a weekly stream to address it. I mean to the point of putting down his controller and looking at the camera as he address it, and said it was a personal priority for himself and others at Rare. They see the need and the reasons why it is desired.

  • @nofears-fun @x-Crowheart-x
    I don't know why people keep thinking "Private" servers equals PVE servers. I have not seen or heard anything to indicate this and if you have, I would appreciate a link.

    When I heard private servers mentioned, I had assumed it was basically going to be a way to set up custom games in Arena mode.

    You want to get 6 of your friends together and set up a free-for-all game with 6 solo sloops? Here's a private server with 9 squares of the map.

    You want to get 16 of your friends together and set up an 8v8 sea battle with 2 galleons vs. 4 sloops? Here's a private server with 16 squares of the map?

    You want to set up a game of capture the flag (or capture the skull) with your friends? Here's a private server.

    If that isn't what Rare is planning on doing with private servers, it should be.

    I never though private servers would be something people could earn any loot or rep in (it shouldn't be), just something to set up fun games with your friends/communities.

  • @little-squash I am not dictating what you would use a private server for, just saying the many reasons I have seen people ask for them. As for a separate mode as you suggest, I have seen nothing to suggest private servers would be stripped down versions of what we have today. They would simply be similar to locking your crew on the ship. Or at least that is what I understand. Really, no official plans have been released and no one knows what Rare or Joe are thinking when they commit to it, but they have committed to it in some form or fashion.

  • @nofears-fun Well as you said Rare knows the playerbase. Joe also said its a matter of when, not if. It's not like the content creators would implement such a thing, so why dont we even have an "invite another crew" button? Would solve most of your issues, except the avoiding pvp part. They wont add it because the playerbase isnt as large as they would want it to be. This is why you see people complaining about empty servers. They could also increase the amount of players per server. But just look at this, what an "invite another crew" button would solve:

    • I want my friends to join me on a server on another boat. check
    • I want to sail around and explore. check
    • I want to just get on a boat and do PvE without hasle. nope
    • I want to have a community event where we play skull ball or any number of other community events. check
    • I want to challenge my friends to combat without others interfering. kinda
    • Most streamers want private servers so that they can invite special guests for various reasons. check

    Try to think of one reason Rare hasnt implemented such a feature yet, besides the reason that they dont wanna split the playerbase or dont want more empty servers.

  • @little-squash

    I am not dictating what a private server would be used for either. Never said other wise. I said private servers and PvE are highly requested things. Things that can be independent and inclusive of each other. In fact I would run a private server with the original vision that Rare had for this game and not the condensed soup mini SoT give players more of an opportunity for PvP mode called the Arena.

  • @davidbarlow said in Creative/Private Mode:

    why dont we even have an "invite another crew" button? Would solve most of your issues, except the avoiding pvp part.

    The game definitely needs a invite other crews or join friends and family option. Would solve so many problems on its own. May not need private server with it. Would not even need other modes like the Arena. Could also use a change ship size and both an add and remove crew members options to go along with it.

    People mostly want private servers for the high levels of toxicity and trolling that exists in Sea of Thieves.

  • @x-crowheart-x Exactly what I was thinking!

    It would indeed solve tons of issues while still keeping pvp and pve in the same game. Both parties should be happy.

  • @bugaboo-bill said in Creative/Private Mode:

    @bloodybil sagte in Creative/Private Mode:

    Hah, at this point I can't even tell if this is satire or not XD

    It's not satire it's time to be able to create the adventures with whom and how we like. That's all!

    http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/oh-wait-youre-serious-let-me-laugh-even-harder.jpg

    In all seriousness, is this the new format of feature/mode begging posts?

    I want THIS and I want it NOW. Don't care what anyone thinks, my needs must be met, obey me RARE!!!

    Rare really ought to create a "Wishing Well" or "Santa's List" section in the forum for these sorts of demands tantrums.

    You make it clear you don't care about what anyone says if it's to disagree with you, I guess people will remember this in your future posts as well.

    @nofears-fun said in Creative/Private Mode:

    @davidbarlow The tweet and he took several minutes out of a weekly stream to address it. I mean to the point of putting down his controller and looking at the camera as he address it, and said it was a personal priority for himself and others at Rare. They see the need and the reasons why it is desired.

    He also mentioned in another livestream how the team wants the focus to be put on the notion of everyone playing together as much as possible. That's what they want to incentivise. They may give access to private custom servers (and they most likely will) for community events and such, but I wouldn't expect gains in this mode. Customise your game without any threats at all and go sailing simulator to your hearts content, completely sheltered, but why should you get rep, gold and commendations for it?

    Could you imagine tailored events such as this week's mercenary voyage go to waste because some people don't want to take risk, and go grind those reaper's mark commendations by themselves in private? What kind of sense does it make?

    If you don't want to take the same risks as everyone else in the game, why should you get access to the same rewards? Should a soccer team playing by itself get a trophy and win a championship for shooting an empty net too?

    My turn, my turn: Dear Santa Rare, please double the difficulty level of every PVE threats in the game, and raise the cap of player ships per server! I wAnT iT NoW!!

  • @davidbarlow said in Creative/Private Mode:

    @x-crowheart-x Exactly what I was thinking!

    It would indeed solve tons of issues while still keeping pvp and pve in the same game. Both parties should be happy.

    Yep we need this now. Should have been there since day one and before trying to create modes.

  • @bloodybil Mate, I am not arguing for or against any of the reasons for Private Servers. Though I would say, I would take part in them if they were available. Either for community events, to play with other friends (and not necessarily to be friendly, lol) or to play with my kids that love the game, but I need to shelter them from some of the toxicity that occurs.

    As for rep or gold or anything like that, I have said before that I think it should not be completely removed, but certainly should not be equal to what you get in regular mode. I would say about 50% of what you get in regular mode. Similar to how playing in the DR gets you double because the PvE side is much harder, in a private server, if you are playing for the PvE only, then you are not facing as much of a challenge as you would in regular mode.

  • @bloodybil said in Creative/Private Mode:

    Could you imagine tailored events such as this week's mercenary voyage go to waste because some people don't want to take risk, and go grind those reaper's mark commendations by themselves in private? What kind of sense does it make?

    If you don't want to take the same risks as everyone else in the game, why should you get access to the same rewards? Should a soccer team playing by itself get a trophy and win a championship for shooting an empty net too?

    Some events, such as this one should never be in a private server. Neither should invite friends as that would accomplish the same thing.

    My turn, my turn: Dear Santa Rare, please double the difficulty level of every PVE threats in the game, and raise the cap of player ships per server! I wAnT iT NoW!!

    Not sure if this is directed at me, if so, than what is your point. The only time I have demanded Rare give anything now was for bug fixes. Other than that, I make suggestions based on my experiences both solo and with others. That is no different than anyone else. And for private servers, I am certainly not the one that suggested it, and was in fact against it at first. But the more I thought about it the more I realized the potential in it.

  • @davidbarlow While I agree it could solve some issues, it would also create some. You invite three ships worth of friends onto a server and decide to dominate the server. You are now overpowering to anything else on that server. And would that then become a battle cry for griefing? I see the merits, but I would prefer private servers as I think it solves the issues without adding new ones to the general population.

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