Not like fortnite so don't worry folks. A seperate game mode so if you don't want to play it you don't have to(to all the pve people out there). Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game! Save the game! It would explode as a top game out there if you implemented it. People would be streaming Pirate Battle Royale like crazy. Don't worry people who say no to this I am only asking for a game mode not to change the whole game entirley. You would still be able to sail around without anyone bothering you.
Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!
I respectfully disagree with this sentiment.
While a battle royale style gamemode would likely draw people in, it would also take away from the actual game, in a similar fashion to Fortnite.
It wasn't the zombie hoarde tower defense main game that got people obsessed over it. It was the free battle royale version of the game that did that.
I fear the same thing would happen to Sea of Thieves, thus ruining the game, stealing developement resources away from it, and drawing in a pvp crowd that if they ever did decide to play the main game, would plague it with pvp on every server.
We don't need every new game out there to get on the battle royale bandwagon. It's unnecessary and frankly, would really hurt the game as a whole, ruining it entirely.
In a sea of samey-games, Sea of Thieves is one of a few that stands out on its own, and I like it just as is. It doesn't need a tacked on battle royale mode to be successful.
@cpt-vunderbar I completely agree with every point you’ve made. Stop trying to turn this game into a copy of someone else’s game...
@artanissss This would be really good for the game IMO. Would take virtually no resources to implement and would be a huge boon to the game in terms of things to do, appeal to new players, and appeasing PvP players. PvP is a mess right now with clunky weapons and bad balance, but this could both focus PvP problems so that they could be dealt with as well as increase Rares available resources if it does well.
@cpt-vunderbar
While I have no desire for a Battle Royale mode and don't care if Rare does, or doesn't, decide to go for any such thing (as a separate mode for the game):It's kind of funny how Fortnite was this pretty cool zombie horde and building game - turned most popular Battle Royale game.
However, saying that its BR success would ruin the base game is not true, in the case of Fortnite.
Fortnite continues to develop their base game, and they use the funds coming in from the BR to do so.
The base game may not have anywhere near the amount of content it has gotten, had it not been for the success of the BR mode.So, if a SoT BR were guaranteed the success of Fortnite BR (not likely) with all of the DLC money they pull in for skins and such... they'd have a ton of cash to continue producing a monumental amount of stuff for the base game.
However, chasing that sort of BR success is the same as all the MMOs that shot for the WoW level of success. It's not going to happen.
Whether or not they could yield benefits to the overall base game from a marginally successful BR release, however, I am honestly not sure.I think a BR mode would be pretty cool. If it were available I might play it around 1/3 of the time, 2/3 of the time base game.
It would be simple. Same map, same stuff, but quests/random loot spawns are disabled. You spawn at an outpost away from any immediate threats, stock your ship and go hunting.
But I doubt it will happen, as Rare have already said they don't want to do anything that splits up the player base.
@pdt-mindstream That's how I see it as well. I really doubt that it would blow up even close how fortnite did, but even so both modes of fortnite benefited from the popularity. A battle royal mode or any other PvP mode could really only benefit the game as it would provide a more accessible experience to draw in new players to support the game.
@personalc0ffee Why? I can't see how adding BR(or some other death-match game mode) can be anything but good for the game.
@betsill said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
@personalc0ffee Why? I can't see how adding BR(or some other death-match game mode) can be anything but good for the game.
Because BR is a Fad, just like Hero Shooters (Overwatch) just like survival (DayZ) before that, just like BlockBuilding (Minecraft) before that, just like Clickers (Farville) before that, just like Music (Guitar Hero) before that... And so on...
Where are the clones of the Fad games now?
Mostly dead...
If you shape your game to fit the Fad. Your game dies when the Fad dies. (I give BR 2, maybe 3 more years before another genre becomes popular)
Fortnite and PUBG might survive after the BR Fad dies, but their clones won't.
