Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!

@needsmokes said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:

Great to know they know there is a problem with it!

And a massive shut up to ALL YOU PC PLAYERS that thought you were good and claimed we were just being salty!

Can't wait for the day when we have total parity and i see somebody out on the seas typing in the chat.. Oh am i gonna grief you!!

Shut up? To PC players? I'd wait until you see the Dev video if I was you...

@flatflafel just a difference in ping

@darkjedirebel I was not trying to bait anything, just point out your own contradictions, and how the real issue, from your own words, is too much PvP.

All I ask is how do you think optional cross play will solve that?

You even gave examples of how you play that describe exactly what you are complaining about.

Again not baiting just pointing out how people, including yourself, lump the very valid problems you describe "not having much to do", and "turning to PvP for fun" - I have paraphrased a bit, into its all the PC players fault.

And I haven't seen anyone be able to justify that. Its easier to blame the other "tribe" (PC Players)

@himwhoeatstime said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:

I'll be asking for a refund if they end crossplay. It is one of the major reasons I bought the game. I have little else to play with XBox friends and I've wanted, for years, to have something to play with them.

I will not suck up my $60 dollar purchase and play on empty servers.

Same here mate if we lose crossplay completely or and changes to it negatively impacts fun and gameplay. Was one of the main reasons for my family to all purchase Sea of Thieves. It was so we could all play together.

Sad if Rare has started believing in this fear mongering conspiracy theory. Wonder what will be complained about next when they still lose to someone else.

I find it ironic that the majority of players against optional Cross play are either PC players or from what I would assume (those who cannot even tell who is Xbox or PC).

Optional Cross play will be the best thing they ever did to this game and would bring back many many players who got sick of the ridiculous advantage differences.

@je0rgie-p0rgie said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:

My hope is that Rare will say something along the lines of, "we're not going to enable optional cross play at this time but we feel that the combat changes coming in February 6th's update will help level the playing field." If the statistics are correct about only 15% of the player base being PC players then doesn't that mean a majority of the time Xbox players are in fact fighting other Xbox players?

I think when someone gets bested their first response is to look at how the other player has an advantage rather than what they could do to improve their own advantage. Keep in mind I'm NOT using the word advantage in place of cheating I'm simply saying that if someone dies they might think, "well I was strafing! How did that guy kill me?! He must be a PC player with professional grade aim!" When in reality maybe that player wasn't strafing well enough or they bumped into something, the opposing crew had a 2nd player that they weren't aware of, or maybe that other player just has really good aim on an Xbox controller!

My crew is mostly comprised of Xbox players. We go up against all sorts of players and my crew doesn't seem to have a problem. No ones perfect and my crew definitely has our fair share of our own sunken ships but we always look at what we did and what we can do to prevent something like that from happening in the future. I think we've made huge strides together as a crew and I think more importantly we've become better players because of it.

Well said sir! My spouse and I play on PC. We hardly ever see other players on a PC. We also love playing our XBOX as well. Do not consider ourselves having an advantage. The only advantage if you want to call it that is We can type out messages to other pirates instead of just selecting from can text. My family that plays together with us does everything the same as we do.

Sadly some in society find more ways to separate us all than bring us together. A lot for the same reasons happen in games as it does in real life. Same is true with this. Crossplay is a way to unite gamers no matter what the box looks like that your controller is hooked to. The more we come together and play together, the more we have to win together.

@x-crowheart-x said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:

@je0rgie-p0rgie said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:

My hope is that Rare will say something along the lines of, "we're not going to enable optional cross play at this time but we feel that the combat changes coming in February 6th's update will help level the playing field." If the statistics are correct about only 15% of the player base being PC players then doesn't that mean a majority of the time Xbox players are in fact fighting other Xbox players?

I think when someone gets bested their first response is to look at how the other player has an advantage rather than what they could do to improve their own advantage. Keep in mind I'm NOT using the word advantage in place of cheating I'm simply saying that if someone dies they might think, "well I was strafing! How did that guy kill me?! He must be a PC player with professional grade aim!" When in reality maybe that player wasn't strafing well enough or they bumped into something, the opposing crew had a 2nd player that they weren't aware of, or maybe that other player just has really good aim on an Xbox controller!

My crew is mostly comprised of Xbox players. We go up against all sorts of players and my crew doesn't seem to have a problem. No ones perfect and my crew definitely has our fair share of our own sunken ships but we always look at what we did and what we can do to prevent something like that from happening in the future. I think we've made huge strides together as a crew and I think more importantly we've become better players because of it.

Well said sir! My spouse and I play on PC. We hardly ever see other players on a PC. Do not consider ourselves having an advantage. The only advantage if you want to call it that is We can type out messages to other pirates instead of just selecting from can text. My family that plays together with us does everything the same as we do.