So if sea of thieves adopts and invests resources into the BR and neglect the core game, sure it might make some good capital in the short run, but what happens when BR isn't cool anymore? You are left with a disaster of a core game.
The best example is H1Z1.
Did you know that H1Z1 was supposed to be a zombie survival? Then they added BR mode. They neglected the survival and focused on the moneymaker. Look at it now. They shut down their survival team and only focus on the BR... And when the BR coolness passes and pepper move on... You have no core game to fall back on.That is why you should not modify your game to cater to the Fad of the month.
@personalc0ffee Not the case. If it was the case then Epic wouldn't have done it for fortnite. BR saved fornite, it could potentially save SoT(or greatly benefit it). The reason why BR modes are so popular now is because they take very little dev resources since all the assets are already in the game. It will also bring in new players(something this game desperately needs) rather than stressing the current player base. Even if players moved to BR why is that a bad thing? they are still playing SoT and supporting the game. Would it be better if they quit entirely? because that's what a lot of players did and are still doing. Fornite's "save the world mode" is booming now because of BR. I know quite a few people who love "save the world" now that they have improved it with the money they got from BR. My brother players quit playing "save the world" and now only plays "BR", but he was just gonna quit fornite entirely if they didn't make BR. "BR" got him to come back to fornite and it got him to stay.
@squaz05 said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
@betsill said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
@personalc0ffee Why? I can't see how adding BR(or some other death-match game mode) can be anything but good for the game.
Because BR is a Fad, just like Hero Shooters (Overwatch) just like survival (DayZ) before that, just like BlockBuilding (Minecraft) before that, just like Clickers (Farville) before that, just like Music (Guitar Hero) before that... And so on...
Not sure how that's relevant. Everything is a fad until it's not..
Where are the clones of the Fad games now?
Uh... Overwatch and paladins are doing just fine(hero shooters), Subnautica is doing great(survival), Idk about mincraft clones but minecraft is still doing great, no clue what a "clicker" is, but sure, music games are mostly dead. Still don't see how this matters. Game genres work until they don't anymore... Notice how you didn't classify FPS games, MOBAs, RPGs, and so on... as fads?
If you shape your game to fit the Fad.
BR specifically doesn't require any shaping. That's why it's so popular.
Your game dies when the Fad dies.
Only if your game dies lol
(I give BR 2, maybe 3 more years before another genre becomes popular)
Good to know. Which stocks should I invest in?
Fortnite and PUBG might survive after the BR Fad dies, but their clones won't.
Yet to be seen, but I hear the COD BR is amazing.
So if sea of thieves adopts and invests resources into the BR and neglect the core game, sure it might make some good capital in the short run, but what happens when BR isn't cool anymore? You are left with a disaster of a core game.
Again, BR takes very little resources. That's why it's so popular. If it stops being profitable then you pull the plug.
The best example is H1Z1.
Did you know that H1Z1 was supposed to be a zombie survival? Then they added BR mode. They neglected the survival and focused on the moneymaker. Look at it now. They shut down their survival team and only focus on the BR... And when the BR coolness passes and pepper move on... You have no core game to fall back on.Idk about H1Z1 but sounds like the key word is "neglected".
That is why you should not modify your game to cater to the Fad of the month.
Too bad Epic didn't listen to you lol
@personalc0ffee said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
@betsill said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
SoT does not need saving and it certainly doesn't need to join the long list of Battle Royal games and do things just because it is a popular thing to do now.
It might not need saving yet, but it's not in good shape, and just to be clear I don't think that SoT needs a battle royal mode specifically. I do think that a separate PVP mode(TDM, capture the flag, BR, etc) would be a great addition.
In this industry you do not get anywhere by following the achievements of others. You need to forge your own path.
Fortnite, League of legends, Overwatch, Nioh, Tomb Raider, etc etc. would very much beg to differ.
SoT is good in its own way and Rare needs to focus on that.
I agree, but it's also very lacking. A PvP mode could provide the game with endlessly replayable content, for new and old players alike that are tired of doing the same old fetch quests over and over.
@betsill you contradict your own statements in your own post....
“It would cost virtually no resources to implement”
That is wrong on so many levels
- extra server resources required
- rebalancing weaponry for specific pvp purposes
- increase server ship capacity
- put in a ranking system
... and probably many many more things
Fortnite battle royale was created as a reaction to PUBG but it is not what fortnite was set out to be initially, however you hear nobody talking about the base (original) game that was later basterdized to the new Fortnite Battle Royale as a ftp game.
Everybody just hopped on the fortnite bandwagon because Epic Games has the means to put it out there free of charge (and added microtransactions to get money out of it)
If you want a Battle Royale game go to Fortnite or PUBG or any of the other copy cats, truth is it takes resources to change the base game to a BR game and it would take resources away from the one we currently have.
Dont get me wrong i love PVP in SOT but i would never even go near something like fortnite or any other BR game even if it is based of SOT.
@personalc0ffee said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
It is perfectly fine as it is. A nice, sandbox game with no clear direction where players can play how they want at any given moment. Remember it is a shared world, it is not a PvP game and it is not a PvE game.
It most certainly is not. It is plain delusional to say otherwise. You can say you like it how it is personally, but SoT reviews are terrible, and this game is hemorrhaging players. SoT lost half it's players in the first month. Someone did a little math and found that based on achievement(like number of players that turned in at least one piece of loot) and other data the estimated "active" player numbers are less than 500K I can't remember exactly. It's also not a sandbox game.
Those are not clone games. They simple expanded upon the genre's they copied from and added their own flair. They brought their own thing to the table. Very closely compare PubG, the original BR game, to Fortnite and see the differences in not only gameplay but aesthetics and mechanics. Same with Overwatch and TF2.
Then SoT battle royal wouldn't be a clone either... I don't know of any BR games where you are 1. a pirate or 2. battling at sea on ships.
@betsill fortnite BR didnt save fortnite it killed fortnite.
Yes Fortnite BR is thriving but he core game is all but forgotten, same for H1Z1
SOT doesnt need saving enough people are playing it, could always do with more but a BR mode is not going to be it because even if that mode gained traction the main game would be forgotten same as with fortnite and the others....
And yes it takes resources and it takes maintenance, EPIC just jumped on the bandwagon of PUBG and due to them making it free to play gained alot of traction which they monitized with microtransactions.
Also SoT isn’t necesarrily “hemorrhaging” players, has it lost many ? Yes but the stats like achievements by @DutchYankee i believe are also skewed due to the fact of players getting two weeks free game pass trial and not extending it
@callmebackdraft said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
@betsill fortnite BR didnt save fortnite it killed fortnite.
Yes Fortnite BR is thriving but he core game is all but forgotten, same for H1Z1
Totally false. I have 4 friends that actively play "save the world" and have since launch that love the game now. They are all glad Epic made BR because the extra resources from it have been poured into StW and made it into a much better game then it used to be.
@personalc0ffee said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
Very closely compare PubG, the original BR game,
All Battle Royale games descend from DayZ Survivor Games (which was inspired by the Japanese film Battle Royale) for the original DayZ mod in Arma 2. DayZ Battle Royale was then created by Brenden Greene (aka PLAYERUNKNOWN) who then went on to create Arma 3 Battle Royale, became a consultant on H1Z1's King of the Kill (BR) mode and finally ended up heading up his own game - PUBG.
Just to say i dont like BR games in general, but i play or approach every session of SoT like a BR match.
I spawn and i'm need to survive, collecting supplies and try to get more gold to buy stuff or just because it's fun going for chests or kill skeleltons, deliver some goods etc...
What is different is: i'm not forced to go to the middle, i can prolong my lifespan ir i can go risk it.
It's my free decision.
Going for pvp is risky, but also fun.