Sadly some in society find more ways to separate us all than bring us together. A lot for the same reasons happen in games as it does in real life. Same is true with this. Crossplay is a way to unite gamers no matter what the box looks like that your controller is hooked to. The we come together and play together, the more we have to win together.

No advantage? 😂. Okay mate.

“The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart.”

~ Robert Green Ingersoll

@badassfro said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:

@marsmayflower said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:

i can't wait to see the backlash from the PC crowd when they offer an auto-aim option for console.

I don't see why PC can't get auto aim too? Then it would be balanced, and if you say "we'll they can turn and get the target faster". All I say to that is what about the person who has their controller sensitivity turned up and turns faster than you. Is that balanced.

I think there should be no sensitivity controls, since you are so into balance.

huh? never have I said there needs to be balance. you will always have people with better gear. I like the game the way it is. I was only commenting on the fact how one change will upset another group. you can't make everyone happy.

i dont think its to do with auto aim or crossplay toggle, i think its likely about keyboard and mouse support coming for xbox users.

I say this because i noticed razers website listing sea of thieves as a compatible game for the xbox K+M list, but was then quietly removed from the list. Im guessing it was removed due to rare not officially announcing it yet.

Don’t get too excited. The “dev update” is the video that Rare puts out - not the game upgrade itself. For Joe to say it will be “addressed” simply means he will talk about it. He might say they have looked at the telemetry and the only real issue has been double gunning, which is fixed now. Or he might say other changes implemented or planned will level the playing field. Or even that the telemetry shows no significant advantage for players on certain platforms! Do not assume optional cross play is the only thing that might be done.

Perhaps they will simply make ladders retractable so that boarding is harder. :-)

I'm on xbox, I like crossplay, don't change it.

I'm on xbox, I dont like crossplay, change it

I'm on PC & Xbox, Don't change it.

@jonavuka said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:

My prediction: optional crossplay. Xbox players will rejoice and then they get dunked on again... They try to figure out what else to complain about

There won't be anything for us to complain about as we won't be getting punked on by macro PC users.

@needsmokes you'll need to clarify what you're wondering. PC players banned for "cheating" probably has little or no correlation with PC players upgrading their rigs to get better graphics/performance. They are two separate issues. Also, I bet that it's a very small % on both counts; at this point probably sub-1% on cheating, and I would guess sub-20% on any kind of excessive upgrade.

@needsmokes gotcha! Yep, I get the impression it's pretty hard to cheat on console, so most banned cheaters are probably pc. Good riddance to them. My hope, though, is that Rare's enforcement has been effective enough that actual cheating is more or less completely gone now, from both platforms alike, in which case it wouldn't be hugely relevant to crossplay discussions. Haven't a clue if that's the case or not, though.

I like the idea of a set turn speed or sensitivity. That’s where i see the biggest diversity in input devices. I think other games would benefit from this type of balance too. Unfortunately I’m sure it’s open to manipulation.

@br0crastinat0r yep that's one of the more promising solutions! My question though is if you set it too low, then you'll throw off all of us PC players that are used to high sensitivity. If you set it too high, console players will probably get surprised and irritated by how over-sensitive it is. And if you try to meet in the middle, you'll just irritate everyone at once (the hallmark of a good compromise, eh?).

@needsmokes I hear you, friend! My personal experience (and that of my console crewmates) has been that every time a battle was lost, it was a question of skill and not hardware advantage. I am concerned that after only a couple incidents that were glitches/cheating (separate issues from crossplay), console players are over-exaggerating the issue. However, it sounds like you have much more experience on the seas then I, so I totally don't mean to question or invalidate your experience. If you're confident that there is a truly significant disparity, then I am 100% in favor of finding the least invasive way possible to fix that disparity. Here's to hoping Rare finds a good solution that satisfies all/most of us!

@vorondil1 @BR0CRASTINAT0R I have actually been suggesting that as the only real solution to keep cross play as it is now. No option but to play cross play. It is the only way to truly balance between the two. And, since most PC players insist the differences are very minor, it won't really be game breaking for them. (For the record, I play on both, and there are definitely differences between the two that can make a big difference in PvP).

@vorondil1 I agree completely. The situation on turn speed is not an easy one, and will persist even if we get and optional cross play or input. I’ve noticed it’s a determining factor in most fps. As this game is built around a level playing field, that would be the best solution. They have already adjusted the sensitivity once or twice, can’t really argue it’s not an option for them to do it again.

@nofears-fun @BR0CRASTINAT0R good points all around. If they do try setting turn speed/sensitivity, do you think it would work better to slow down pc turn speed more, or turn up console turn speed more? Or meet in the middle? See my earlier post for the source of my curiosity :)