I think spitting into several gamemodes end up in splitting the community.
I dont think that's good.
Game is how it is like it or not.
Nobody ask for TDM in Fortnite or PUBG i guess because it's BR and thats it.
And SoT is a PvEvP Sandbox Arena type game.@artanissss There are plenty of BR games out there..I am tired of seeing them..and lets be honest..Fortnite started as a PVE game and then they released a BR now no one even knows about that version of the game LOL. I don't want that to happen to this game..so if people are here for a BR they are in the wrong place because it won't happen.
@personalc0ffee DayZ has made a lot of progress recently now that they are finally switching all of their modules over to their new engine. They've also released the server files and people have been starting to make mods for it again. It still has a ways to go but its promising.
@lightning-yata said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
- More money = more investment = More personal = better commercials*.
FTFY
@betsill that might be but just search for fortnite all you see and hear about is the BR mode, and as stated that mode has gartered alot of following, i also am not saying nobody is playing the base game its just that the base game is but a shell of what was envisioned and BR is the one that gets all of the attention from the devs and everything that can float over to StW will do as its no extra cost to them
Now i have to disagree with this for multiple reasons.
firstly Sea of thieves isn't the type of game where this would be possible, from the way it would be implemented to how resources would work it has just no point in happening. Secondly, the game is already technically a battle royale with just lives not being a factor, the only reason it isn't classed this is because the community has the choice to attack or just carry on with their voyages. Finally, the battle royale era is coming to a close fornite's community is dying black ops 4 is coming with a rushed version of the trend and all together the battle royale genre is dead. So rare please dont do this and neither should it be suggested again.
I have an amazing Idea for this Mode, but it’s a Ship Battle Royale, when somebody is killing you you’re respawning on your Ship after 30 Seconds, but when your Ship is gone it’s over for you(but when you’re still alive when your ship is sunk you can play until the end of game or someone killed you)!
So let me explain: Choose first the Seperate Ship Battle Royale Mode, then choose a Ship(you can inv friends or you do it with randoms)!
When the Game starts, every from the 6!? Ships is on its own little Sea Post, you have 1 Minute to Stock Up before the Game begins, then on the Map is a bigger Island in the center and on this Island is One Treasure Chest with X marks the Spot Map(in every match the Chest is in an other Spot on this Island)!
So easy explained, you have to go to this Island, dig up the Chest and bring it to the only Outpost, then the Match ends! But the only problem there are 5 other Ships with the same treasure Map and trying the same, you’re respawning all the time your Ship not, it is an amazing funny inbetween Adventures, Game Mode, what you’re thinking?
And it’s not the Battle Royale everybody here complaining it’s something new and different from the Mainstream!
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@stundorn said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
Just to say i dont like BR games in general, but i play or approach every session of SoT like a BR match.
I spawn and i'm need to survive, collecting supplies and try to get more gold to buy stuff or just because it's fun going for chests or kill skeleltons, deliver some goods etc...
What is different is: i'm not forced to go to the middle, i can prolong my lifespan ir i can go risk it.
It's my free decision.
Going for pvp is risky, but also fun.
I think spitting into several gamemodes end up in splitting the community.
I dont think that's good.
Game is how it is like it or not.
Nobody ask for TDM in Fortnite or PUBG i guess because it's BR and thats it.
And SoT is a PvEvP Sandbox Arena type game.Um your ignorant many people have asked for team death match in those games AND pubg even introduced a limited time mode team death match you ignorant fool
You are in violation of the pirate code.
Remember we must be respectful to our fellow pirates.
Not worth my attention, I wouldn't even report it, as he is punished a lot by himself :-)
Once i got a message on Xbox from someone I know the name from the forum here, but never argued about his posts or anything. He wrote me that allways he looks up some "fanboys" stats, he allways found they are terrible noobs :-)
Also not worth any of my attention, it need to be hard to feel the need to look up someone's stats because of his opinion posted , although completely unrelated to his own posts or opinion and to then feel the need to make a rude comment.
Well these people have all my pity, as they seem not having fun, but instead go for research to rant about something.
And again here's my message from a wise man.
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@stundorn said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
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@notaweedrelated said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
@stundorn said in Rare be the first Pirate Battle Royale game!:
Just to say i dont like BR games in general, but i play or approach every session of SoT like a BR match.
I spawn and i'm need to survive, collecting supplies and try to get more gold to buy stuff or just because it's fun going for chests or kill skeleltons, deliver some goods etc...
What is different is: i'm not forced to go to the middle, i can prolong my lifespan ir i can go risk it.
It's my free decision.
Going for pvp is risky, but also fun.
I think spitting into several gamemodes end up in splitting the community.
I dont think that's good.
Game is how it is like it or not.
Nobody ask for TDM in Fortnite or PUBG i guess because it's BR and thats it.
And SoT is a PvEvP Sandbox Arena type game.Um your ignorant many people have asked for team death match in those games AND pubg even introduced a limited time mode team death match you ignorant fool
You are in violation of the pirate code.
Remember we must be respectful to our fellow pirates.
Once i got a message on Xbox from someone I know the name from the forum here, but never argued about his posts or anything. He wrote me that allways he looks up some "fanboys" stats, he allways found they are terrible noobs :-)
You too? I'm pretty sure I got the same message, from that same user.
Haha lol, nothing to add :-)
Edit : well in case of i'm a terrible noob, but having tons of fun playing, it's not that bad to be one :-)
If i have to choose between beeing a pro, but having no or barely any fun, but constantly complaining and predicting the world's end, ichchoose beeing a noob having fun.
Others may see this the other way round.
Everybody is responsible for his decision.@artanissss Your claim that making a Sea of Thieves a battle royal game would cause it’s popularity to explode is false. Since you clearly got the idea that a battle royal game would be popular from Fortnite’s popularity, let me explain. First and foremost, Fortnite is free and Sea of Thieves is $60 (Price varies based on the currency you use.) Fortnite is popular because it’s FREE. If Sea of Thieves gained a battle royal mode, it would not gain much popularity because it costs $60. There’s also the fact that there are already big battle royal games, such as Fortnite, on the market. Why would someone go from playing the most popular game currently, to a Sea of Thieves battle royal mode? They wouldn’t, this is yet another reason why it wouldn’t gain any popularity. Then there’s graphics, Fortnite is has EXTREMELY light graphics (I have seen drawings made by two year olds that are better then the game’s graphics.) Where as Sea of Thieves has top of the line graphics. This makes Fortnite more accessible to people with lower end PCs and consoles, whereas Sea of Thieves is typically played by someone on a higher end pc and/or a console device. Now then, the last factor I am going to mention is popularity, because it is widely played, Fortnite has become a social trend. What I mean by that is, it’s the equivalent of a social media game. EVERYONE (A massive exaggeration I know.) has Fortnite, and popular people/celebrities play it. This causes people to get and play Fortnite because they want to be included. That’s the power of popular culture, if you need another example, look no further than social trends like the dab. Sea of Thieves lacks the social trend status that Fortnite has.
To make a long story short, your claim is bogus. There are a lot of factors that make the current battle royal titans (Such as Fortnite, which you probably thought about when claiming it would make the game popular. Despite the fact that you said “not like Fortnite” in your post) and Sea of Thieves lacks most of these factors. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad game, it just means that trying to make a battle royal mode would be a bad move on Rare’s part. Like any social trend, the battle royal scene will die down eventually, and when it does the battle royal mode you are proposing will be useless.
P.S. (If you want another example of a game becoming a social trend take a look at Pokémon Go, it was the hottest thing a while back and now it’s rarely covered by any form of media.)
(Please Note: I don’t play Fortnite, I never have and I never will. I find the game to be quite bland and repetitive.)
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